Senate to close ObamaCare loophole for illegal immigrants,media claims does not exist

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All one has to do is read the Congressional Research Service report, a non-partisan group that provides information to Congress, that outlines quite clearly the lack of enforcement mechanisms in HR 3200.

All of a sudden Democrats in Congress were able to "see" for the first time that something was missing from that bill and include proof of citizenship as a requirement??

It's only a measley 11 pages long. Not gonna kill you to read it for once.
http://ryanjames.us/HR3200NonCitizen.pdf

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American taxpayers spend nearly $100 million a year to fund the Congressional Research Service, a "think tank" that provides reports to members of Congress on a variety of topics relevant to current political events. Yet, these reports are not made available to the public in a way that they can be easily obtained. A project of the Center for Democracy & Technology, Open CRS provides citizens access to CRS Reports that are already in the public domain and encourages Congress to provide public access to all CRS Reports.

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All one, has to do is read post #27 for an explanation of legalities, and all one has to do is read HR3200 to see that is specifically states that illegal aliens will not be covered.:roll:
 
There is no enforcement mechanism in place.

All one has to do is insert the words "proof of citizenship" and then use the Code of Federal Regulation to follow the rules on what are the acceptable forms of proving one's citizenship as seen in 42 CFR Ch. IV (10–1–08 Edition), in § 435.407 - "Types of acceptable documentary evidence of citizenship."

The CRS is an authentic organization. They hold more credibility.
 
sallylou said:
Yea. :lol:

Kokonut, don't you ever get tired of hanging out in these threads? Do you ever want to venture out into a fun thread just for a laugh? Come on out! We have cookies! :cool2:
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There are several members who are like that. Some only go in the CI threads only while some go in the War and Political news only.
 
The health care reform, sponsored by Obama and democrats don't cover on illegal immigrants unless judge has interpret the bill if it does cover when illegal immigrants are sue after get deny for receive insurance under government, I don't trust congress research because bill could be complicated and when bill said don't cover on immigrants or no funds on abortion, period.

Right wing people need stand up and read the bill or I will consider them as little peas in their brain, even conservative protest are just garbage because many of them don't know about how government works and it is so tricky.
 
kokonut said:
There is no enforcement mechanism in place.

All one has to do is insert the words "proof of citizenship" and then use the Code of Federal Regulation to follow the rules on what are the acceptable forms of proving one's citizenship as seen in 42 CFR Ch. IV (10–1–08 Edition), in § 435.407 - "Types of acceptable documentary evidence of citizenship."

The CRS is an authentic organization. They hold more credibility.
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None of organization are authentic, man and CRS could be misled.
 
Um, it's pains me to ask you this. Do you know what CRS is?


The Congressional Research Service (CRS) works exclusively for the United States Congress, providing policy and legal analysis to committees and Members of both the House and Senate, regardless of party affiliation. As a legislative branch agency within the Library of Congress, CRS has been a valued and respected resource on Capitol Hill for nearly a century.

CRS is well known for analysis that is authoritative, confidential, objective and nonpartisan. Its highest priority is to ensure that Congress has 24/7 access to the nation's best thinking.
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CRS, misled? It is their job to analyze these things for Congress.
 
kokonut said:
Um, it's pains me to ask you this. Do you know what CRS is?



Congressional Research Service Employment Home Page - a government website!

CRS, misled? It is their job to analyze these things for Congress.
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I don't give a damn about how CRS works and I know judge could interpret the bill about cover the illegal immigrants if cover or not, stop to give a bunches of misled information.
 
Foxrac, you continue to not understand. In the bill there is no enforcement mechanism to prevent illegal aliens from getting health care. That's what CRS concluded. CRS is neutral, and non-partisan. That's why Democrats said they would include language in the bill that proof of citizenship is required. Last week on Friday, a few days after the "you lie!" episode forced the MSM to cover this and shined a light on Democrats and the lack of enforcement in the bill.

Ask yourself, why did Democrats all of sudden, two days after the "you lie!" episode, they said they'll add in a provision that proof of citizenship is required in order to receive health care?
 
kokonut said:
Foxrac, you continue to not understand. In the bill there is no enforcement mechanism to prevent illegal aliens from getting health care. That's what CRS concluded. CRS is neutral, and non-partisan. That's why Democrats said they would include language in the bill that proof of citizenship is required. Last week on Friday, a few days after the "you lie!" episode forced the MSM to cover this and shined a light on Democrats and the lack of enforcement in the bill.

Ask yourself, why did Democrats all of sudden, two days after the "you lie!" episode, they said they'll add in a provision that proof of citizenship is required in order to receive health care?
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You don't understand either, it already included in bill, period and I don't give a damn about CRS statement on bill so let judge handle it when illegal immigrant sue and I'm really doubt that they would get everything.

You are just find lame excuse that health reform should fail and lobbied yourself as right wing.
 
kokonut said:
Foxrac, you continue to not understand. In the bill there is no enforcement mechanism to prevent illegal aliens from getting health care. That's what CRS concluded. CRS is neutral, and non-partisan. That's why Democrats said they would include language in the bill that proof of citizenship is required. Last week on Friday, a few days after the "you lie!" episode forced the MSM to cover this and shined a light on Democrats and the lack of enforcement in the bill.

Ask yourself, why did Democrats all of sudden, two days after the "you lie!" episode, they said they'll add in a provision that proof of citizenship is required in order to receive health care?
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You fail to understand, not Foxrac. There is no enforcement mechanism in ANY BILL. Enforcement mechanisms are contained in separate documents.

You also seem to fail to understand that proof of citizenship is not required, nor does it state in the addendum that it will be required, in order to obtain health CARE. It states health COVERAGE.
 
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