What about that tribe that recently came back to power after 2,000 years in Israel and this was foretold in the KJV Holy Bible. Was it the tribe of the Saucceduees ? that were welcomed into the Israeli Knesset which confirmed Biblical Prophecy
XBGMER said:YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE NATURAL JEWS. Once Jesus born to jewish nation, He was jew, even he is christ!
GENTILES ARE NOT CHRISTIANS NOR JEWISHS..Therefore, you are not CHIRSTIAN because you are not jew. But you want to be part of christ.. yawn.. I advice you dont preach about christ to the world for rest of your life!
THANK YOU!
Heath said:What about that tribe that recently came back to power after 2,000 years in Israel and this was foretold in the KJV Holy Bible. Was it the tribe of the Saucceduees ? that were welcomed into the Israeli Knesset which confirmed Biblical Prophecy
XBGMER said:YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE NATURAL JEWS. Once Jesus born to jewish nation, He was jew, even he is christ!
Teresh said:The Sadducees disappeared along with the Temple, or are you talking about something else?
The Sadducees were in the Israeli Knesset about 2 or 3 years ago being welcomed. I saw that in the Israeli newspapers plus Biblical Prophecy website.
Christianity doesn't require its followers to be Jews.
Heath said:The Sadducees were in the Israeli Knesset about 2 or 3 years ago being welcomed. I saw that in the Israeli newspapers plus Biblical Prophecy website.
Heath said:The disciples were naturally jewish themselves and in Romans 10:1 it says to witness to jews first then to the gentiles. God told Jesus Christ to tell the jews it is time that salvation and the Gospel of Jesus Christ be preached throughout the world unto the end.
Teresh said:Christianity isn't the only religion that believes all men are damned from birth, but it's the only major one that does. You want to convert people because you have an internal hate of humanity--or, rather, you believe all humanity is bad from birth and that Jesus is the only way to save them. Sadly, you are mistaken, but that's a purely theological issue.
Humans are saved through human action, not faith in Jesus. But you're a Christian, so you'll never understand that concept.
Louis Lapides is a Christian ordained by the Evangelical Free Church of America. If he is a Jew at all, he knows little or nothing about Judaism. He does not have a rabbinical ordination, so I have serious doubts he knows anything at all about Jewish law or the contents of the Talmud.
Cite people who actually know what they're talking about. Cite qualified rabbinic authorities, not a missionary to Jews who is willing to pretend to be qualified and knowledgable in order to deceive Jews into converting.
The Rabbis are teachers. Are you going to make an argument that the American school system controls the country because they teach children how to read and write? If you're willing to make that argument, then and only then can you say that the Rabbis control Judaism.
That is not the general consensus. It's a misconception held by some, but it is not the consensus.
http://www.edwardvictor.com/GeneralFrame2main.htm said:The consensus of opinion, however, is that the synagogue originated during the Babylonian Exile, beginning in 586 B.C., when deprived of the Temple, Jews would meet from time to time to read the scriptures. Whatever the exact origin, it is during the first century C.E., particularly after the destruction of of the Second Temple by the Romans in 70 A.D. that the synagogue emerges as a well established institution and the center of the social and religious life of the people.
That's not true. No one is currently trying to rebuild the temple and the opinion among the majority of the world's Jews is that the Temple should not and should never be rebuilt. Only a few elements of the Ultra-Orthodox are trying to get it rebuilt and they're as far off the fringe as one can get.
Right--They didn't exist until AFTER the Temple was destroyed, not before, which is what I said the first time.
The Septuagint is a translation of the Tanakh from Hebrew to Greek. You place fault on the Jews with the Septuagint because you don't want to question your beliefs. But that's the Christian way, so you're giving the right answer in the scope of your religion.
That doesn't mean they *ate* the blood.
No, that's not the case either. You really don't understand kashrut as well as you'd like to think you do. Kashrut doesn't represent sin. Kashrut represents purity.
Then you have pastors, ministers, etc. which are the same thing.
I'm not familiar with the Blue Letter Bible. What language is it in?
I didn't say that Jews write objectively either--Actually, I said exactly the opposite. Stop putting words in my mouth.
It's very easy to deny it--Judaism does not have the concept of original sin. That concept was invented by Christians. Humans can and do sin in their lives, but they start with a clean slate and a capability to do both good and evil. How one is judged by God is determined by how one acts, not what one believes in.
sculleywr said:Sorry, but that is not according to the Old Testament:
Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
We cannot work our way to heaven. Humans cannot clean themselves up. You try wiping a table down with a filthy rag and what happens? We are the only group that believes that our God loved us enough to come down from heaven itself and die for our sins.
sculleywr said:As a child, he grew up in a Jewish home, and started his higher education as a rabbi to support his schooling in a Jewish school, learning how to refute Christianity. It wasn't until he was given a Bible by a Christian and actually read it all the way through that he recognized what the truth THAT is when he left his home and joined a Christian college to get his education.
sculleywr said:Secondly, if you read Case for Christ's chapter on the fingerprint evidence, you will see just how educated he is in the Jewish ways. He is considered by even secular sources to be among the most knowledgeable people of the Old Testament prophecies.
sculleywr said:There are over forty prophecies concerning the coming Messiah, and Jesus fulfilled every one.
sculleywr said:But, the odds of just one person fulfilling even five of these prophesies is less than one chance in one hundred million billion--a number millions of times greater than the number of all people who have ever lived on earth.
sculleywr said:No, but when the teachers filter what they are giving the students, they control the learning curve, and thus, they control what is taught.
sculleywr said:They will never tell their students that the current Hebrew copies of the Torah and Tanakh are based on the Greek Septaguint,
sculleywr said:because then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on to say that the virgin in the prophecy was mistranslated, because the Greek word literally means virgin, while the current translation in Hebrew has the word betulah, which means young woman.
sculleywr said:The Old Testament was originazlly in two languages, then it was changed to the language of the day, which was Greek, and now the meaning is lost in translation for some of the prophecies. Thank God that the KJV Bible is based on the Septaguint and not the current Hebrew words.
sculleywr said:According to the Jewish sources, the people met on Market days to engage in their worship while in Babylonian captivity. There were Jews that wondered throughout the Roman empire, they all met together in synagogues except for passover, when they would all meet in the temple. How do you expect them to have met for daily worship with all the people who A.)didn't even return to Israel, and B.) lived outside of the Middle East?
sculleywr said:They already have the blueprints drawn up, Fulfilling a prophecy in Revelations 11.
sculleywr said:Building the Temple is still an order from the LORD, since "he shall build a house for My name, and he shall be My son, and I will be his Father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel FOREVER." (Chron 22:9-10 )
sculleywr said:The Israeli rabbinical council involved with re-establishing the Sanhedrin, is calling upon all groups involved in Temple Mount research to prepare detailed architectural plans for the reconstruction of the Jewish Holy Temple.
sculleywr said:The move followed the election earlier this week of Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz as temporary president of a group aspiring to become Judaism's highest-ranking legal-religious tribunal.
sculleywr said:And it is what the current translations are based on. In fact, Greek Septaguints are the only ancient documents we have of the Old Testament.
sculleywr said:And because the disciples drank the unfermented wine, does it mean they ate the blood? It is actually a symbol that Jesus was giving his own blood as the sacrificial Lamb for all mankind.
sculleywr said:And if it is UN-kashrut, then it is UN-pure. Kashrut is the Hebrew word that we get Kosher from. Don't play word games with me. I ain't in the mood.
sculleywr said:No they aren't. Pastors are simply leaders. We don't confess in front of them or ask them to pray for our sins. They are simply our version of the rabbi. Our High Priest is Jesus Christ Himself.
sculleywr said:Then why do you say that JFJ is an objective source.
sculleywr said:Our righteousnesses are as filthy rags. How do you expect our good acts to look better than our bad ones if that is true?
Teresh said:Very strange. The Hebrew text is completely different. That said, Isaiah is, of all of the Tanakh, the worst translation of any book in the Septuagint. Blame Ptolemy II for hiring poorly educated men for that book, I suppose. (If you didn't know, the sages were only involved in translating the Torah.)
In Hebrew:
.ו וְאֵין-קוֹרֵא בְשִׁמְךָ, מִתְעוֹרֵר לְהַחֲזִיק בָּךְ: כִּי-הִסְתַּרְתָּ פָנֶיךָ מִמֶּנּוּ, וַתְּמוּגֵנוּ בְּיַד-עֲוֹנֵנוּ
And English (JPS):
6 And there is none that calleth upon Thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of Thee; for Thou hast hid Thy face from us, and hast consumed us by means of our iniquities.
Source? His own congregation's website says that he did his undergrad work at Dallas Baptist University and his graduate work at Talbot Theological Seminary. It doesn't say anything about him attending any Jewish schools at all, let alone a yeshiva. Moreover, logic holds that if he actually did study at a yeshiva, it would be stated somewhere.
Note: "Hebrew school" teaches one about as much about Judaism as "Sunday school" teaches one about Christianity. It'll impart the basics, but it's not a seminary by any means.
"Secular" sources? We're talking about *religion* here. There is no such thing as a "secular" source on religious issues, nor is there a such thing as a "secular" expert. Cite some Jewish sources.
List them. If he fulfilled "every one", it shouldn't be that hard to actually present that idea, no?
That number comes from where? It certainly seems as though they just pulled that number out of thin air in order to try to make a convincing argument.
Fortunately, Judaism doesn't do this, though since you don't understand Judaism, you obviously wouldn't know that. Ever read any of the Talmud?
If they told them that the Hebrew was based on the Septuagint, they would be lying.
So you accuse the Rabbis of mistranslating and then lying about it. Make your case here, as that's certainly not the most logical way of looking at it.
The original text was in Hebrew. The Septuagint was made because Ptolemy II wanted a copy of the Torah for the library in Alexandria. It also benefited the Alexandrian Jews, who did not know Hebrew. The Jews in Israel never adopted Greek as their language.
wikipedia said:Hellenistic Greek (also known as Koine Greek): The fusion of various ancient Greek dialects with Attic (the dialect of Athens) resulted in the creation of the first common Greek dialect, which gradually turned into one of the world's first international languages.
Weekly (let alone daily) worship was not something that was done at the time. The siddur is a Rabbinical invention. Biblical Judaism's method of atoning for sins was patriotism to one's nation and sacrifices to God in the Temple. The destruction of the Temple led to the creation of Jewish prayer as we know it today.
http://scheinerman.net/judaism/synagogue/history.html said:In the meantime, to preserve their traditions, it seems that the Jews in Babylonia gathered together on market days (Mondays and Thursdays) and participated in some combination of worship and study. Some scholars believe that these gatherings gave rise to worship services, and that prayers were composed for use at this time which were eventually brought back to the Land of Israel when some of the Exiles returned, and incorporated into the cult worship when the Second Temple was eventually built.
"They" being a group that has no respect or authority over anyone.
The rebuilding of the Temple is the task of the Messiah.
The Sanhedrin doesn't exist anymore. Anyone can claim to be the Sanhedrin, but if they don't have any legitimacy among the Jewish people, they're not, regardless of their claims.
Fortunately, we still have the original text in Hebrew too.
I realise that, the point here is that you're trying to convince me and others that blood, literal blood, is kosher, something that is just not true.
Now, one could make the argument that the wine used for the Eucharist in Christianity is treifah because it is drank to an idol (Jesus), but that's not an argument I have the energy to make at the moment nor so I see the point in doing so.
The New Covenant has been written. The New Testament is the fulfillment of that.
No, Kashrut is Jewish dietary laws. it comes from the Hebrew root כ.ש.ר. It has the same root as the word "kasher", which has been anglised into the word "kosher", but they are not the same thing.
Kashrut is a noun, a set of laws governing what Jews may or may not eat. Kasher (in English, "kosher") is an adjective describing anything prepared in accordance with the laws of kashrut. That which is not kosher is called "treifah".
There are many things that Jews, as a matter of living, will come into contact with regularly that they may not eat, blood being among them. It's not as if a Jew won't bleed if he or she is cut by a knife. Additionally, while the dish soap in my kitchen is kosher, I would not even consider consuming it. The law does not say that contact with blood is inherently bad, just that it may not be consumed.
I'm not playing word games with you, you simply don't know what you're talking about.
I didn't. You just didn't read my post.
I rely on the oldest. The oldest is the closest to the original text, especially considering that translating the Dead Sea Scrolls, secular linguists find that the translation of the OT in there is closest to the KJV. Those are, by popular consensus, the oldest copies. And since they predate the oldest Hebrew documents, they preclude them from the translations as a group of papers that were "caught up in myth and legend."Too bad for you relying on a bad translation rather than the original text.
Teresh said:Oh, of course, I'm just expressing that from my vantage point it makes more sense without that idea.
The Ancient Jews didn't know anything about genetics... The reasons some of these laws developed were practicality and others because it was what everyone else is doing. Everyone else had Kings descending patrilinearly. The Jews emulated that. The reason they had the status of a Jew conveyed matrilinearly was because it could be hard to tell who the father of a child was, but it would always be easy to tell who was the mother.
I'm not sure about that. Where in Christian Scripture does that occur?
Baptism isn't a part of Jewish conversion... I'm not sure (and it may be that no one knows) what the conversion procedure was like when the Temple still stood, but baptism is a Christian idea. That said, modern conversion by the Talmud requires immersion in a mikvah, but the immersion itself doesn't make the person a Jew in any legal sense (that's conveyed by a beth din, a court of 3 learned Jews, usually rabbis), but rather in a spiritual sense.
I'll go whatever direction you want to go here. I enjoy the discussion for the sake of the discussion, I'm not trying to drive a point home or get you to agree with me so much as explore the different possibilities.
Midrash (plural: midrashim) is a commentary on the Torah, the rest of the Tanakh, the Talmud, on the Shulkhan Arukh, on the Mishneh Torah, or on other midrash. Many great rabbis throughout history have written midrash. Midrash are generally not to be taken literally, but they can help when interpreting the text of the book. For example, by the way the way the creation story with Adam and Eve is written, Rashi's commentary suggests that Cain and Abel both had twin sisters. It's not as if they're to be taken literally, indeed, in many cases midrash conflict with other midrash on the same point. Still, that's fine because everyone is entitled to their opinion and it is worthwhile to learn the opinions of another person even if you don't agree with them.
I rely on the oldest. The oldest is the closest to the original text, especially considering that translating the Dead Sea Scrolls, secular linguists find that the translation of the OT in there is closest to the KJV.
sculleywr said:Based on something that is younger than the septaguint. You must remember, the Hebrew versions were burnt or buried when they faded. This is the reason for the extremely low number of copies. The oldest copies we have are in Greek. Translated from the Septaguint, the KJV is the most accurate. Shoot, the NIV is more accurate than the JPS. We have enough copies, especially since finding the copies in the Dead Sea Scrolls, to be able to say that you are incorrectly translating that.
sculleywr said:No, he went to a school for rabbis.
sculleywr said:The reason his own church says that is to impart more credibility to the pastor.
sculleywr said:I ain't going to cite someone who has an obvious bias against Christianity.
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be the offspring (descendant) of the woman (Eve) Genesis 3:15 Galatians 4:4
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be a descendant of Abraham, through whom everyone on earth will be blessed Genesis 12:3; 18:18 Acts 3:25,26
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be a descendant of Judah Genesis 49:10 Matthew 1:2 and Luke 3:33
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be a prophet like Moses Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Acts 3:22,23
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be the Son of God Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:17; Mark 1:11; Luke 3:22
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be raised from the dead (resurrected) Psalm 16:10,11 and 49:15 Matthew 28:5-9; Mark 16:6; Luke 24:4-7; John 20:11-16; Acts 1:3 and 2:32
sculleywr said:The Messiah crucifixion experience Psalm 22 (contains 11 prophecies—not all listed here) Matthew 27:34-50 and John 19:17-30
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be pierced through hands and feet Psalm 22:16 Luke 23:33 and 24:36-39; John 19:18 and 20:19-20,24-27
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be a descendant of David Psalm 132:11 and Jeremiah 23:5,6; 33:15,16 Luke 1:32,33
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be a born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:18-25 and Luke 1:26-35
sculleywr said:The Messiah’s first spiritual work will be in Galilee Isaiah 9:1-7 Matthew 4:12-16
sculleywr said:The Messiah will make the blind see, the deaf hear, etc. Isaiah 35:5-6 Many places. Also see Matthew 11:3-6 and John 11:47
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be beaten, mocked, and spat upon Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67 and 27:26-31
sculleywr said:People will hear and not believe the “arm of the LORD” (Messiah) Isaiah 53:1 John 12:37,38
The Messiah will be rejected Isaiah 53:3 Matthew 27:20-25; Mark 15:8-14; Luke 23:18-23; John 19:14,15
The Messiah will be killed Isaiah 53:5-9 Matthew 27:50; Mark 15:37-39; Luke 23:46; John 19:30
The Messiah will be silent in front of his accusers Isaiah 53:7 Matthew 26:62,63 and 27:12-14
The Messiah will be buried with the rich Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:59,60; Mark 15:46; Luke 23:52,53; John 19:38-42
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be crucified with criminals Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38; Mark 15:27; Luke 23:32,33
sculleywr said:The Messiah is part of the new and everlasting covenant Isaiah 55:3-4 and Jeremiah 31:31-34 Matthew 26:28; Mark 14:24; Luke 22:20; Hebrews 8:6-13
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be our intercessor (intervene for us and plead on our behalf) Isaiah 59:16 Hebrews 9:15
sculleywr said:The Messiah has two missions Isaiah 61:1-3 (first mission ends at “. . . year of the LORD’s favor”) First mission: Luke 4:16-21; Second mission: to be fulfilled at the end of the world
The Messiah will come at a specific time Daniel 9:25-26 Galatians 4:4 and Ephesians 1:10
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be born in Bethlehem Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1 and Luke 2:4-7
sculleywr said:The Messiah will enter Jerusalem riding a donkey Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 21:1-11
sculleywr said:The Messiah will be sold for 30 pieces of silver Zechariah 11:12,13 Matthew 26:15 with Matthew 27:3-10
sculleywr said:The Messiah will forsaken by His disciples Zechariah 13:7 Matthew 26:31,56
sculleywr said:The Messiah will enter the Temple with authority Malachi 3:1 Matthew 21:12 and Luke 19:45
hottiedeafboi said:Teresh and Netrox, I know and its very obvious, even whom we believe and the fact of who is the Messiah and you been misquote those scripture what applied. As of obvious its not really christians that's tick you off, its all out of hate and don't tell me you don't. This timidating words need to stop. The more scully point it out the more angry you becomes. And no, no doubt we don't lack and no we are not so call " know at all", its what we learned. Each doesn't have the same level, and fortunate, sculley met, studied and etc. Even I learned passover from the guy who was raised jewish and studied sooo much and found who truly is a messiah. So that's why we believe who Jeus is, and not only that what each have seen and experience who Christ is.
sculleywr said:By easy mathematics. Multiplication of percentages. The more prophecies you have to fulfill, the lower your chance of fulfilling them. Each one had a different percentage. Many people can sell their loyalty, but what are the chances of getting the exact price on a person's head when the person won't exist for another 500 years?
sculleywr said:Actually, I have spoken to many Jews and I am surprised how little they know of the New Testament, though they know the Torah by heart. I find it fascinating to see them fascinated by the fact that Bethlehem was Jesus's birthplace, while they were taught that he was born in Nazereth. They are amazed by the accuracy of the geneology in Matthew and Luke, bringing Jesus directly into David's lineage. Their is so much that Jews are NOT taught That I have used succesfully.
sculleywr said:True, but if they told them that the translation was based on the Septaguint, they would not. This is because there were no Hebrew translations of the scriptures at the time. There was only the Greek Septaguint.
sculleywr said:No, I accuse them of not knowing this.
sculleywr said:Incorrect. How do you think Christianity was able to spread so readily to the Gentiles? Most of the missionaries who went were uneducated for the most part. The reason for this is because Alexander the Great, in conquering the majority of the known world, spread Greek throughout the regions.
sculleywr said:I base the fact that it was internationally used on the common concensus...
Not only did they meet weekly, they met TWICE weekly.
Wikipedia:Synagogue said:The destructions of Solomon's Temple, and later the Second Temple, and the dispersion of the Jews into the Jewish diaspora, threatened the nation's focus and unity. At the time of the Babylonian captivity the Men of the Great Assembly began the process of formalizing and standardizing Jewish services and prayers that would not depend on the functioning of the Temple in Jerusalem. Rabbi Yohanan ben Zakkai, one of the leaders at the end of the Second Temple era, promulgated the idea of creating individual houses of worship in whatever locale Jews found themselves. This contributed to the concept of "portable Judaism," which was part of what contributed to the saving of the Jewish people by maintaining a unique identity and way of worship, according to many historians. Thus, even now, whenever any group of ten men comes together, they form a minyan, and are eligible to conduct public prayer services, usually in a synagogue.
sculleywr said:They being the current sanhedrin.
sculleywr said:Little history quiz: Who were the sanhedrin?
Answer: The Jewish "Supreme Court." They were the ones who voted Jesus to death on the cross and then pressured the government of that day into making it lawful.
sculleywr said:Then why isn't "he" capitalized?
sculleywr said:They were voted in, by the citizens of Israel, as the current sanhedrin.
There's nothing on any of the results that states that the nascent Sanhedrin is legitimate. Again, why don't you READ YOUR OWN SOURCES.sculleywr said:
sculleywr said:Jesus is not an idol. Jesus fulfilled the prophecies, including the ressurection from the dead. Jesus is not only the Christ (Greek word for Messiah), He is God.
sculleywr said:I can walk right into the Holy of Holies and speak directly to my God.
sculleywr said:Salvation is not only for the Jews anymore, but for the Samaritans, and the Gentiles as well.
sculleywr said:And you are bringing irrelevant topics into the debate.
sculleywr said:You might want to learn never to use sarcasm in your posts, because it can be a waste of both of our time.
sculleywr said:I rely on the oldest. The oldest is the closest to the original text, especially considering that translating the Dead Sea Scrolls, secular linguists find that the translation of the OT in there is closest to the KJV. Those are, by popular consensus, the oldest copies. And since they predate the oldest Hebrew documents, they preclude them from the translations as a group of papers that were "caught up in myth and legend."
Rose Immortal said:That begs the question, though--if the ordinary descent of kings was a custom borrowed from foreigners (and I think I remember it was...isn't that why the Israelites bugged God until He gave them Saul?), then what is the legitimacy of such laws in God's view? I'm not trying to sound rude, but it wouldn't be the first time God circumvented such things as having the firstborn son be the one to be the most privileged. The establishment of the house of David certainly didn't go according to normal procedure in that regard. In other words, I'm not saying that what I allege wouldn't be unusual. But I do think it could well be possible.
Rose Immortal said:Interesting about the immersion custom; I had not realized that custom existed in Judaism. It does suggest that there's something significant about it, though.
Rose Immortal said:The first passage I have comes from the book of Matthew, and in it you have the baptism of Jesus. It really takes John the Baptist by surprise when Jesus presents Himself for baptism considering that John recognizes Jesus for who He is right off the bat.
Rose Immortal said:The second passage is another public instance of God confirming Jesus' status, plus some interesting questioning about how it squares up with the Law.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&chapter=12&version=31&context=chapter
The last passage is particularly interesting because it describes a third case of God announcing who Jesus is--in the presence of Moses and Elijah. Your court of three, perhaps?
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=47&chapter=17&version=31&context=chapter
Rose Immortal said:And I appreciate the fact that you're able to hold this discussion without getting personal as I've seen some do on BOTH sides.
Rose Immortal said:These seem kind of analogous to an Islamic "fatwa," which I've heard translated as a "finding" by an imam.
It seems like one would have to be very cautious in deciding which opinion to go with given that all of them are subject to flaws (human nature being what it is!). That's why I'm very hesitant about stuff like that.
hottiedeafboi said:Teresh and Netrox, I know and its very obvious, even whom we believe and the fact of who is the Messiah and you been misquote those scripture what applied.
hottiedeafboi said:As of obvious its not really christians that's tick you off, its all out of hate and don't tell me you don't.
hottiedeafboi said:The more scully point it out the more angry you becomes.
hottiedeafboi said:Teresh and I have totally different beliefs, she's Jewish (I think... maybe I am wrong)