The Glenn Beck thread!!!

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Ok. Let's see some of your typical frothing of the mouths. The derangment syndrome over Glenn Beck. Ever tried watching his show and his discussions?

Here's a 10 minute captioned video of Glenn Beck in discussion on what's wrong between Republicans and Democrats.

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bigot, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, paranoid, hypocrite, backward, unpatriotic, ignorant
 
Who is Glenn Beck?

this crybaby

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Glenn Beck: The Fears of a Clown
After he moved to Fox in January, his audience exploded to 2 million-plus viewers — unheard of at 5 p.m. His hook, for the age of economic anxiety: whereas O'Reilly embodies anger and Hannity brashness, Beck embraces fear.

It's hard to identify a Beck ideology so much as a set of attitudes, sometimes contradictory ones. He channels anger against Wall Street but defends the bonuses for AIG executives. He devoted a segment to debunking a conspiracy theory about FEMA "concentration camps" but has warned that the AmeriCorps program "indoctrinates your child into community service."

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"Don't Know Much About History"
One of the things that is so pathetic about the demagoguery of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck is that their understanding of history is so puerile that in any civilized debate they would be laughed off the stage. Of course they don't allow a civilized debate. The callers to their radio shows are pre-screened to maintain the echo chamber. Take their recent attempt to equate the Nazi's "National Socialism" with "Socialism". Here's Limbaugh yesterday.
But socialism is socialism, as I say. If you want me to I'll go back and give you the fascists of the Twenties and Thirties. They don't like Nazi Germany, I'll give you Mussolini's Italy. Or I can give you the Soviet Union any time in the Seventies, Eighties, and Nineties. Whatever you want, I can give you -- I can give you the North Koreans today. Socialism is socialism wherever it is, whatever you call it. But don't forget, folks, the term "Nazi" comes from the German word for National Socialism.
This equation that National Socialism was Socialism would come as a pretty big shock to the hundreds of thousands of German socialists (many of them Jewish) who were rounded up by the Nazi's in the 1930's and sent to prison camps or shot by firing squads.

In 1936, Hitler actually tried to eliminate the National Health Care system that had been set up by Bismarck (who Limbaugh amazingly called "a typical Lefty"). But his political counselors told him it would cause a public revolt, so he left it in place (except of course for "non-Aryans"). Richard Evans' definitive book on the rise of fascists in Germany, The Coming of the Third Reich, clearly lays out the true character of fascism in the year 1933. It fits Limbaugh, Beck and and Sarah Palin perfectly.
For all their aggressively egalitarian rhetoric, the Nazis were relatively indifferent, in the end, to the inequalities of society. What mattered to them above all else was race, culture and ideology. In the coming years, they would create a whole new set of institutions through which they would seek to remould the German Psyche and rebuild the German character.
The main institution used to remold the German character was of course the radio, which is why our modern day fascists like Limbaugh will fight the return of the Fairness Doctrine "til the last dog dies". 18 months ago I took on the Conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, who had just published a book called Liberal Fascism which was the Right's attempt to push back against the fascist label that had been pinned on them since the 1930's. Goldberg came back at me with a pitiful rejoinder and after I replied he took his ball and went home pouting. But now this same stupid trope has been adopted by people with a far bigger megaphone than Goldberg and with even less tolerance for dissent from their crack-brained ideology.

When ever I see a pictures of 70 year old white guys on medicare protesting at town hall meetings about "no government health care" or "socialized medicine", I have to wonder about the strange Vulcan Mind Meld Beck and Limbaugh have over their audience. And then I think about Santayana's epic quote, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." It's obvious that both Limbaugh and Beck were partying too hard in their youth to ever show up at history class. And now they are passing on their ignorance to millions of listeners a day.

Maybe Peter Orzag should challenge Glenn Beck to a debate on Health care. I'll bet you $1000 Beck wouldn't take the challenge.

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I've Got Facts On My Side & You've Got Glenn Beck On Your Side! Rep Rick Larsen Town Hall
(Nicole:) Our very own CSpanJunkie attended Rep. Rick Larsen's town hall meeting on health care in Everett, Washington. By all accounts, it wasn't one of the crazed mob scenes they love showing us on the cable channels.

However, the addition of decorum did not bring with it the addition of sense. And in response to one person's dutiful recitation of misinformation, courtesy of the right wing, Rep. Larsen retorted with a classic line I think should be part of every Democratic congressman's repertoire:
CITIZEN: I have two real concerns about the nationalized health care insurance.

Why are all Americans forced into a government-run health care and insurance plan when only 46 million out of 312 million are uninsured? Do you want me to break down how those insured are found? 12 million are illegal immigrants, 17 million earn $50,000 plus and choose not to have inurance. 8.8 million without insurance for four months or less…or more because they’re between…they’re unemployed and between jobs. 8.2 are chronically uninsured. That’s a total of 46 million people. I’d be willing for the government to buy insurance policies for the 8.2 million chronically uninsured, but the other 37.8 million are not the responsibility of the American citizens and I will…I’m not willing…and I am unwilling to throw my present health care away for them.

LARSEN: Thanks. Thanks, Jim. Thanks for your input and your comments. With regards to the first comment about being forced to buy health care, I’ll say it again, not ‘till I’m blue in the face, I may get cold enough and I’ll look blue in the face here tonight, but it won’t be until I’m blue in the face. The bill does not force anybody to buy health care, to change…to change….I’m sorry, the bill does not force anybody to change their health care plan. If you’re in a plan, you will not be forced into the public option. You will not be forced into the health insurance exchange. Now folks will say that’s not true, but I’ve got facts on my side and you’ve got Glenn Beck on your side. It’s just not going to play off that way.
Bravo, Rep. Larsen...let's keep marginalizing Beck and his ilk in the exact same way over and over until even these Fox News viewers are too embarrassed to cite him.
 
President Beck: I Wouldn’t Detain Terror Suspects, I’d ‘Shoot Them All In The Head’
Today on his radio show, CNN host Glenn Beck expressed his disdain of the recent Supreme Court ruling granting terror suspects the right to challenge their detention in civilian courts, exclaiming that if he were President, he would do away with detaining and prosecuting terrorism suspects altogether. Instead, a President Beck would “shoot them all in the head [if] we think that they are against us.”
BECK: We’re going to shoot them all in the head. If we think that they are against us, we’re going to shoot them and kill them, period. Because that’s the only thing we’ve got going for us is we can put them away and get information. If we can’t put them away and they’re going to use our court system, kill them.
If Beck were President since 9/11, he would have killed many innocent people. Here are some of those held in Guantanamo who have either been cleared of charges or were mistakenly detained. For example:
– The “Tipton Three” who were forced into false confessions and later released.

– Huzaifa Parhat, an ethnic Uighur Chinese national swept up by the U.S. forces in Afghanistan, who was improperly classified as an “enemy combatant.” Parhat has been recommended for release by U.S. officials, while a military tribunal found no evidence that Parhat was a member of any radical group.

– Over 30 former Guantanamo detainees who have already been released.
Not only would such a policy undoubtedly kill innocents, but as former Navy general counsel Alberto Mora has said, the belligerent treatment of terror suspects increases the recruitment of “insurgent fighters into combat.”

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Since I shun extremists from both sides of the aisle, not sure about Beck and his program, except I don't plan to view it. My question has always been: what do they suggest we all do for the next 38+ months? Should we just sit down and refuse to let any of Obama's efforts succeed? Would that make us "Buckaroos for Beck?"

I just want things to improve. Complaining about everything that is attempted by the current administration; having a "refuse to cooperate, no matter what" attitude; hoping for failure by the current admin, no matter how it affects the rest of us; is this what this guy advocates? If so, count me out!

I figure that this guy's words are Gospel to some of the posters here. Good luck with that. Worship in church, but hope for failure for your country's leader; what a concept! :crazy:
 
Jimi Hendrix speaks words of wisdom. Rock on, Jimi. :rockon:
 
Since I shun extremists from both sides of the aisle, not sure about Beck and his program, except I don't plan to view it. My question has always been: what do they suggest we all do for the next 38+ months? Should we just sit down and refuse to let any of Obama's efforts succeed? Would that make us "Buckaroos for Beck?"

I just want things to improve. Complaining about everything that is attempted by the current administration; having a "refuse to cooperate, no matter what" attitude; hoping for failure by the current admin, no matter how it affects the rest of us; is this what this guy advocates? If so, count me out!

I figure that this guy's words are Gospel to some of the posters here. Good luck with that. Worship in church, but hope for failure for your country's leader; what a concept! :crazy:

Yea, complaining constantly isnt going to solve the problem. I sure want things to improve .
 
Hence, 2010, folks.

If one doesn't view it, one isn't informed to make their own decisions. I'm still out on Glenn Beck since I've not paid any attention until last month. He does make some interesting points. Though I'd be interested in Faire Joure's response on exactly what are some of the things he disagree with that of Glenn Beck's opinions?

One thing for sure, spending into oblivion isn't the answer which guarantees the demise of our economic viability unless you happen to be a fan of hyper-inflation. Which would make you even more of a crank than a sane person.

Though it's kind of odd to post a Jimi Hendrix's quote and yet go about attacking individuals in AD in a variety but in a not so subtle and creative rant. Besides, Jimi Hendrix is dead.
 
I'll just start at the top.

I do consider you a radical if you are opposed to the idea that all humans deserve medical treatment.

I do consider you a radical if you do not believe that all people, regardless of their sexual orientation, deserve the same rights.

I don't have shame for spending money on programs that help people.

I would gladly pay 50% in taxes if it meant that every child had health care, every child had preschool, the homeless had places to stay, and people had jobs.
 
I'll just start at the top.

I do consider you a radical if you are opposed to the idea that all humans deserve medical treatment.

I do consider you a radical if you do not believe that all people, regardless of their sexual orientation, deserve the same rights.

I don't have shame for spending money on programs that help people.

I would gladly pay 50% in taxes if it meant that every child had health care, every child had preschool, the homeless had places to stay, and people had jobs.

Only if we have plenty of money to spread around except the problem is the fact that if we cannot even control the massive fraud and waste in Medicare that costs us taxpayers about $60 billion dollars a year then what make YOU think the govt can do this on a scale that's 10 times bigger? They are certainly not that efficient in doing those kinds of things. That should be readily apparent to you and anybody else. That alone certainly does not inspire confidence. And by doing so ensures greater and greater medical rationing. We don't even have enough doctors to over see "suddenly" an additional surge of 30 million people. Even this upcoming health bill does not cover every single person in the U.S. if you look at it closely again. There will be millions still not covered.

Again, which ones exactly are you in disagreement with Beck's?
 
I'll just start at the top.

I do consider you a radical if you are opposed to the idea that all humans deserve medical treatment.

I do consider you a radical if you do not believe that all people, regardless of their sexual orientation, deserve the same rights.

I don't have shame for spending money on programs that help people.

I would gladly pay 50% in taxes if it meant that every child had health care, every child had preschool, the homeless had places to stay, and people had jobs.

Now, something we agree on 100%!!! :D
 
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