Audiofuzzy
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Liebling, I feel very uneasy to reply again because I don't want to hurt anybody's feeling. Especially yours, such a smart, proud woman and obviously loving parent.
You are right I am only but a few days here, but I am not that completely clueless about CI -from technical point of view.
I found out about it long time ago, from the TV show for people with disablities, from an interview with this woman, Beverly Biderman.
I read her book (I recommend it to everyone) and I understand a bit about how CI work.
You are absolutely right I am new to the CI issues.
But I am not talking here about "CI", I am talking about what the definition of COSMETIC surgery is, and why CI imo is NOT a cosmetic surgery. It has nothing to do with kids etc.
I did check your response to mr Gusto:
>>Sure, but to me, elective surgery is STILL relate to kind of cosmetic. example about breast silkon, etc because they want to change to improve their body.<<
You are right in this aspect that cosmetic surgery is an elective surgery.
because it does not saves life, it is not medical emergency.
But implanting silicon does not change the body's function, it is still the same breast, does the same thing, only it's bigger.
I am not debating CI issues I am debating the definiton of what is cosmetic surgery. Not CI issues, no.
>>> they should not mix CI issues with any "emergencies" issue because CI is not relate to kind of emergencies etc. Got it?<<<
got it !! with salute
and here I agree with you on this - but once again this is another subject, OK, not related to what the definiton of cosmetic surgery is, OK?
now please try to see what I am trying to say.
Deafdyke;
>>>WRONG! Lots of people with craniofacial issues undergo cosmetic surgery to correct normal functions of the body. Yes, it's not the same as some rich bitch opting for surgery b/c she wants bigger boobs but it's still cosmetic surgery!<<<
Craniofacial surgery, which an example of is cleft palate, does not changes body function, it merely improves it and changes the appearance, it does not actually restore breathing or something like that.
It falls under category of plastic surgery or reconstructive surgery of which yes, cosmetic surgery is a big part of.
from Web Definiton:
reconstructive surgery
surgery performed on atypical structures of the body, cause by congenital problems, developmental differences, trauma or injury, infections, tumors or disease. It is generally performed to improve function, but may also be done to approximate a “normal” appearance (per the American Society of Plastic Surgeons).
here are examples of plastic surgeries:
Breast surgery - including developmental abnormalities and post-mastectomy reconstruction.
Burns - a new burns unit was opened in 1994 allowing comprehensive care of burns patients.
Cleft lip and palate - specialist clinics held throughout the region ensure early consultation and minimise distances travelled by children and their families.
Facial anomalies - facial palsy and eyelid ptosis.
Hand surgery - including congenital deformity, rheumatoid and osteoarthritis, nerve compression and Dupuytren's contracture.
Head & Neck surgery - resection and reconstruction of oral and salivary gland cancers.
Hypospadias - reconstruction of congenital penile anomalies.
Skin cancer - including those undergoing more complex reconstructions such as skin grafts or flaps.
Trauma - facial and hand injuries, and the provision of soft tissue cover to compound lower limb fractures.
I think reconstructive surgery is different from CI in this aspect that it still does not change body function - it only improves it, whereas CI does change function. If you care to see here:
""A cochlear implant is very different from a hearing aid. Hearing aids amplify sound. Cochlear implants compensate for damaged or non-working parts of the inner ear. When hearing is functioning normally, complicated parts of the inner ear convert sound waves in the air into electrical impulses. These impulses are then sent to the brain, where a hearing person recognizes them as sound. A cochlear implant works in a similar manner. It electronically finds useful sounds and then sends them to the brain. Hearing through an implant may sound different from normal hearing, but it allows many people to communicate fully with oral communication in person and over the phone.
It electronically finds useful sounds- that means it's not your ear that does the work, it's only implant- it OMITS the ear altogether. The sound is sent to the brain via electrodes, not via ear nerves.
That's the big difference. It changes how the body works.
But ya know what,
what would be the best thing to do? If some of you who are in good contact with a medical dr prefferably ear dr could call him/her and settle this once and for all, ask if CI is cosmetic or not,
because I have to admit I am beginning to doubt myself.. The we would all know for sure!
Fuzzy
You are right I am only but a few days here, but I am not that completely clueless about CI -from technical point of view.
I found out about it long time ago, from the TV show for people with disablities, from an interview with this woman, Beverly Biderman.
I read her book (I recommend it to everyone) and I understand a bit about how CI work.
You are absolutely right I am new to the CI issues.
But I am not talking here about "CI", I am talking about what the definition of COSMETIC surgery is, and why CI imo is NOT a cosmetic surgery. It has nothing to do with kids etc.
I did check your response to mr Gusto:
>>Sure, but to me, elective surgery is STILL relate to kind of cosmetic. example about breast silkon, etc because they want to change to improve their body.<<
You are right in this aspect that cosmetic surgery is an elective surgery.
because it does not saves life, it is not medical emergency.
But implanting silicon does not change the body's function, it is still the same breast, does the same thing, only it's bigger.
I am not debating CI issues I am debating the definiton of what is cosmetic surgery. Not CI issues, no.
>>> they should not mix CI issues with any "emergencies" issue because CI is not relate to kind of emergencies etc. Got it?<<<
got it !! with salute
and here I agree with you on this - but once again this is another subject, OK, not related to what the definiton of cosmetic surgery is, OK?
now please try to see what I am trying to say.
Deafdyke;
>>>WRONG! Lots of people with craniofacial issues undergo cosmetic surgery to correct normal functions of the body. Yes, it's not the same as some rich bitch opting for surgery b/c she wants bigger boobs but it's still cosmetic surgery!<<<
Craniofacial surgery, which an example of is cleft palate, does not changes body function, it merely improves it and changes the appearance, it does not actually restore breathing or something like that.
It falls under category of plastic surgery or reconstructive surgery of which yes, cosmetic surgery is a big part of.
from Web Definiton:
reconstructive surgery
surgery performed on atypical structures of the body, cause by congenital problems, developmental differences, trauma or injury, infections, tumors or disease. It is generally performed to improve function, but may also be done to approximate a “normal” appearance (per the American Society of Plastic Surgeons).
here are examples of plastic surgeries:
Breast surgery - including developmental abnormalities and post-mastectomy reconstruction.
Burns - a new burns unit was opened in 1994 allowing comprehensive care of burns patients.
Cleft lip and palate - specialist clinics held throughout the region ensure early consultation and minimise distances travelled by children and their families.
Facial anomalies - facial palsy and eyelid ptosis.
Hand surgery - including congenital deformity, rheumatoid and osteoarthritis, nerve compression and Dupuytren's contracture.
Head & Neck surgery - resection and reconstruction of oral and salivary gland cancers.
Hypospadias - reconstruction of congenital penile anomalies.
Skin cancer - including those undergoing more complex reconstructions such as skin grafts or flaps.
Trauma - facial and hand injuries, and the provision of soft tissue cover to compound lower limb fractures.
I think reconstructive surgery is different from CI in this aspect that it still does not change body function - it only improves it, whereas CI does change function. If you care to see here:
""A cochlear implant is very different from a hearing aid. Hearing aids amplify sound. Cochlear implants compensate for damaged or non-working parts of the inner ear. When hearing is functioning normally, complicated parts of the inner ear convert sound waves in the air into electrical impulses. These impulses are then sent to the brain, where a hearing person recognizes them as sound. A cochlear implant works in a similar manner. It electronically finds useful sounds and then sends them to the brain. Hearing through an implant may sound different from normal hearing, but it allows many people to communicate fully with oral communication in person and over the phone.
It electronically finds useful sounds- that means it's not your ear that does the work, it's only implant- it OMITS the ear altogether. The sound is sent to the brain via electrodes, not via ear nerves.
That's the big difference. It changes how the body works.
But ya know what,
what would be the best thing to do? If some of you who are in good contact with a medical dr prefferably ear dr could call him/her and settle this once and for all, ask if CI is cosmetic or not,
because I have to admit I am beginning to doubt myself.. The we would all know for sure!
Fuzzy
