What do you guys think about the kick backs that CI implanters get?

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I personally think it is disgusting.

Discuss, please.
 
CI companies paying doctors "bonuses" on each implantation they do....

Therefore, in some cases it is not in the patient's best interest to have a CI, but can have an hearing aid and would be fine. But the doctor likes the $100k bill each ear, and the bonus from the CI Company. With that over his head he steers his patients into the direction that will benefit the doctor the most.

Normalizing Society is a great thing, isnt it... :roll:
 
doesn't sound good to me...a doctors Hypocatratic Oath......I shall do no unnessacary harm.....exactly where the term hypocrite comes from.
I am assuming you mean if they reach a certain sales level.
 
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I wasn't sure what you meant.... didn't want to have this become another "pro-choice versus parentalism" thread.

Franky... what can you do? It's not really the doctors I am worried about. It's the audiologists that get paid for recommendations.
 
Cowpuppy said:
doesn't sound good to me...a doctors Hypocatratic Oath......I shall do no unnessacary harm.....exactly where the term hypocrite comes from.
I am assuming you mean if they reach a certain sales level.
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Per CI.

Cochlear America is currently being investigated by the FBI for this.
 
souggy said:
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I wasn't sure what you meant.... didn't want to have this become another "pro-choice versus parentalism" thread.

Franky... what can you do? It's not really the doctors I am worried about. It's the audiologists that get paid for recommendations.
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That's what I'm talking about.
It's sickening.
 
Per CI.

Cochlear America is currently being investigated by the FBI for this.
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That honestly does not surprise me. Link thou? The CI has been so beyond overhyped especially since they loosened the restrictions on who can and can't get one. As I've always said, they're great for people who obviously totally and completely qualify for them. But when you get randomly IMd by people who are all " CI CI CI!" or who talk about nothing but CI....
The thing that I am very uncomfortable with is that they push CI as something that can magicly overcome the disadvantages of being hoh!
 
Yeah, I think about it quite a bit, and have posted several times on just that topic. Of course, I always get told "No, that doesn't happen!" by a few that choose not to see the truth.
 
souggy said:
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I wasn't sure what you meant.... didn't want to have this become another "pro-choice versus parentalism" thread.

Franky... what can you do? It's not really the doctors I am worried about. It's the audiologists that get paid for recommendations.
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As far as I know unilaterally deaf people don't qualify for CI. But the member Thanx2gezus seemed today to be indicating it would be a possibility to to a new member. Thanz2gezus identified herself as a student audi. So apparently they are taught to push early on in traning.


Hi Redmachchick!
I'm a first year audiology student (so know I don't know everything). When you say 'nerve damage' what do you mean? I ask because if the nerve damage is at a certain point in your ear/hearing, a cochlear implant wouldn't work because the signal wouldn't get to your brain. And since they would implant the 'deaf' ear, that would make it impossible. Feel free to ask the second audiologist that you are going to see (to get clarification), they shouldn't look at you like you have two heads (I apologize for her, that wasn't right).
Secondly, hearing aids have changed a lot. In fact they change yearly. You and your audiologist should be able to find a type that fits your lifestyle and needs and helps you. The nice thing is that there is almost always a trial period so you can see if you like it (if they help) and if not you don't hav
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http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids...oday-questions-about-has-cis.html#post1426163
 
Bottesini said:
As far as I know unilaterally deaf people don't qualify for CI. But the member Thanx2gezus seemed today to be indicating it would be a possibility to to a new member. Thanz2gezus identified herself as a student audi. So apparently they are taught to push early on in traning.




http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids...oday-questions-about-has-cis.html#post1426163
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Yep, doctors sees Deafness as a "problem" because they have this thought that the deaf people are not accessing the same things the people who can hear can access.
In a fine quote from Kokonut "Much bigger things in life."
 
I think it is disgusting.
 
Cochlear's 2007 annual report acknowledges that a Federal investigation continues into its payments to physicians and providers. In February 2007, part of the whistleblower complaint against Cochlear filed by former Chief Financial Officer Brenda March was unsealed by the U.S. District Court for the District of Colorado. The complaint alleges that Cochlear violated the Federal anti-kickback statute through its Partners Program, which offered credits towards free or discounted products for physicians who implanted Cochlear devices, as well as gifts, trips, and other gratuities paid to physicians and providers. The government intervened in the case and transferred it from the U.S. Department of Justice to the Health and Human Services Inspector General for the imposition of civil penalties. The amount of sanctions are not yet known.
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Will try to find some more on it.
 
Yes, it is disgusting, but the problem is not with the doctors or Audis; it lies within a broken healthcare system that allows and even encourages so called "professionals" to do unethical things in order to make an extra buck.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Yes, it is disgusting, but the problem is not with the doctors or Audis; it lies within a broken healthcare system that allows and even encourages so called "professionals" to do unethical things in order to make an extra buck.
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They have moral inferiority if they do unethical things for an extra buck.
 
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