- Jul 26, 2009
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Oh I am thank you.
I don't know, that's a pretty limited list of values, behaviors and traditions to distinguish themselves from the hearing. It's basically all about being deaf, and rights of the deaf. I am still unconvinced. Not that it matters what I think, I'm just one person in billions.
Why do the deaf think taking turns in a conversation is a deaf social norm?? They don't think hearing people do that?
How come they call it italoamericani in Italian?
What's interesting is that they have a full wikipedia page dedicated to it.. Italoamericani - Wikipedia
Edit: I found the English version here: Italian American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Personally, I think of myself as an American-Italian not an Italian American. I think the country of origin should be first, but that's just my opinion.
Ambrosia, the definition of any culture is what brings them together because that is what they share. Italian culture shares an affinity for Italy; Drug culture shares affinity for drugs; Grunge Metal culture shares an affinity for that type of music this binds those cultures. Yes, other cultures do the same things, but not for the same affinity and that is the difference. Young people are part of youth culture and, like it or not, we cannot be a part of it anymore, but we have experienced it.
Wikipedia can be pretty unreliable sometimes. It is somewhat narrow one-minded sometimes. No perspectives from all sides.
...I often criticize the motivations behind wikipedia information insertions, they can be sometimes contradictory. I mean, do scholars or graduates actually insert their information in there? I don't quite think so.
Seems we lose our bodies at a very specific point of time in our lives. Our death.
A theological/philosophical discussion what "that means".
ambrosia said:Why do the deaf think taking turns in a conversation is a deaf social norm?? They don't think hearing people do that?
This is sort of like me, and I do use earplugs a lot, but I can still hear things through the earplugs. I prefer to use earplugs when I sign because then I could just focus on the visual stuff and ignore sounds better. I have a friend who's also hypersensitive to sound and tries to block out all noise because things like cars screeching are too disturbing and overwhelming for her. However, I've never told anyone that I'm deaf. That's just absurd... I can hear and pretending that I can't would just likely make me look very, very stupid and potentially get me into an awkward situation. I do really want to be able to participate in Deaf culture freely, though, and be accepted at least by some Deaf people. I was actually shocked to find out how similar the Deaf cultural ways of communicating are to my own.The reason that particular deaf wannabe is like that seems to be related to her autistic spectrum condition and the associated oversensitivity to sound, which could be a reason for her saying that the earplugs she's using aren't enough. I wonder if there could be other reasons those people are wannabes, including creepy ones.:Ohno:
This post just kind of made my day, a little. I was thinking something along the same lines.How do you define a "wanna be"?
Are you willing to draw a line based on ASL knowledge or Deaf culture?
Do you want to define people by their audiograms?
I know that you wouldn't want any of the above "tests" of deafness.
The people who have perfect hearing and "want to be" deaf and pretend to be deaf definitely have problems but
I can see things like this devolving into "deafer than thou" and possibly making someone who needs a community to feel unwelcome.
OK, now we're diverting from sociology and heading straight for anthropology. The disconnect, here, is that there are several different meanings to the word "culture" and that many people don't consider all or more than one to be true. Yes, in some definitions of "culture," the idea of "Deaf Culture" does not fit the definition. As assessed in this post, however, "Deaf Culture" as both ideology and term fits perfect within the working definition. So, yes, by all means, Deaf Culture exists. That said, as with any culture, certain subsects believe in different boundaries for the culture itself. Now poses the question: in order for a culture to exist, could it not be said that having a culture in the first place subjectively depends on there being outsiders (i.e. wannabes, hearies)? Sure, it's creepy to have wannabes,--I was going to add onto that further, but no, it's just creepy to have wannabes. ANYWAY, still a valid question to ask.Is that how you define a culture? I thought a definition of a culture would include those components of; The body of learned beliefs, tradition, principles and guides for behavior that are commonly shared among members of a particular group. Culture serves as a road map for both perceiving and interacting with the world.
So, therefore, Yes, Deaf Culture does exists.
Nope, it's very simlair. Thing is, those deaf wannabes tend to REALLY be into the cultural bit of deafness. It's an extreme version of those teenybopper girls who come here and are all "OMG ASL so much fun and SO cool!"
Italian...100% Italian....but you'd have to know them to get this...no Italian American says they're Italian American...we say "Italian" or "Sicilian." Although no self respecting Sicilian ever refers to him/herself as "Italian."