Space Shuttle Blast off!!!!

read it again raven, the link you post is talking about nasa agree with Yahoo and Akamai to provide webcasting and didnt mention anything about blast off.

For the STS-114 mission, NASA has signed partnership agreements with Akamai and Yahoo! to provide webcasting of NASA Television well beyond the agency's normal capacity. Yahoo! Inc., of Sunnyvale, Calif., will provide live streaming of NASA TV mission coverage in Windows Media format and be the only other official online host of NASA TV footage beyond the NASA website. Akamai, of Cambridge, Mass., will stream NASA TV for RealPlayer and deliver all other Web content during the mission
 
I have serious doubts about the safety of our rocket ships. I really think they are cutting corners and neglecting safety in order to further space exploration. This is a dangerous game we are playing. A dangerous game.
 
yup I do agree oceanbreeze, I recalled that I heard on news that they will plan lanuch in 2 1/2 year from now.
 
NASA is very importaint.We need to explore whats out there.Our world is dying and its gonna be another 500 years before were unable to live on earth. We really need discover whats on mars and beyond our solar system.I have visons about star trek and one day in the future it could become reality.We cant just say well the shuttle blew up we cant go up in space for 2 1/2 years.What if one of the columbus ships sank during the new world? Would columbus say"" well one of our ships sank it will be 3 years before i can prove the world is round."" We have to move forward.
 
everyone know nasa is important, raven you misunderstand what I said. I didnt said they CANT go in space for 2 1/2 years. I said that I HEARD that they will plan to LAUNCH rocket with crew in 2 1/2 years. They are taking time to check and improve parts in the rocket specially in gas pocket area and evenually it take time to get money to spend on the repairs and preparation for the rocket launch by the time they are ready. I am sure they are check everything to be sure there safety for the crew's sake.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
NASA is very importaint.We need to explore whats out there.Our world is dying and its gonna be another 500 years before were unable to live on earth. We really need discover whats on mars and beyond our solar system.I have visons about star trek and one day in the future it could become reality.We cant just say well the shuttle blew up we cant go up in space for 2 1/2 years.What if one of the columbus ships sank during the new world? Would columbus say"" well one of our ships sank it will be 3 years before i can prove the world is round."" We have to move forward.

Space exploration is important, but not at the cost of human safety.
 
Shiva said:
everyone know nasa is important, raven you misunderstand what I said. I didnt said they CANT go in space for 2 1/2 years. I said that I HEARD that they will plan to LAUNCH rocket with crew in 2 1/2 years. They are taking time to check and improve parts in the rocket specially in gas pocket area and evenually it take time to get money to spend on the repairs and preparation for the rocket launch by the time they are ready. I am sure they are check everything to be sure there safety for the crew's sake.

Generally, they do that after every trip into space. They have to appear as if they are doing something, but I don't know. I still think they cut corners and are pushing the space program forward despite data that indicates that some of the materials used to build these rockets are faulty. Look at what happened to Challenger back in 1986. Faulty mechanics caused that shuttle to explode. The flaws were alledgedly corrected, and nobody thought it would happen again, but guess what? It did! Two years ago, another shuttle exploded after take off. Guess what the cause was again...faulty mechanics. Therefore, I propose that something is up in Dodge, and we better pay attention. Otherwise, people might start filing suits the next time somebody dies.
 
Its risky business.Men risked their lives at sea to help prove columbus is right to world is round.So men and women should risk their lives so the future would be better for man.Remember the begining theme for star trek?
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Its risky business.Men risked their lives at sea to help prove columbus is right to world is round.So men and women should risk their lives so the future would be better for man.Remember the begining theme for star trek?

That's wasn't the point I was making. There's a difference between neglible risk and NASA purposely cutting corners. We've had two explosion attributed to faulty mechanics. That's hardly neglible risk-taking on the part of the astronauts.
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Generally, they do that after every trip into space. They have to appear as if they are doing something, but I don't know. I still think they cut corners and are pushing the space program forward despite data that indicates that some of the materials used to build these rockets are faulty. Look at what happened to Challenger back in 1986. Faulty mechanics caused that shuttle to explode. The flaws were alledgedly corrected, and nobody thought it would happen again, but guess what? It did! Two years ago, another shuttle exploded after take off. Guess what the cause was again...faulty mechanics. Therefore, I propose that something is up in Dodge, and we better pay attention. Otherwise, people might start filing suits the next time somebody dies.

I thiink the point you are missing is that space travel is inherently risky. We've reduced the risk quite a bit with the science we have today. There will never be ZERO risk -- the astronauts and their families know this. There will never come a time when our space vehicles are perfect ('no faulty mechanics") and never have a chance to lose any 'nauts.

Therefore, if people die in the valiant search for more knowledge and exploration, so be it. I'd be happy to be a part of that sacrifice, and I'd be fine with my kids doing it too. The loss of life is a sad thing, but it can't be something to stop us from advancing humanity.
 
yeah I agree with dennis on that point. Even the part is once fixed can have same problem over again. Once that fixed wont stay on forever, Never know when old problem or new problem show up. It would be NICE to have safety trip on every launch but They cant promise that.
 
Dennis said:
I thiink the point you are missing is that space travel is inherently risky. We've reduced the risk quite a bit with the science we have today. There will never be ZERO risk -- the astronauts and their families know this. There will never come a time when our space vehicles are perfect ('no faulty mechanics") and never have a chance to lose any 'nauts.

Therefore, if people die in the valiant search for more knowledge and exploration, so be it. I'd be happy to be a part of that sacrifice, and I'd be fine with my kids doing it too. The loss of life is a sad thing, but it can't be something to stop us from advancing humanity.

I know there's a risk to space travel. There's risks nearly everywhere, but it doesn't help when you cut corners on safety protocols. This is what I'm saying. NASA is more concerned with getting the shuttle up than they are about the safety of the people onboard shuttle.
 
Theres a risk everything you do. You drive your car youre taking a risk.Youre walking down in new york city youre taking a risk. Youre flying on an airplane youre taking a risk. Nothing is safe these days.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Theres a risk everything you do. You drive your car youre taking a risk.Youre walking down in new york city youre taking a risk. Youre flying on an airplane youre taking a risk. Nothing is safe these days.

No kidding. So, you want to add indifference to the mix? I don't think so.
 
Shuttle fleet has been grounded because of the external fuel tank videos showing insulation flying off. They spent billion$ trying to fix this problem.

I think theres a problem with the space race turning into a pissing contest.

Richard
 
Oceanbreeze said:
I know there's a risk to space travel. There's risks nearly everywhere, but it doesn't help when you cut corners on safety protocols. This is what I'm saying. NASA is more concerned with getting the shuttle up than they are about the safety of the people onboard shuttle.

Okay, so you're stating that they're "cutting corners" on safety protocols. What evidence do you have of this?

Is it that the parts are being built by the lowest bidder?

Is it that the government won't give them any money to build anything safer or better?

Is it that no one cares about anything except getting that shuttle up into space? People LOVE to watch the launches -- they don't care about the actual mission or the landing -- they want to see FLAMES AND EXPLOSIONS AND ROCKET SPEEDS -- but quickly forget the mundane scientific tests or building of the space center or the orbiting of the earth.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Its risky business.Men risked their lives at sea to help prove columbus is right to world is round.So men and women should risk their lives so the future would be better for man.Remember the begining theme for star trek?
erm...star trek's set in the 23rd century...and it's science fiction.

You really need to go out some more.
 
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