Why are smoke detectors for deaf hard to come by?

Miss-Delectable

New Member
Joined
Apr 18, 2004
Messages
17,160
Reaction score
7
MySA.com: Metro | State

It's a lesson in civic involvement that just might save someone's life. Eyewitness Wants to Know if there's any help available to those who may be the most vulnerable during house fires.

Even if you don't know sign language it's easy to read the concern on their faces.

Deaf students at Stevenson Middle School are very aware that the three deaf people who died in this month's fire on Westshire might have lived had the house been equipped with smoke alarms designed for the hearing-impaired.

"We have nothing because it's so expensive,” Gabe Trujillo said. “We can't afford it. We have a low income."

"It's a really scary experience, with no alarm for deaf people," Terisha Springs said.

The students did a little classroom research to find out how much these strobe alarms cost.

The prices range from $149 to $300.

They found prices all right, but nowhere did they find anyone willing to donate the alarms.

Eyewitness Wants to Know why these life-saving alarms are so hard to come by.

District Fire Chief Carl Wedige says the fire department accepts fire alarm donations and installs them free for the elderly and disabled, but so far no one has ever donated a special strobe alarm.

"We count on corporate sponsors to assist us. We can certainly facilitate those where the need is there, provide those types of detectors provided we have corporate sponsorship," Wedige said.

As tragedies often do, this month's deadly house fire has raised a new sense of awareness that regular fire alarms serve no purpose if you can't hear them.

The students at Stevenson say they hope their concerns don't fall on deaf ears.
 
part of the reson for cost is because thay have to be hard wired, and thay are a bitch it ahlf to make. stobes are rather expensive and making them that small is well not an easy thing , I had to pay for 6 of them for a cafe' i helped run I got paid bak but thay cost alot.
 
I got the strobe smoke alarm for free. They provide it for the deaf, if the apartment manager is willing to do it.
 
We paid ours too but we need to add 3 or 4 more. So it cost money, yes. I don't remember how much we paid for them.

Yes I agreed the deaf devices are expensive compared to hearing devices are cheap! UGH!
 
My apartment manager also provided a free accessible smoke detector for me (with bed shaker and strobe light). Mine isn't hard wired, so I don't understand the reason for the extremely high cost. :(
 
Makes me wonder if the companies who make them put a high price on the devices knowing that there is a need for them? Dirty business perhaps?
 
I wonder if the high prices are due to the smaller market (for adaptive smoke detectors vs. standard smoke detectors). In the blindness community many items are very expensive (for example, $700 for a screen reader or $5,000 for a Braille display) because of the extremely small market. I'm sure the same is true for the deaf and hard of hearing. Then again, as long as companies can get away with charging high prices (because consumers pay these prices -- they really have no choice), I guess it's also a matter of (unfair) business practices.
 
My apt. did provide us fire alarm with powerful flash light.

As for the prices, it may be expensive due too low demands to sell. If it receives high demand, its price would be reduced.
 
If you go to any department stores , you may find one with a flash on it for only 39.99 like I did, it's a whole lot better than spending more than hundred bucks....:shrugs:
 
If you go to any department stores , you may find one with a flash on it for only 39.99 like I did, it's a whole lot better than spending more than hundred bucks....:shrugs:

That kind of brand.. flash alarm. isnt working for me and my man.. and most deafies too because strobes are good for when we are sleeping.. that flash alarm do not work.. if it flashes when you are on the back.. but strobe.. is real strong..flash..
 
Smoke detector push aims to avert deaths

Some good may come out of the tragic story about the fire that killed a deaf grandmother and two children.

Smoke detector push aims to avert deaths
Web Posted: 12/19/2006 12:19 AM CST

Vianna Davila
Express-News

In recent weeks nine people have died in fires in homes that were not equipped with smoke detectors. The tragedies — which claimed the lives of former state Sen. Frank Madla, a deaf grandmother and two children, among others — have spurred San Antonians to action.

Hundreds of people turned to local fire departments for information on obtaining and installing detectors. Some couldn't afford them on their own, and others are asking for installation help.

Local attorney Wayne Wright was motivated by the deaths to help respond to those requests. He and 25 lawyers at his firm pitched in and purchased 25,000 dual-ionization First Alert smoke detectors. They plan to give them away to the public simply for the asking.

Wright, who considered Madla a friend, called the use of smoke detectors "critical" during the holiday season.

Beginning Wednesday smoke detectors will be available for free to those in need from the offices of attorney Wayne Wright. Requests can be made by calling his office at (210) 734-7077. Installation assistance is also available upon request.

Community need spurred the law office into action.

"We saw that children were perishing, and that's when Wayne decided we'd better do something for the community," said Alex Wright, Wright's law partner and son.

After discussions with fire officials, Wayne Wright and his fellow attorneys decided to go one step further and ensure the detectors are properly installed.

Alex Wright said they plan to meet fire officials to work out a plan for the San Antonio Fire Department to help with the installation.

"Not having smoke detectors is kind of only half the problem. The other half of the problem is that they're not being put up," Alex Wright said.

Starting Wednesday, the office will offer free smoke detectors and help in installation "without anyone having to lift a finger," Alex Wright said. "And if we need to do more, we'll do more."

He said his office would have more details on Wednesday.

Until only a few weeks ago, the Fire Department fielded just a handful of calls daily for free smoke detectors.

The department first saw a jump in requests after a Nov. 24 fire killed Madla, his mother-in-law and young granddaughter.

But that number shot to 300 in the first hours after a fire killed four people, three of them deaf, in a house on Westshire Drive on Dec. 8. In the following week, officials received 200 calls for detectors, SAFD District Chief Randy Jenkins said.

The requests have exhausted the department's supply, spurring fire officials to seek more donations from local businesses, because SAFD doesn't have its own smoke alarm budget, Jenkins said. Already, the Fire Department has given away or committed to giving away 900 of the devices.

Of the 11 San Antonio locations where fires have taken lives within the past year, only one had a detector, Jenkins said.

Despite the deaths, not every business has been inundated with calls for smoke alarms.

A half-price sale might have spurred a slight jump in purchases of smoke detectors at Acme Lumber Co. but not by much, store employee Marie Hendershot said. Plenty of the alarms still hung from hooks. On a bottom shelf sat a faded box containing a fire escape ladder made of plastic and rope.

Hendershot admitted she wasn't sure if her smoke detector at home was functional.

"There's one up there. I haven't got a clue if it works," she said.

She figures most people are like herself: stubborn and convinced no harm will ever come to them, a philosophy that Jenkins said won't save any lives.

"People say, 'Oh, those things don't really happen,'" the chief said. "No one's really all that safe."

He also emphasized the Fire Department won't deny a detector to anyone; however, he asked those who could afford the alarms to buy them.

Fire Department officials typically will install smoke alarms donated to them and battery-operated detectors that people purchase but don't know how to set up.

Jenkins encouraged holiday shoppers to think in terms of safety when buying their gifts this year.

"Give your family a $10 smoke detector," he said.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
vdavila@express-news.net
Staff Writers Lomi Kriel and Vincent T. Davis contributed to this report.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Online at: MySA.com: Metro | State
 
U got right concept, it is all production cost, the more "limited edition" production the more expensive it gets. My friend is in process of manufacturing a product, was shocked to find out how much it cost to start a prototype, so in long run, he have to get that money back somehow, hopefully this product would become hot selling so he can break even in few years.
Smoke detector isn't my real concern. The real concern is carbon monoxide detectors, they don't have much available, even though there is some but very very expensive and this is really hogwash! It is mainly because most companies do NOT want to spend thousands of dollars to start prototype, gov't approval process, etc and that can drag the time. So, we ended up have very little resources. I think it is in-justificable. Government should have fork the cost, and WAIVE the cost to approve these products. (UL approval, and other safety related approvals are NOT cheap!).

I wonder if the high prices are due to the smaller market (for adaptive smoke detectors vs. standard smoke detectors). In the blindness community many items are very expensive (for example, $700 for a screen reader or $5,000 for a Braille display) because of the extremely small market. I'm sure the same is true for the deaf and hard of hearing. Then again, as long as companies can get away with charging high prices (because consumers pay these prices -- they really have no choice), I guess it's also a matter of (unfair) business practices.
 
That kind of brand.. flash alarm. isnt working for me and my man.. and most deafies too because strobes are good for when we are sleeping.. that flash alarm do not work.. if it flashes when you are on the back.. but strobe.. is real strong..flash..


That's so true....
 
U got right concept, it is all production cost, the more "limited edition" production the more expensive it gets. My friend is in process of manufacturing a product, was shocked to find out how much it cost to start a prototype, so in long run, he have to get that money back somehow, hopefully this product would become hot selling so he can break even in few years.
Smoke detector isn't my real concern. The real concern is carbon monoxide detectors, they don't have much available, even though there is some but very very expensive and this is really hogwash! It is mainly because most companies do NOT want to spend thousands of dollars to start prototype, gov't approval process, etc and that can drag the time. So, we ended up have very little resources. I think it is in-justificable. Government should have fork the cost, and WAIVE the cost to approve these products. (UL approval, and other safety related approvals are NOT cheap!).

Why does you need CO detectors? There's alot of prevent from CO, such as never run the engine in car when garage door is closed and never burn gas or charcoal in house, car or tent.

I can careless about smoke detector or CO detector.
 
Why does you need CO detectors? There's alot of prevent from CO, such as never run the engine in car when garage door is closed and never burn gas or charcoal in house, car or tent.

I can careless about smoke detector or CO detector.

Watch your mouth! You NEVER know what happens. Any electric or whatever catches on fire and you could get hurt, smoke detector is very important because of fires next door apartment can spread or anything catches on fire here in this apt for almost no reason.
 
If the fire alarm are too expensive, you could get a good dog. Even, if the alarm fire or flash doesn't wake you up....a dog could wake you up by "poking" by their nose....ya know? My "untrained" dog did that to me when she want to go to outside or etc.
 
If the fire alarm are too expensive, you could get a good dog. Even, if the alarm fire or flash doesn't wake you up....a dog could wake you up by "poking" by their nose....ya know? My "untrained" dog did that to me when she want to go to outside or etc.

You means hearing dog?
 
Watch your mouth! You NEVER know what happens. Any electric or whatever catches on fire and you could get hurt, smoke detector is very important because of fires next door apartment can spread or anything catches on fire here in this apt for almost no reason.

Really? I don't know about electric that cause fire, also forgot to using my thinking about fire in apartment.

Thanks for helping me.
 
First off I'd like to thank All Deaf for this forum.

For those of you who have not followed this story, a second TV broadcast was made by Fred Lozano of KENS5-TV.

I was made aware of this story by a caseworker from the Austin TX. area. Being the President of the Foundation for Safer Housing we got involved as quickly as possible. It was very sad to find out that four members of a hearing impaired family perished in that blaze. We have been in contact with KENS5-TV, the SAFD, fire chief Randy Jenkins, Stevenson Middle School IA teachers and staff, the SA school district and many others.

First off, upon seeing fire chief Carl Wedige say that no one ever stepped up and donated a strobe type alarm to the fire dept left me shocked. The Foundation has shipped 6 of these units to the SAFD for special use with any hearing impaired family.

Secondly, the Foundation has 60 of the Gentex 700 series visual smoke alarms for the students. We expect to have our Exec Director and volunteers at the school in early Feb. We have been in contact with other hearing impaired groups in the area and are working on special fund raising projects to purchase as many of these alarms as possible. A few verbal commitments have been received but at this time it is impossible to state the number of alarms will be on hand at that time.

For those of you that are in need of a visual alarm, please visit our website Safer Housing certain requirements will need to be met in order to qualify. The website is easy to follow and the application can be done online or thru the mail by downloading the pdf file. You can follow some of our past workings, where we've been and who we've helped

I will be happy to answer any and all questions that you might have.

Thank you for the opportunity to post and please stay safe.

Paul
 
Back
Top