We are drawn to those who agree with us and validates us in a way.

[Frisky Feline]

same here.

I just go with the flow in life and enjoy myself, not taking everyone's words too personally. Life is too short. :shrug: Unless, the case is that someone gets in my way, then that is a whole different story.

 

[shel90]

same here.

I just go with the flow in life and enjoy myself, not taking everyone's words too personally. Life is too short. :shrug: Unless, the case is that someone gets in my way, then that is a whole different story.

Thumbs up!

 

[naisho]

I feel that one can only go so far.
Acceptance regardless of where that individual is coming from seems to be an intellectual trait.

The path general society went in debating subconsciously altered and paved the road for everyone else to date. Look at news articles, courts and stuff.
The ballgame is about who can score more points on finding the dirt on the other side, the ones with the most compelling evidence is automatically deemed victor in many cases.
From this, it appears as the actual purpose of a "debate" is then lost and the game is all about proving who's got the most criminalizing piece of evidence.
Example: Recent stuff unearthed on PETA and PETA's responses back.

If one really gets down to the root behind this, I've an inkling that it boils down to the form of government each individual grows up in.

Compare all the communist, democracies, monarchies, dictatorships, sovereigns of the world..
It should appear that the USA seems to have the most freedom for an individual expressing their rights.
That's probably how we see small claims and courts fussing about the most darndest of things, like a dog who got his butt hair shaved off one too many.
Example: I think the term "Oh yeah? How about ____ (this)!" stems from the USA.

The culture one grows up in not only explains how their rationalization works, but also reflects their natural government, that ought to play a major role as well.

Either way, interesting topic!

 

[saywhatkid]

Opinions vary. Agreement on various topics and situations are not constant. What tends to bond people is more likely sharing circumstance. People with children bond with other parents more easily than with childless adults. Same as my comment about stoners accepting other stoners. Just an observation.

 

[jillio]

Opinions vary. Agreement on various topics and situations are not constant. What tends to bond people is more likely sharing circumstance. People with children bond with other parents more easily than with childless adults. Same as my comment about stoners accepting other stoners. Just an observation.

And an apt observation, at that!

 

[Jolie77]

I feel that one can only go so far.
Acceptance regardless of where that individual is coming from seems to be an intellectual trait.

The path general society went in debating subconsciously altered and paved the road for everyone else to date. Look at news articles, courts and stuff.
The ballgame is about who can score more points on finding the dirt on the other side, the ones with the most compelling evidence is automatically deemed victor in many cases.
From this, it appears as the actual purpose of a "debate" is then lost and the game is all about proving who's got the most criminalizing piece of evidence.
Example: Recent stuff unearthed on PETA and PETA's responses back.

If one really gets down to the root behind this, I've an inkling that it boils down to the form of government each individual grows up in.

Compare all the communist, democracies, monarchies, dictatorships, sovereigns of the world..
It should appear that the USA seems to have the most freedom for an individual expressing their rights.
That's probably how we see small claims and courts fussing about the most darndest of things, like a dog who got his butt hair shaved off one too many.
Example: I think the term "Oh yeah? How about ____ (this)!" stems from the USA.

The culture one grows up in not only explains how their rationalization works, but also reflects their natural government, that ought to play a major role as well.

Either way, interesting topic!

You know, This is a thought provoking post you made. Not only because of what you said but you have brought out a lot of interesting points that makes me want to dig deeper in to this. This has even made me pique my curiosity even more.

It's kind of interesting how you have applied the form of any government - rather of these analogies - I'd have to say - Regardless of our freedom of speech - When all is lost, Sometime that can be backtracked to the original source of what was really there in the beginning than going down the road where all the causes are lost in order for a group to band together. I am all for us to express our individual rights but the question remains to be seen - When we do express our individual rights; How can it be validated to a point where the line needs to be drawn?

Understandably - It can be a form in a heat but does that make it right? Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn't.

As dogmatic as it sounds to be - There's the inkling of compelling thoughts/evidences that can always be entirely different at the end rather than when it originally started. Maybe when it's pragmatic, It is always usually in retro of bonding/agreeing rather than just saying "Oh yeah, I'm better and I know I'm right. You're wrong and imbecile."

I've always liked to go by observing rather than interfering because you get to see more when you observe.

 

[shel90]

I've always liked to go by observing rather than interfering because you get to see more when you observe.

And what have u seen just from observing?

 

[Jolie77]

And what have u seen just from observing?

That's a good question, Shel.

After have been observing on this forum for the past several years - I can say that we have a variety of members here who are outspoken and strong-willed. Not that it is a bad thing to have. It's a upbeat thing to have which is positive.

There is no question about this - I've seen a lot of GREAT GREAT support by other members that has been handed out oftenly which is a tremendous help to others.

As for agreeing/disagreeing - Well, Needless to say; Granted, from time to time - I've seen some situations where there are a lot of issues/words that has been sorted out to prolong it to make the matter worse rather than letting the sleeping dog to lie. What I mean is - Not that anything is wrong to agree to disagree but when it gets to a point where it continues beyond out of it's control; That's where the old broken record plays.

Understandably, When someone gets really passionate about a discussion - They will get on to it until it ends which is fine. I have no problem with it.

To sum it up - After observing all this forum; I have to say that everyone rocks in their own way; Even if it's all good or bad. We can't be expected to be perfect. After all, We're human beings.

Does that answer your question, Shel?

 

[shel90]

That's a good question, Shel.

After have been observing on this forum for the past several years - I can say that we have a variety of members here who are outspoken and strong-willed. Not that it is a bad thing to have. It's a upbeat thing to have which is positive.

There is no question about this - I've seen a lot of GREAT GREAT support by other members that has been handed out oftenly which is a tremendous help to others.

As for agreeing/disagreeing - Well, Needless to say; Granted, from time to time - I've seen some situations where there are a lot of issues/words that has been sorted out to prolong it to make the matter worse rather than letting the sleeping dog to lie. What I mean is - Not that anything is wrong to agree to disagree but when it gets to a point where it continues beyond out of it's control; That's where the old broken record plays.

Understandably, When someone gets really passionate about a discussion - They will get on to it until it ends which is fine. I have no problem with it.

To sum it up - After observing all this forum; I have to say that everyone rocks in their own way; Even if it's all good or bad. We can't be expected to be perfect. After all, We're human beings.

Does that answer your question, Shel?

Yea, it does , I thought u were referring to real life, not here on AD.

 

[saywhatkid]

As for agreeing/disagreeing - Well, Needless to say; Granted, from time to time - I've seen some situations where there are a lot of issues/words that has been sorted out to prolong it to make the matter worse rather than letting the sleeping dog to lie.

Like this:

 

[Jolie77]

Yea, it does , I thought u were referring to real life, not here on AD.

Ah, I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough on this.

As for real life - I suppose a lot of it still applies because there is a lot of variety of people out there that are in the form of being observed with saying we could have an logical or emotional aspect with retro of having to say there's a streak where we all could go afar or less. Either way can apply to it, I suppose?

Like this:

I guess you could say that.

 

[naisho]

You know, This is a thought provoking post you made. Not only because of what you said but you have brought out a lot of interesting points that makes me want to dig deeper in to this. This has even made me pique my curiosity even more.

Credit where credit's due, a lot of where I come from, hails from listening and observing the thoughts of others. There has been countless a time in my childhood when my father used to dial in on the radio show foaming vicariously from the mouth expunging why "Americans have too much freedom" for the rest of the world to hear.

When I got older, I really thought about his words. Sociology makes one look at things from a macro scale.

Anyways, the way I view it, from "a perch"..

The crowd gasping "ooh's" and "ahh's" at the fencing and resentment made to be in show for them.
That's most likely what made Court TV a popular hit.

Two wrongs do not make a right.
However three lefts do!

Some people may turn into rationalization (wo)man with a flagellant version of how the X block does not fit into the Y hole nor vice versa.
It then takes "three" of these (left) turns in one direction to steer the topic back onto the "right" course, and get everyone focused on the topic.
But the ultimate picture is that everyone's one notch back where they were before, as if no progress was ever made.

 

[Babyblue]

Another words. Seek the good in people, Instead of the bad.