Teen Questioned Over Bush Threats on MySpace

[Cloggy]

It is important to consider the messenger (source) and the message. It goes to credibility.

So, that's the opinion of two lawyers. There are probably just as many lawyers who would say the opposite, or yet a third opinion. That doesn't prove anything.

Wiggling wiggling....

Sure, opinion....

It's the interpretation of a law... A lawyer could defend the torture of a 15-year old USA citizen with this law!!
So... your child or grandchild can be tortured... !! By law!!

 

[jag]

I see nothing wrong that a girl rant her feeling about Iraq war... It's normal that the people express their anger feeling.. .Its about vent and rant... It doesn't mean that they want kill Bush... I don't blame her for angry because poor soliders have to die for NOTHING...

What they did to a teen is verbally abuse!!!!!

Threats to kill the POUSA are taken very seriouly. Even by 14 yo's who've been known to use schools as the OK corral.

But you do have a point, zero tolerance has gotten 5 or 6 yo's supended from school for a few days just because they've brought a plactic toy soldier with a plastic gun connected to it. the things I'm talking about are very small but I'm sure the 5 yo was very threatening. (do I need to include a sarcasm tag here?)

Why do people who say they're for peace think it's ok to run around saying Kill ____, kill ____ what is so peaceful about that? If a teen in school would say I could just kill (teacher or student of choice) using it as an expression not really meaning it. that teen will be kicked out of school fast. This teen threatened the POUSA only got a talking to. She should just shut up and get on with her life, boo hoo the secret service checked her out. Whaaaaaaaaaaa...... . Oh and she does have the right to protest the war if she really wants to that's not where she screwed up.

 

[jag]

Bush is whine baby boy!
Look how many popluation peoples who hater "Bush is die"... Have he looked them lately? Why he choosen over 14 yrs old young girl... ?

Wha.. a joke!

I bet 14 yrs old is trying to practical jokes that's all what make Bush went out of their mind and loose marbles instant.. seeing "Kill".

(wha.. a dumb Bush's brain moments?)

You do have the intelligance to know that any threat to ANY president, even Clinton is taken seriously and the SAME treatment would have taken place? Huh?

 

[jag]

man.... I asked one of agent if can take pic of me with Kerry, he refused, so lucky a undercover state trooper and state senator took it for me... .

Ahh so superior of you. DO you realize that if a threat was made against Kerry the agent you are mocking is expected to come between the threat and KErry? That the agent is expected to possibly give his life for someone he may or may not like? It's not the agents job to take pictures his job is to constantly scan the crowd for threats to you canidate. My guess would be Kerry would have wanted the agent to so the crowd scanning and not take sovenier pictures.

 

[jag]

Wiggling wiggling....

Sure, opinion....

It's the interpretation of a law... A lawyer could defend the torture of a 15-year old USA citizen with this law!!
So... your child or grandchild can be tortured... !! By law!!

Oh God Cloggy, I think that on this topic you and I are miles apart and I'm extremely happy my Great grandparents left Norway way back when.

There have been no 15 yo citizens tortured in front of their parents. I have no doubt that is some Islamic terrorist got ahold of one of my children that they'd have no problem cutting off my child's head. If supporting the war on terror makes me a bad person so be it. Yes I'm aware that Bush is to 'blame' for everything. I do wonder why the democrats get a pass like they are getting the the Foley scandel. The little known fact is so far all emails and Im's from foley to the 'page' were made after the 'page' turned 18. Another little known fact is there was no actual sexual contact, unlike that of a certain democrat senetor who is remained in office following the actual sexual act with a minor page in the 80's. So those who look at the party of democrats as 'tolerant' just remember that for whatever reason they never seem to hold their representatives to the laws the rest of us have to follow? THey don't seem to care if they elect people who actually are pedophiles. So when looking at 'evidence' as reba says you have to look at all sides. I personally don't like the patriot act because it does interfere with peoples rights. If you want true genocide just look a Somalia and the Balkans. Personally I think that Clinton and NATO should have left what's his name in control of the Balkans, now we have Islamic's slaughtering the Christians and nothing is being done by anyone to stop it since Islam is the religion of peace? ahhhhhhhh as I said you and i will have to agree to disagree..... btw I do believe that is was not the US that murdered that popular gay canidate there in your area of the world, wonder which religion that was?

 

[Cloggy]

Oh God Cloggy, I think that on this topic you and I are miles apart and I'm extremely happy my Great grandparents left Norway way back when. ............

I have never said it happened. I'm saying that the new law allows for it. (Actually, specialists say that... USA-specialists.)

 

[jag]

I have never said it happened. I'm saying that the new law allows for it. (Actually, specialists say that... USA-specialists.)

actually I think it's sad that you think that all experts are the same. (i shoudln't say the same but shoudl say it as all experts are experts) Anyone can go to school here and get a degree in anything they want, then call themselves 'experts'. That's one freedom we have. Happens all the time.

EX not having to do with wars and stuff....pete singer is a expert in his field. (medical ethicist or some such thing) he thinks it's perfectly ok to terminate the lives of babies up to one month of age if they have birth defects. I disagree. I do believe if the child is dying because of a type of defect drs have never found a way to keep them alive that quality of life should be maintained (pain control and such) until nature takes is course, sometimes despite our medical knowledge it's best to let thing take their course, but this isn't what singer is talking about.

he also thinks it perfectly ok to terminate the lives of elderly or disabled family members when whoever is caring for them decides they are a burden (or not enjoying quality of life) . (I disagree, if he had his way my daughter would have been terminated because of her extra 21st chromosome, I assure you and him that she is human and does have feelings)

so think a bout this in terms of a deaf baby being born to a hearing parent, because that baby is not perfect and wouldn't have the quality of life missing one of it's senses a parent should have the choice to terminate that babies life up til the age of 1 month. after all it's the 'parent's right. (while we would disagree there are people like pete singer think the only 'ethical' solution is death)

And that is a slippery slope that euthanasia can lead to.

(oh and I have to add this as an edit) that anyone can be an expert but as my example shows that doesnt mean they know what they're talking about.

 

[Mayberry]

She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand.

Since when is wanting to kill someone characteristic of a "peace-loving person?" I missed that memo.

"They yelled at me a lot," she said. "They were unnecessarily mean."

I think the feds were justified in doing this even if they knew that she obviously wasn't a threat to the president's well-being. Just like when a kid steals candy from the store. Even if the kid is the cutest little tot you've ever seen, most parents want you to act really mad so the kid will learn a lesson. Bet she won't ever make a death threat again, huh?

Also, the kids that do this stuff now are the ones that quite possibly will be doing dangerous things like this later when they actually have the means by which to do so. Just because the puppy's cute now doesn't mean it won't bite later.