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ash345

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Ok so for the past couple years I've been hearing something weird in my ears that i could never really figure out what it was... My audi doesn't know what to tell me or why I'm hearing the sound... but I think I'm starting to be able to describe it. I'm pretty sure it is connected to either my nerve damage or my SNL, but it could be something completely different. It doesn't matter if I have my HAs on or off, but I always hear it... and I have decided it kinda sounds like water running... I think... thats as close as i can get to describe it. Anyone know what i'm talking about?

I've been looking into going to an ENT but will they really have any useful information for me, or will they just say... sorry... no idea? :hmm: not sure if i should go or not.
 
Can I ask...did you ever have hearing? I might have a possible explanation for you based on the answer to that question.
 
never normal hearing... I still have a little residual hearing... the best my audiogram has ever been was moderate.
 
Okay. Sometimes, when one has had hearing, the brain is used to receiving stimulation through that mode. When hearing is lost, the brain will sometimes compensate by creating noise to fill the lack of stimulation that it is used to having. It can be in the form of phantom sounds, or even musical hallucinations.
 
jillio said:
Okay. Sometimes, when one has had hearing, the brain is used to receiving stimulation through that mode. When hearing is lost, the brain will sometimes compensate by creating noise to fill the lack of stimulation that it is used to having. It can be in the form of phantom sounds, or even musical hallucinations.
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so like a mental issue? since you are... a mental health professional (couldnt thinkl of the word)... how do i know if that is the case? and how do i make it stop? I hate it.
 
ash345 said:
so like a mental issue? since you are... a mental health professional (couldnt thinkl of the word)... how do i know if that is the case? and how do i make it stop? I hate it.
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No, not a mental issue at all. It is a biological thing where your brain is adapting to a new lack of sound.

I don't know for sure that is what is going on with you. Just a suggestion as to what it could be. If that is what it is, it will stop on it's own.
 
thank you. hoping that it goes away... when ever I am told of phantom things, such as phantom pains, I always think mental issue, not sure why. its been going on for over a year... and even with my HA's on... I can still hear it... and it is really annoying, and seems to be getting worse. when I told my audi that I was hearing weird nosies, he asked to describe them, and I couldn't because I didn't remember what things sounded like really... but now that I have my HA's... I can kinda describe it... i'm not sure if that is really what it sounds like but that is how my brain processes it. he said he didn't see any fluid or anything... so i'm assuming that aspect is fine. but really... I would just like it to go away.
 
ash345 said:
thank you. hoping that it goes away... when ever I am told of phantom things, such as phantom pains, I always think mental issue, not sure why. its been going on for over a year... and even with my HA's on... I can still hear it... and it is really annoying, and seems to be getting worse. when I told my audi that I was hearing weird nosies, he asked to describe them, and I couldn't because I didn't remember what things sounded like really... but now that I have my HA's... I can kinda describe it... i'm not sure if that is really what it sounds like but that is how my brain processes it. he said he didn't see any fluid or anything... so i'm assuming that aspect is fine. but really... I would just like it to go away.
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Probably because I used the word "hallucinations" in describing the sounds, and most people think hallucinations and schizophrenia or psychotic. But hallucination can also be used to describe a sound that you are hearing that is not coming from outside of you but is being created by your brain. It doesn't have anything to do with mental disorders. It is just your brain's way of adjusting to a new situation.

You mentioned phantom pain...it is kind of the same thing. Phantom pain is the brain's way of replacing stimuli that was received before the limb was amputated. Since all pain is processed in the brain, the pain seems very, very real to the person experiencing phantom pain. Sound also is processed in the brain, so phantom sounds seem very real, as well. Even though the brain is creating both.

I'm hoping that it goes away soon, too. I understand these things can be very annoying, and at their worst, can interfere with concentration.

It could be worse, though. I have read case studies of people that actually hear whole scores of classical music note for note with several different instruments playing together.
 
Sorry to say, my musical tennitus (for 50 years) has never gone away....Other "sounds" do pop up here and there....And Jillio is right, concentration with this is very hard.

The "sounds" you are hearing may or may not stop on their own. Right now, I have "zinging and shrilling" going on...and a song in the background. It's a challenge to adapt to it, but it can be done!...Reading a good book, even knitting has helped me somewhat, even taking long drives. Good luck to you!
 
rockin'robin said:
Sorry to say, my musical tennitus (for 50 years) has never gone away....Other "sounds" do pop up here and there....And Jillio is right, concentration with this is very hard.

The "sounds" you are hearing may or may not stop on their own. Right now, I have "zinging and shrilling" going on...and a song in the background. It's a challenge to adapt to it, but it can be done!...Reading a good book, even knitting has helped me somewhat, even taking long drives. Good luck to you!
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I didn't realize that you are one that experiences musical hallucinations. I find the topic so interesting. I would love to look deeper into this phenomenon. I have been wondering if a child, who hears for maybe 4 or 5 years, and really has no memory of hearing, experienced any phantom sounds after loosing their hearing or if it is just an adult phenomenon. I'm wondering how much personal experience has to do with the type of phantom sound the brain creates. That would make sense if it is just an adult phenomenon.

BTW...knitting is my stress relief. I find that when I am knitting, I concentrate on that and let other things go. If I try to read when I am stressed, I just end up not concentrating on what I am reading. I figure it has something to do with the hand / brain connection.

Agreed. Sometimes, with things like this, you just have to learn to go with the flow.
 
jillio said:
Probably because I used the word "hallucinations" in describing the sounds, and most people think hallucinations and schizophrenia or psychotic. But hallucination can also be used to describe a sound that you are hearing that is not coming from outside of you but is being created by your brain. It doesn't have anything to do with mental disorders. It is just your brain's way of adjusting to a new situation.

You mentioned phantom pain...it is kind of the same thing. Phantom pain is the brain's way of replacing stimuli that was received before the limb was amputated. Since all pain is processed in the brain, the pain seems very, very real to the person experiencing phantom pain. Sound also is processed in the brain, so phantom sounds seem very real, as well. Even though the brain is creating both.

I'm hoping that it goes away soon, too. I understand these things can be very annoying, and at their worst, can interfere with concentration.

It could be worse, though. I have read case studies of people that actually hear whole scores of classical music note for note with several different instruments playing together.
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I hear sounds sometime that no one else can hear, sometime it will last for a couple of weeks then go away. I tried to tuned it out. Some people try bio feed back therapy to help manger the sounds.
 
jillio said:
I didn't realize that you are one that experiences musical hallucinations. I find the topic so interesting. I would love to look deeper into this phenomenon. I have been wondering if a child, who hears for maybe 4 or 5 years, and really has no memory of hearing, experienced any phantom sounds after loosing their hearing or if it is just an adult phenomenon. I'm wondering how much personal experience has to do with the type of phantom sound the brain creates. That would make sense if it is just an adult phenomenon.

BTW...knitting is my stress relief. I find that when I am knitting, I concentrate on that and let other things go. If I try to read when I am stressed, I just end up not concentrating on what I am reading. I figure it has something to do with the hand / brain connection.

Agreed. Sometimes, with things like this, you just have to learn to go with the flow.
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I don't know about children...but I was 14...still remember so many songs and what the recording artists sounded like, trains, dogs barking, a cat's meow...so many things....As far as concentration/following specific directions, I'm lacking in that aspect, very much so.
 
rockin'robin said:
I don't know about children...but I was 14...still remember so many songs and what the recording artists sounded like, trains, dogs barking, a cat's meow...so many things....As far as concentration/following specific directions, I'm lacking in that aspect, very much so.
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At 14, I would think that you would have enough life experience and knowledge that it would have an influence on the type of phantom sounds you experience. I am constantly on the lookout for new findings on this phenomenon. Anything I find I will share with AD.

This is really a new theory and it needs to be looked into more in depth. I just find it so interesting the way the human brain adapts to individual circumstances. This is an accurate portrayal of plasticity. I get so tired of the oralists misusing the term plasticity and confusing the concept to suit their platform.
 
Like Rockin Robin, I have the musical tinnitus, and a LOT of noise. Right now, I have crickets, and a sound kind of like balls bearings in a tin pie pan being spun around and around, and I also am hearing a classical song called Flight of the Bumblebee.

My worst was having the Amazing grace on one side and Barney the Dinosaur sing his "I love you" song.

Since I lost all my hearing, it is never ending. There is always some sort of "sound" going on. Try having the same tune play like a scratched record for 6 weeks constant. That will drive one loopy!

Wish I knew something to help you, then I would know how to help myself. Just knowing I am not alone helps me somewhat. Also, if I keep busy doing something, it's not as bad. But it has to be something I am concentrating on like painting or knitting or something like that.
 
ash345 said:
Ok so for the past couple years I've been hearing something weird in my ears that i could never really figure out what it was... My audi doesn't know what to tell me or why I'm hearing the sound... but I think I'm starting to be able to describe it. I'm pretty sure it is connected to either my nerve damage or my SNL, but it could be something completely different. It doesn't matter if I have my HAs on or off, but I always hear it... and I have decided it kinda sounds like water running... I think... thats as close as i can get to describe it. Anyone know what i'm talking about?

I've been looking into going to an ENT but will they really have any useful information for me, or will they just say... sorry... no idea? :hmm: not sure if i should go or not.
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OMG I had that problem probaly freshman year and I thought it was the telecoil/earhook on my old hearing aid doing that!
 
sometimes I can hearing aid weird odd on sometimes I am aware it I learn it depend on pretty tough! I know not easy because tech! something pretty tough!
 
smithtr said:
sometimes I can hearing aid weird odd on sometimes I am aware it I learn it depend on pretty tough! I know not easy because tech! something pretty tough!
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the thing is, it doesn't only happen when I have my aids in, its constant... trying to make an ENT appointment... just have to find one that is willing to not hang up on my VRS calls...
 
ash345 said:
the thing is, it doesn't only happen when I have my aids in, its constant... trying to make an ENT appointment... just have to find one that is willing to not hang up on my VRS calls...
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I Hope be solve problem! adjust to you !!! isssues problem pretty tough! I

really I am surprised wonder hung up I am surprised!

back up doctor ? postpone?
 
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