What makes for a good teacher of the Deaf?

shel90 said:
Well, there is one thing for sure. We have to be fluent in two languages while hearing teachers of hearing kids dont.

For that alone, we should get paid more.
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I thought special ed teachers, including TODs, general require additional education (another MA, a prof. certification or doctorate) to specialize in the area and start at a higher step/scale, and so usually do make more than your average classroom teacher with just one MA in a subject area like English, Spanish, or Math?
 
GrendelQ said:
I thought special ed teachers, including TODs, general require additional education (another MA, a prof. certification or doctorate) to specialize in the area and start at a higher step/scale, and so usually do make more than your average classroom teacher with just one MA in a subject area like English, Spanish, or Math?
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Nope, I make a lot less than the regular ed teachers in the public schools around here.

I dont know if special ed teachers get paid more than the regular ed teachers in the public schools.
 
shel90 said:
Nope, I make a lot less than the regular ed teachers in the public schools around here.

I dont know if special ed teachers get paid more than the regular ed teachers in the public schools.
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Oh, you are at a private school? That's just wrong (the payscale, not the private school job :) ). I do think it's a more difficult job requiring greater expertise. The whole point of having TODs is to tap into that greater expertise.

Much as he loved the school, my husband made much less when he taught at a private Quaker school and had to look for something that paid more reasonably. I guess it's just the nature of the beast -- ironic, too, when parents are paying so much to send their kids to private schools.
 
GrendelQ said:
Oh, you are at a private school? That's just wrong (the payscale, not the private school job :) ). I do think it's a more difficult job requiring greater expertise. The whole point of having TODs is to tap into that greater expertise.

Much as he loved the school, my husband made much less when he taught at a private Quaker school and had to look for something that paid more reasonably. I guess it's just the nature of the beast -- ironic, too, when parents are paying so much to send their kids to private schools.
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However, I dont think TODs get paid more in the public schools. My friend is a TOD at one and she said that she is on the same pay scale as the other teachers. I will need to ask her again.
 
luck doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. Do you actually imagine for a moment that i haven't had to fight tooth and nail for every step along the way for my child? You are amazingly ignorant about the IEP process, and the role of parents in it. Why is that? Because you have zero experience & you make sweeping generalizations about EVERYTHING you talk about.
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WTF? Sorry, but I have had DECADES of experiance both personally AND via friends who have kids in the system......and we're talking public school system. If you think it's hard getting accomondations or proper services in a Deaf School, you don't even WANT to know how bad it is in the public school....Yes, we get the idea that your Deaf School was bad in providing spoken language therapy. Yes, we realize you had a lot of trouble trying to get access to good oral schooling. That was just ONE area. I can guarntee you if Miss Kat had started out in an Easter Seals style placement (the way a LOT of kids with moderate or hoh style losses do) or a public school placement you would be ranting and raving about how crappy sped services are. You are lucky you started out in the deaf ed system!
 
deafdyke said:
WTF? Sorry, but I have had DECADES of experiance both personally AND via friends who have kids in the system......and we're talking public school system. If you think it's hard getting accomondations or proper services in a Deaf School, you don't even WANT to know how bad it is in the public school....Yes, we get the idea that your Deaf School was bad in providing spoken language therapy. Yes, we realize you had a lot of trouble trying to get access to good oral schooling. That was just ONE area. I can guarntee you if Miss Kat had started out in an Easter Seals style placement (the way a LOT of kids with moderate or hoh style losses do) or a public school placement you would be ranting and raving about how crappy sped services are. You are lucky you started out in the deaf ed system!
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Let it go and consider the source, deafdyke. Another episode of defensiveness and all about me going on.:roll:
 
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deafdyke said:
luck doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. Do you actually imagine for a moment that i haven't had to fight tooth and nail for every step along the way for my child? You are amazingly ignorant about the IEP process, and the role of parents in it. Why is that? Because you have zero experience & you make sweeping generalizations about EVERYTHING you talk about.
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WTF? Sorry, but I have had DECADES of experiance both personally AND via friends who have kids in the system......and we're talking public school system. If you think it's hard getting accomondations or proper services in a Deaf School, you don't even WANT to know how bad it is in the public school....Yes, we get the idea that your Deaf School was bad in providing spoken language therapy. Yes, we realize you had a lot of trouble trying to get access to good oral schooling. That was just ONE area. I can guarntee you if Miss Kat had started out in an Easter Seals style placement (the way a LOT of kids with moderate or hoh style losses do) or a public school placement you would be ranting and raving about how crappy sped services are. You are lucky you started out in the deaf ed system!
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you have fought for a deaf school placement for yourself? I had no idea...

and again, it is not luck that my daughter has always been in deaf schools, it is because i made it happen. We didn't accept the public school placement they offered.
 
The more I think about it, the more I realize a good Deaf teacher has the ability to have the student visualize the lessons effectively. At least that was from my recollections. :hmm:
 
Beowulf said:
The more I think about it, the more I realize a good Deaf teacher has the ability to have the student visualize the lessons effectively. At least that was from my recollections. :hmm:
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That's what I was talking about from the whole spinoff on TOD effort last night, lol. I thought some of you folks were against that and I was like :wtf:!! :wave:
 
naisho said:
That's what I was talking about from the whole spinoff on TOD effort last night, lol. I thought some of you folks were against that and I was like :wtf:!! :wave:
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I never said I was a rocket scientist. Just gimme time and I will have my moment of "Eureka!" :lol:
 
I always felt like whoever makes a good teacher of ___________ is one that busts their ass to make sure the students feel safe and respected in a rigorous academic environment with accessible material.
 
Beowulf said:
The more I think about it, the more I realize a good Deaf teacher has the ability to have the student visualize the lessons effectively. At least that was from my recollections. :hmm:
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Absolutely.
 
naisho said:
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The hearing educator has an easier time due to being able to work with group settings, than a case-by-case basis. Thus, they have less effort. Is this not realized?
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What hearing school are you talking about? :shock: I'd love to teach children at the same skill and language level!

Actually, I'm getting out of teaching and into relative linguistics because of this. Too much paperwork. Overwhelming bureaucracy. Half of your time is babysitting. No emphasis on academics. bleeh
 
TheOracle said:
What hearing school are you talking about? :shock: I'd love to teach children at the same skill and language level!

Actually, I'm getting out of teaching and into relative linguistics because of this. Too much paperwork. Overwhelming bureaucracy. Half of your time is babysitting. No emphasis on academics. bleeh
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Yea, I have been thinking a lot about getting out of teaching as well.
 
shel90 said:
Yea, I have been thinking a lot about getting out of teaching as well.
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My little sister certainly did. She used to be a second grade teacher then she went to grad school and now she works for in the adminstrative section of thof Dept of Education.
 
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