Strong Christian Message

Status
Not open for further replies.

Heath

Active Member
Joined
May 31, 2005
Messages
8,069
Reaction score
1
Very Strong Christian Message

I got this in my e-mail and this is a very serious e-mail.

Shalom Fellow Warriors,

There has been a subject I have been wanting to write on for many weeks but finally have had the release from THE MASTER. It is a deep and very controversial subject even though it has strong Scriptural precedence. Why would a subject that has so many references in the OT and NT be so controversial today? It is very simple...the majority of believers I have ministered to the last four years are lazy, slothful, unevangelistic, and resistant to change when the light of God's glory is shined into their lifestyles. They have created for themselves their own "home entertainment centers" of compiled itching ear messages that agree with their embedded sensuality. Thus when they are exposed by the light of God's absolute and nonnegotiable Scriptural commandments...they harden, stiffen, and then attack or write-off those of us who are ruthlessly trying to snatch them from the fires of deception and the portal of spiritual adultery with this world system!

And herein "lies" the controversy...they think they are securely saved! They think they are governed by the Holy Spirit! They enjoy what feels good and hate what challenges and corrects! And I'm talking not just about evangelicals but tongue talking, "Spirit" filled, full gospel believers who love spontaneous worship and the latest conferences that appear throughout the land!!!!

Now I do not say these things out of pride or think I'm some Old Testament prophet that some of these people accuse me of being. Abba knows my heart and I never wanted to say these things or even be in this ministry. But in a vision of the night several years ago, God came to me and said if that I do not preach and proclaim these things that He has allowed me to mine out of the Scriptures that He was going to kill me. Thus, I have been running as fast as I can to obey Him in this hour and do not want to be dead!

Let me begin by asking a few questions to you all....

1) Do you think Sodomy and alcoholism is sin?
2) Do you think it is wrong when the largest "spirit" filled church in the USA can't define what is wrong with homosexuality on National TV?
3) Do you think that the most advertised prophetic ministry of the 1980- 2003 and a "father" to many of the current prophetic ministries that are operating today should have been allowed to be laying hands on people and prophesying world events when immediately after those services they are returning to their hotel rooms and communizing orgies of sodomy and drunken debauchery for many years on end?
4) Do you think there should be a higher standard upheld to prophetic words that have been spoken by well advertised ministries that have never come to pass...but seem to be continually swept over and forgotten about...and thus the show must continue?
5) Are you somewhat confused as to who is right and who is wrong when it comes to the pulpits that are working overtime in North America to say that Hurricane Katrina was not an act of God but was just a coincidence of nature?
6) D0 you ever get sick to your stomach watching some of the current Christian TV programing?
7) Do you ever wonder what happened to all of the wonderful revival meetings that we experienced in the 1990's? What happened to all of that momentum that was featured on the front pages of popular Christian magazines? Why is strife, division, divorce, and greed so rampant in those renewal/river camps today?
8) Do you ever wonder why so many seemingly strong "Christians" are falling away into lifestyles of hideous sin and open lawlessness?
9) Do you ever wonder why there is no other ministries out there that are really taking on terrorism with front- line operations and zealous offensive zeal for the innocent who are about to be savagely murdered by Islamic fascists serial killers?
10) Do you ever wonder why ministries that say they love Israel yet are so cowardly weak when it comes to evangelizing the Jewish people? (very popular showing now)!
11) Where is the outrage among God's people about these horrific things that are happening now in the House of God??????

There could be many more questions I could ask you'all today but I think this will suffice this morning.... (Selah).

The point I'm trying to get at in this limited electronic forum is that there is a built in resistance by even some of you reading these emails over the last few weeks to deal with these subjects and mine out in prayer why the North American church "Spirit" filled community is so gracious and forgiving but absolutely undiscerning, gullable, and then so reactionary to anyone who starts asking these honest questions!

Time does not permit me this morning to write a long detailed account (with many confirming illustrations and true testimonies) to this controversial phenomena happening today. I see it as I "crisis-cross" throughout this Western Hemisphere and there is a strong opposition to anything that has to do with calling sin...sin! Now, I would be wrong in saying there is not a solid remnant of believers out there who really passionately love Jesus...because there is! And I have met many of them who have not bowed their knee or kissed Baal on the lips! Who truly represent an Elijah/Elisha company who are preparing a roadway for the return of our Master! But why is it that this group has such large turnover rate and God has to keep replacing this group with new believers and fresh blood????

Well, I'm convinced that we are in a major shakeup and shakedown by God's divine sovereignty in what we call current North American "churchianity". It is radical, ruthless, and the most detailed audit from Heaven that has ever been witnessed in two thousand years since the day of Pentecost when Peter preached " Save yourselves from this perverse generation" (Acts 2:40)!

I will be talking about these 911 warnings in our upcoming meetings the next few months and in future emails so let me first leave you with what you will be experiencing in more of a heightened state in the days ahead. If you have not already experienced this new anointing...then you probably will very soon as you seek the Master with all of your hearts and souls. And what we are entering into is can be coined as the Lamentation anointing of Jeremiah!

We see this anointing throughout the Scriptures and especially in the weeping intercession of Jesus earthly ministry over Jerusalem. This carries over into the Pauline epistles as Paul continually writes about the sufferings of Messiah and his "care" for the early churches. Fellow warriors, this is deep waters and not for the weak of heart! I highly recommend you read this below portion of Scripture and understand that this is repeating itself even now....

In conclusion this morning, do not think just because you are a New Testament Spirit filled believer in Jesus that your spiritual radar is calibrated correctly and that you are in right standing with God....

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23 (King James Version)

...And I think that is the greatest delusion and deception today. Many good intended believers think they can get away with their own lifestyle; go to a dead old wineskin churches; or just meet in their homes and feed off Christian TV; and they are going to be OK in this late hour! You cannot do anymore theological interpretive gymnastics with the commandments of the Scriptures....period!!!! Black is black and white is white!!!!!

Let the weeping and supplications well up within you now for the slain Daughter of Zion!!!!!!

The line of judgment has begun!!!! Oh God in your wrath...remember mercy!!!!!!!

In His zeal for His House of Shekinah Glory,

Scott Holtz

PS, It is time for more Gideon warriors to join us in this epic battle. It is time to rise up and quit hiding from the Midianite invaders Oh mighty men and women of valor!!!

Rivers In The Desert International - Revival Website
 
oooops! I fell asleep here while surf lucky laptop does not fall down.
 
oooops! I fell asleep here while surf lucky laptop does not fall down.

Now that you are actually awake, take the time to read this and your eyes will be opened then you will understand why there has to be a firm line drawn somewhere.
 
At my work you can get fired for religious harassment! Thank god my work have that policy and I do NOT need these religious craps!

Good night, Im going bed now!
 
At my work you can get fired for religious harassment! Thank god my work have that policy and I do NOT need these religious craps!

Good night, Im going bed now!

She never said anything about being at work. She was at home on her laptop and fell asleep.

Of course, use common sense. You think I am that stupid huh? Well Hi, I work too. In the old days people could talk about religious matters at work and it was a normal part of being at work everyday ......

but think about it really hard, now satan surely must be shouting with joy and rubbing his hands with glee. Religious harrassment Great !!!! Ban the little kids in school from saying the Pledge of Allegiance !!!! Great !!!!! Ten Commandments on public display being taken down at the courthouse right before a man who has just commited murder on the street. Great !!!! There are alternative translations of the Bibles that does not show the true Word of God Great !!!!! I mean I can go and go on about it. You get my point.
 
Heath, clearly, you don't understand the U.S. Constitution. If you want a theocractic country, move to Middle East. I am sure you'll be more at home there.
 
Heath, clearly, you don't understand the U.S. Constitution. If you want a theocractic country, move to Middle East. I am sure you'll be more at home there.

AMEN! I'm so TIRED of people dragging a god into laws, public policy, etc. America is SO not the land of the free. It's the land of the Christians. If you're not Christian, you're not free.
 
I don't understand the tone of some of the posters in this thread. If you don't want to be "harrassed" by Christian threads, the solution is simple. Don't read them. No one is forcing anyone to read Heath's thread. He's not your boss at work, so it's not required reading. He didn't "sneak" this thread into an inappropriate forum like auto or sports. You knew what you would be reading. So?

Of course, God's Word does convict hearts, and it can make people feel uncomfortable. Maybe it's time for each one to examine his/her own heart.

I don't agree with everything Heath posts, nor do I always agree with the way he presents his topics. So what. I don't agree with other posters about various topics either but I don't whine about them making their posts. As for the topics that turn me off or don't interest me, I just ignore them. I don't have the time or desire to read every post of every thread. Life's too short.

Discussing and debating points of his post would be interesting but I don't think there is any value in just stating that Heath shouldn't post his thread. I think that's just a cop out.
 
No one is forcing anyone to read Heath's thread. He's not your boss at work, so it's not required reading. He didn't "sneak" this thread into an inappropriate forum like auto or sports. You knew what you would be reading. So?QUOTE]

My my, Reba. How astute of you. You MUST be a genius. Thomas Edison has NOTHING on you. I say, have you filed a patent on your intellect so that no one can steal your ideas? I'm simply ASTOUNDED. You should totally run for president. Think of the good you could do with your GENIUS!

:::big gay eyeroll:::

You're totally right. I don't have to read these posts. But when I go into "The Closet" section and have to read Christian rantings about how I'm going to hell, then your argument doesn't hold water. Apparently, it's an open forum and I can read and post where I like. Thanks.
 
...You're totally right. I don't have to read these posts. But when I go into "The Closet" section and have to read Christian rantings about how I'm going to hell, then your argument doesn't hold water. Apparently, it's an open forum and I can read and post where I like. Thanks.
I never said that you can't read or post wherever you want. Of course you (and everyone else) can.

The same goes for Heath. If he wants to post a "debatable" thread about Christian topics in the spirituality debates section then why do people react like Heath is doing something inappropriate? Can't we debate the points of the topic rather than debating whether or not he should even post?

When you go into "The Closet" section, are you forced to read "Christian rantings" or can you skip over them? Or can you debate them there?

Of course, no one should directly tell anyone that "you are going to hell" in any post. That would be a personal attack.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top