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http://www.relayreview.com/

You can go there and look up caller's opinion on how excellent their service and each agency what gppd they do or what stink they are.

Please be honesty and do not abuse to leave bad rate without any point. It would make difficult for visitor who want to know why it's bad and good.
 
EDGE said:
http://www.relayreview.com/

You can go there and look up caller's opinion on how excellent their service and each agency what gppd they do or what stink they are.

Please be honesty and do not abuse to leave bad rate without any point. It would make difficult for visitor who want to know why it's bad and good.
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Relay Review seems interesting info. However, the Relay Review would not give you full info about the best of traditional relay service, Internet relay and video relay service.

1. How would I know if the individual would dial #711 in state even though she/she does not know which service would announce the name of Relay Company. :thumbd:

2. Come on. How would I know if Dlink videophone user never dials the Sorenson VRS? I am sure that Sorenson users would easily vote for one VRS. That is a very outsized advantage for Sorenson. Where is another Sorenson VRS competitor? :fu: That is major unfair to Dlink VRS.

3. If one individual vote a good vote for traditional relay service and bad service for IP relay, that would easily make confusion for the statistics for the same company. I am sure that FCC would not accept real statistics from Relay Review firm.

4. I thought Relay Review has highly intelligent business people. However, I do not have MBA yet...


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I'm starting to think that site IS biased.

I submitted NINE (9) additional relay providers yesterday. Guess what? They all were denied.

I've taken a screen shot of my new submissions so that there's proof they were submitted and denied.

The unlisted relay providers are:

MyRelay (go to www.myrelay.com, they're provided by Nordia)
SnapVRS (not yet a relay provider, but then again, neither is ClubDeaf)
LifeLinks VRS (again, not yet, but then why is ClubDeaf up there?_
Nordia (Canada Relay Provider, provides relay in California along with Sprint and MCI)
GoAmerica (the REAL company of i711, and merging with HOVRS)
MCI (the REAL company of IP RELAY, and merging with Verizon)
SBC (provides Kansas Relay and Michigan Relay, and is merging with at&t, not AT&T)
Royal National Institute for the Deaf (provides relay and VRS for the United Kingdom, they read english so they can submit their reviews online too!)
ACE (Australia relay, again, they use english and relay review is perfect for that!)
New Zealand Relay (provided by Sprint, but doesn't use American relay operators. New Zealand has their own relay center)
Canada Association for the Deaf (providing VRS for Canada)


Let's see if this relay review will reject them AGAIN and thus prove that they're biased.
 
After submitting, the guy changed the way that people can submit providers for adding to the site. He's now made it so you have to send emails. That means he saw the submissions, but declined to approve them. It's my opinion that the site is BIASED until they add those providers for FULL DISCLOSURE.
 
Dennis said:
After submitting, the guy changed the way that people can submit providers for adding to the site. He's now made it so you have to send emails. That means he saw the submissions, but declined to approve them. It's my opinion that the site is BIASED until they add those providers for FULL DISCLOSURE.
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Dennis, whom are you talking about?
 
mld4ds, as of this morning, on the relay review page, you would click on the "Want to add a provider?" link on the left hand side of the page, and it would bring up a box that you can put in the names of companies that you want added. Yesterday, I added 9 relay providers, some VRS, some IP only, some state relay, and other international relay services that SPEAK and WRITE English.

The idea is, if this truly is a "Relay Review!" site, then all relay providers should be represented. On top of that, when you submit the names, other people can see that they are "pending."

That's not the case. All 9 names above were rejected. Then the person who wrote the website changed it so that you have to email him in order to request an addition of a provider.


3 of those names are LEGITIMATE relay providers recognized by the FCC (Nordia/myrelay, and SBC). The other 6, I can understand if they were rejected, because they not necessarily U.S. providers, or not yet fully certified providers, or they're already up on the site (GoAmerica is the company for i711, MCI is the company for IP RELAY). There are more relay providers, but all the rest to my knowledge use non-english language, which would make it pointless for them to submit on an english only site.


The point is, the relay companies submitted are valid providers that need to be "reviewed." If the site isn't going to allow them to be up there, then the site is biased, and therefore that's proof of the site not living up to what it says it will do.

Several deaf people are advertising the site all around the 'net as "this will be the site that keeps the relay services in check!" It's already been found out that ClubDeaf's website has been designed by this site's designer. That means that this site is simply ADVERTISING for ClubDeaf.
 
For whatever it's worth, it's shaken a lot of ground up already and it's been very entertaining so far! Its making people make a lot of noise and that's what we need to spice up the deaf communities!

I commend the guys behind that site!

Richard
 
Nesmuth said:
For whatever it's worth, it's shaken a lot of ground up already and it's been very entertaining so far! Its making people make a lot of noise and that's what we need to spice up the deaf communities!

I commend the guys behind that site!

Richard
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I don't believe that one bit. No one is making "a lot of noise" about the site except those people like you. None of the relay companies nor the FCC are going to do anything based on what this site says. The only thing that will change is that people like will say things like that.
 
Dennis said:
I don't believe that one bit. No one is making "a lot of noise" about the site except those people like you. None of the relay companies nor the FCC are going to do anything based on what this site says. The only thing that will change is that people like will say things like that.
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That's called textbook narrowmindness and I seen this kind of talk before when deafy.com went up. Now look what it did to GLAD.

Cheers!
 
Dennis said:
I don't believe that one bit. No one is making "a lot of noise" about the site except those people like you. None of the relay companies nor the FCC are going to do anything based on what this site says. The only thing that will change is that people like will say things like that.
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I see that some of you on ADs were not sure of what to trust the contents at relayreview.com due to their bad judgement calls? Not a problem. I have another solid proof to "override" relayreview.com's inaccuracies.


Please note: The lower ranking number means more traffic (very popular). No data means "zero" visitor or even not a popular ones.


ATTVRS:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=attvrs.com
Rank: No Data (not a popular ones)

HOVRS:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=hovrs.com
Rank: No Data (not a popular ones)


Sprint VRS:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=sprintvrs.com
Rank: 1,926,635

Hamilton:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=hamiltonrelay.com
Rank: 1,743,782

Relayreview:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=relayreview.com
Rank: 1,482,765

CSDVRS:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=csdvrs.com
Rank: 691,547

i711:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=i711.com
Rank: 635,128

SorensonVRS:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=sorensonvrs.com
Rank: 374,693

IP-Relay:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=ip-relay.com
Rank: 168,330



Now, on the other hands:

AllDeaf:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/?url=alldeaf.com
Rank: 406,302 (Not bad! Way to go, Alex!)




Number #1 traffic:
YAHOO:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=yahoo.com
Rank: 1

Number #2:
MSN:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=msn.com
Rank: 2

Number #3:
GOOGLE:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?q=&url=google.com
Rank: 3



Oh by the way, Richard. Your agency's website ranking is:

OCDAC:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/related_links?q=&url=deafadvocacy.com
Rank: 4,176,111 (you're wayyyyy down at the sand silt bottom - i.e. very
deep shitty abyss)

Numbers do not lie.

Don't complain to me. Contact Alexa.com for their website traffic statistical accuracy.
 
Hey, I think AD readers need to take it easy on the Relay guys. Give them their due and respect. Don't abuse them nor try to force them to run and please you because they could end up resenting having to run and please you guys. Give Good Consideration to them please? They are really trying to do something good and worthwhile. Don't forget they are making business decisions that could affect the Deaf community, that is you and me all please too ? :)
 
qwerty123 said:
OCDAC:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/related_links?q=&url=deafadvocacy.com
Rank: 4,176,111 (you're wayyyyy down at the sand silt bottom - i.e. very
deep shitty abyss)

Numbers do not lie.

Don't complain to me. Contact Alexa.com for their website traffic statistical accuracy.
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Our site is made for serious people who need help. Not for people who like to play on other people's minds like what goes on here in AD. Therefore I aint complaining a bit because our site is not a playground site.

And it's very old news that Alexa even isnt accurate as it states in http://www.rlrouse.com/alexa-rankings.html because not all browsers worldwide have the Alexa Toolbar on them! So why the hell should we look up to Alexa?

Richard
 
Yes and also you have to remember that Deaf advocacy offices works with and deals with Deaf related issues all over the country that affects the Deaf community with real life issues and unfortunately , sometimes life and death situations too as well as happy situations too. ( not just in Deaf California ) This is not a very easy job to be in as the odds are stacked already against the Deaf community but positive progress and gains are being made and keeping tabs on the ones we lose and lessons learned for the next uphill battle for Deaf advocacy issues :)

p.s. both Deaf and hearing leaders and all of us need to work together for good Deaf advocacy issues to really happen too :)
 
The alexa readings tell me that a lot of deaf people have 3rd party software or even spyware in their pc's as they usually come secretly with 3rd party software. And I'm sure they dont even know they have the Alexa toolbar on their browsers either.

I find this amusing.

Richard
 
Nesmuth said:
Our site is made for serious people who need help. Not for people who like to play on other people's minds like what goes on here in AD. Therefore I aint complaining a bit because our site is not a playground site.

And it's very old news that Alexa even isnt accurate as it states in http://www.rlrouse.com/alexa-rankings.html because not all browsers worldwide have the Alexa Toolbar on them! So why the hell should we look up to Alexa?

Richard
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Richard, if you please look further within the rlrouse.com website, you would find it pretty appalling that they will help you how to boost traffic rating if you buy their service for $149.00! See it for yourself at:
http://www.rlrouse.com/seo-review.html

BTW, rlrouse.com appears to be a direct competitor of alexia.com. I like alexia.com because it comes with the rankings and graphs. All for free! rlrouse.com doesn't have those features openly and requires you to join (a paying service) to get those.

What's more rlrouse.com is a Christian-owned website. See it for yourself at: http://www.rlrouse.com/about.html . So if you need to hallelujah on the traffic rating about your website, it is your best place to go there.
 
qwerty123 said:
Numbers do not lie.

Don't complain to me. Contact Alexa.com for their website traffic statistical accuracy.
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You have misplaced your trust in that company. On their website, they state:

http://pages.alexa.com/prod_serv/traffic_learn_more.html

The traffic rank is based on three months of aggregated historical traffic data from millions of Alexa Toolbar users and is a combined measure of page views and users (reach)
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The Alexa Toolbar works only with the Internet Explorer browser.
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The Alexa Toolbar works only on Windows operating systems.
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The Alexa user base is only a sample of the Internet population.
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Traffic Rankings of 100,000+ should be regarded as not reliable because the amount of data we receive is not statistically significant.
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It's like ranking one person who visits one VRS site once and ranking another person who visits another VRS site twice as much higher. Alexa is NOT a good way to rate sites, in fact, they rate Yahoo much higher than Google? Bull. Biased.
 
qwerty123 said:
Richard, if you please look further within the rlrouse.com website, you would find it pretty appalling that they will help you how to boost traffic rating if you buy their service for $149.00!
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Yeah they'll boost your traffic sites by sending 5000+ clonebots a day to it for a fee.

I rather have a few hundred real folks visiting our websites than 5000+ robots each day.

My brother used to manage the botnets of one of those service businesses back then and thats the trick of the game they use.

Richard
 
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