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Science & Philosophy. Religion & Physics. XXIc.

The laws of physics and mathematics in all countries
of the world are identical, but religions - different.
Why?
Because the religion is not proved by the laws of physics and mathematics.
And unless it is possible?
In my book and on a site I approve that it is possible.
* * *
GOD and the MATERIAL WORLD.
Can we know anything concretely about God ?
Whether it is possible to explain religion with the help of the
physical and mathematical theorems?
Yes. It is possible.
Because to create all MATERIAL WORLD the God
could only working in any an absolute reference system
and only under any physical and mathematical laws.
* * *
Many of physics consider, that: " the Physics is first of all Vacuum. "
P. Dirac wrote:
" Тhe problem of the exact description of vacuum, in my opinion,
is the basic problem worth now before physics.
Really, if you can’t correctly describe vacuum,
how it is possible expect for the correct description something more complex? ".
It is completely correct.
Physics in Vacuum have groped true and condition
of infinite / eternal Vacuum characterized
with one simple physical parameter T=0K.
The philosophy of science begins from T=0K .
The physics begins from T=0K.
The religion begins from T=0K .
The origin of Existence begins from T=0K .
* * *
If you have time and desire, I ask you to visit my site:
http://www.socratus.com
Thanks.
Israel Sadovnik .
Socratus
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There cannot be a conflict between the science and religion.
The religion without the scientific proof - is unpersuasive.
The science, which is not taking into account religious bases - is hasty.
 
Socratus,

Wow, your thoughts really overwhelmed me because it is very, very hard for me to understand what the formulas mean. I'm really sorry that I can't understand.

Are you saying that Bible and science match?????? I still am trying to understand what you mean.

Anyway, YES God is real. The Bible is real - yes it is very hard to understand what the scriptures mean. I know that God uses the science and physic laws for the earth.

Momoftwo:)
 
There's no reason that what science tells us and what the Bible tell us can't both be completely true. Science tells us what and how--religion tells us who and why. :)
 
Rose Immortal said:
There's no reason that what science tells us and what the Bible tell us can't both be completely true. Science tells us what and how--religion tells us who and why. :)
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Rose Immortal,

Ahhhh, I got it!!:) Thanks for your comments!! Thanks!!:)

Momoftwo:)
 
You're welcome. :)

I have heard it said...I think it was the book of Romans?...that the nature of God is written right into the design of the universe. I've seen similar things in Job and Psalms. I have had moments of deep awe of God while studying chemistry, physics, math, and even biology. That's not by forcing any of the theories to be changed, but by looking at them as they are. I know many do not agree, but for me, the Big Bang and the command, "Let there be light!" are one and the same...two ways to describe the same miracle. The first tells me what physical laws God wrote and what mechanisms He used. The second tells me who did this--and why. :)
 
The Bible was right claiming that in the beginning God had created quantum of light as initial particle. But God has forgotten to explain physical properties of quantum of light; therefore scientists of all times were aimed to solve this secret. However, for many millenniums this secret remained "under seven seals ".
At the end of 10-th, beginning of the 20-th years of the XX century,
Sommerfeld wrote to Einstein: " I can help to develop only engineering of quanta.
You should construct its philosophy ".
However, Einstein did not manage to construct it.
All his life he dreamed to solve the mystery of light. However, at old age,
he had to state:
" All these fifty years of persistent speculations did not approach me to the answer
what light quanta is. Certainly, today everybody thinks that he knows the answer,
but he deceives himself. ".
This expression of the Einstein about a quantum of light is true even today.
Is not it strange?! The quantum of light is an actual particle, initial particle.
It plays a major role in nature. And we do not realize its essence.
How can human society look, if it does not perceive the bases of Genesis?
Can we call this society a full one?
The writer Arthur Kestler said concerning this, that such society goes by
"a track of dinosaurs". And "the track of dinosaurs" conducts into evolutionary impasse.
It will be lost before time if it does not understand its fundamental principles.
 
Once again about Diogenes.
They say that Diogenes illuminated faces of passers- by with his lantern
when there was bright light, speaking that he is searching for a man.
I am - Diogenes.
I search for the person.
I search for the reasonable person and to each I set a question:
“ Listen! Speed of a light quantum in Vacuum is a constant,
maximum, absolute quantity !
Why does everyone say that there is no absolute speed of motion?
The speed of this light quantum is absolute only in Vacuum,
in absolute Vacuum !
Why does everyone say that there is no absolute reference system? ”
Diogenes sets a question, and nobody can understand him, as always, in all times.
I realize a reason of this bewilderment.
You see nobody perceives, what is VACUUM.
You see nobody perceives, what is a Quantum of light.

What is a quantum of light?
Quantum of light is a particle and wave simultaneously.
Exact there is a simultaneity of space and time.
For me such explanation is unsatisfactory.
It just as to speak, that the logic information and
the senseless message are the same simultaneously.
To say half truth is worse then to say lie.
* * *
Quantum of light is a privileged particle.
Only the speed of a light quantum in Vacuum has
a maximal, constant, absolute quantity of c=1.
No other particle can travel with the speed c = 1.
If quantum of light flies always rectilinearly c=1, it is a mad one.
Is he really mad?

Two views on the space and time.
1.
There are an independent space and independent time.
We notice it on our planet - Earth.
2.
There is simultaneous union of space and time.
Herman Minkowski :
“ Henceforth, space by itself, and time by itself,
are doomed to fade away into mere shadows,
and only a kind of union of the two will preserve an independent reality.”
Question.
What is the “a kind of union of the two “?
The answer.
It is Vacuum. T=0K.

Logic.
Physicists do not dictate to Nature their laws.
Laws of nature are reality, which exists independently from the researcher,
and the person only perceives them. The nature develops from simple to difficult;
the evolution of the world goes from the lowest condition to the highest one.
Therefore, initial conditions of the origin of Genesis cannot be complex.
They should be elementary and simple, as a multiplication table: 2.2=4, 2.3=6 etc.
Such simple laws of nature can and should be realized by each person from a school bench.
 
And for those who are curious about his mention of "T=0K" --

He means Temperature = 0 Kelvin, which is the same thing as saying temperature equals absolute zero.

Absolute zero is the coldest anything can become.

(The more technical explanation--you can ignore this: a perfect crystal has zero entropy at a temperature of absolute zero)
 
Another way to explain absolute zero (correct me if I'm wrong)...it would be the temperature at which all movement ceases--a state of TOTAL changelessness.
 
Universe and Vacuum. Abstraction and reality .

Universe and Vacuum. Abstraction and reality .
Now we build the base of a science on abstract ideas.
The base of the classical mechanics is constructed on abstract
separate absolute space and abstract separate absolute time of Newton.
The base of thermodynamics is constructed on the abstract
ideal gas theory.
The base of the theory of radiation is constructed on
the abstract black body theory.
The base of SRT is constructed on the abstract theory
of four-dimensional space theory.
On this abstract base, physicists build a concrete building of
science and are surprised when they discover paradoxes in it.
But may be the abstract ideas are not abstract ones.
* * *
It is consider now, that absolute temperature of the Universe is Т=2,7К.
It is an absolute reference system (now).
But we all know that our Universe is expanding......
This temperature ( Т=2,7К ) is not constant, and continues to decrease and,
hence, in the future will decrease down to Т=0К.
* * *
In the physics models of the Vacuum have been created long time ago.
These are:
1) the Theory of ideal gas.
2) the Theory of absolutely black body.
3) Negative four-dimensional space (Minkowski space - SRT).
There is no need to discover America again,
to build new theories of the Vacuum.
If we want to understand Vacuum it is necessary to ask:
“ What a geometrical and physical parameters
the particles in Vacuum T=0K can have?”
 
Rose Immortal said:
Another way to explain absolute zero (correct me if I'm wrong)...it would be the temperature at which all movement ceases--a state of TOTAL changelessness.
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Definitely another way of saying it. :)
 
About absolute reference frame……

1 Ptolemee considered, that reference frame connected with the Earth
is absolute.
2. Copernicus proved, that reference frame connected with the Sun
is absolute.
3. Then they began to consider, that reference frame connected with far stars
is absolute.
4. Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with relict isotropic radiation
T = 2,7K is absolute.
And if has the scientific thought stopped in this point?
What is farther?
 
Why does God gives us brain? God gives each person different talents. Nothing wrong of being a scientist. But one thing is, they ut God aside and using their own intelligence. Yes, as some of u said that the Bible mentioned Gods creation is true. But God allows some people to use scientific studies of all kinds. But how everything works or made even start the very first spectacles is from God. There is no arguments. God controls all and everything in it honors God and created by Him. God doesn't put all the the solution like mathmatics and stuff, God gave us brains to use it. Not all are the same, God uses different on each individual. As book fo Psalms says, fools says there is no God. Inspite of intellectuals, but using their own intelligence is the sad thing. That's called stealing from God to lead people to look up to man instead of God. Now don't misunterstand me, there are many christians involves, but only difference christians pointing to God that create all of this. Smile
 
If you don't get it, don't worry. ;) (There's actually logic behind it, just look)

socratus said:
1 Ptolemee considered, that reference frame connected with the Earth
is absolute.
2. Copernicus proved, that reference frame connected with the Sun
is absolute.
3. Then they began to consider, that reference frame connected with far stars
is absolute.
4. Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with relict isotropic radiation
T = 2,7K is absolute.
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Pragmatists. Realists. Empiricists. I-didn't-inhale-ists.
Baloney armed with a writer and his keyboard--
yield clogged arteries. D=M/V falls at the last beat of the heart.
Passer Mortuus Est.
T=5,200K. Orbital semimajor axis, 1.4 million kilometers. Tilda. Not Gamma Orionis.
The sun killed. The sparrow died.
Not because Kuhn didn't say T=0K.

T=0K at "Funky Logic" -- que? Standard pressure, standard logic, "An apple has seeds, Taco Bell has seeds of evil. Therefore, Taco bell is also red."

After all, my erstwhile dear,
My no longer cherished,
Need we say it was not fallacy,
Now that fallacy is perished?

A False Analogy is available at your local used car dealership.
 
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That would be the other way around, I think. Time seems longer to a child than it does to an adult.

Then again, when it comes to knowledge and understanding of all things, we're tiny, tiny little infants.
 
Endymion said:
That would be the other way around, I think. Time seems longer to a child than it does to an adult.
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Tell that to me when I'm sitting through a 3-hour snorefest in Finance... ;)
 
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