Question about buy a car

diehardbiker said:
Can, but it does not mean it will guarantee that you will get accurate information.
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yep true... you pretty much need just one good trustworthy mechanic who can give it a close, thorough look. I know there are some mechanics who will give it a quick look and pretend he's looking at it thoroughly and then take your money. :mad2:
 
Milwaukee said:
If you are worry about insurance? GET old cars

my 94 geo tracker I get 30 mpg it 4wd I got for $600. I got my money out that in 2 months. Insurance cost me $50 per month for that geo.


sport car cost insurance more plus newer cars like 2000 or up cost more.



Ford focus with ztec engine are good. Saw 2003 focus go to junkyard before you say I check it have 365,000 miles I don't see Honda civic with that high miles most time 250,000 miles.

For Toyota I heard it good but they have problem with engine that get sludge so bad that you try change oil so often.

What about Chevy Malibu
they get 30 mpg and ride is comfy.

Or Saturn? My cousin have one I believe it 97 sl2 he have 323,000 miles it still run expect burn oil. he get 35 mpg with 5 speed manual. How he put that lot miles he was live in Georgia so he would drive to here almost every weekend.
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I was talking about SUV, insurance is trends to be high for under 25 years old, same with sport car and brand new car, even if you buy 2003 SUV then insurance would be still more costly.
 
Foxrac said:
Does people can issue a loan from bank when buy car from owners? I don't think so.
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you can but they will put a lien on your car. However... with this economy going on now.... getting a loan is pretty damn hard. Even my friend who makes $500,000 a year can't even get a mortgage!!!!! that's how bad it is right now....
 
Foxrac said:
It should be fit for you.
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of course. I plan on buying a used scooter since I will be moving to NYC in few months. Even though I have a motorcycle, scooter is still nice to have - small, easy to park anywhere even on illegal area, and I don't have to worry about it being stolen or scratched. :cool2:

sorry - i'm being off-topic
 
Foxrac said:
I was talking about SUV, insurance is trends to be high for under 25 years old, same with sport car and brand new car, even if you buy 2003 SUV then insurance would be still more costly.
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Not for me $50 per month in my parent name. I am sure if it was in my name it would be $150 for that geo.


Can you have your parent insurance that car and you pay them money?
 
Foxrac said:
What about 2000-2002 Honda Civic?

That's interesting about you gave a more detail about Honda Civic and I made narrow my choice to between Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla, I haven't make final decision but I do consider Honda Civic.

Thanks for great suggestion.
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sounds fine. My son's Civic EX is made in US with imported parts.
 
Originally Posted by Foxrac
What about 2000-2002 Honda Civic?

That's interesting about you gave a more detail about Honda Civic and I made narrow my choice to between Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla, I haven't make final decision but I do consider Honda Civic.
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The generation of the Honda Civic I have is from 1996-2000. The redesigned model was 2001 to 2005. I don't think you really need a car that can go to 200k miles because many people don't go that far on average, unless you commute 100 miles a day for a few years. Not many people get to keep the same car for a lifetime. My friend has a 2001 VW Passat with 164k miles on it, when he bought it and he had 50k miles 3 years ago.
 
Milwaukee said:
Not for me $50 per month in my parent name. I am sure if it was in my name it would be $150 for that geo.


Can you have your parent insurance that car and you pay them money?
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Is it full insurance or liability only insurance (minimum)?

The cost of insurance is depends on cities, states, value of car, driver age, accident or incident history, kind of car and few others.

I do pay so nothing on insurance because my relative covered it, it's $90 per month for full insurance on SUV and truck.
 
sequoias said:
The generation of the Honda Civic I have is from 1996-2000. The redesigned model was 2001 to 2005. I don't think you really need a car that can go to 200k miles because many people don't go that far on average, unless you commute 100 miles a day for a few years. Not many people get to keep the same car for a lifetime. My friend has a 2001 VW Passat with 164k miles on it, when he bought it and he had 50k miles 3 years ago.
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Yup, that's right about too far to hit 100,000 miles because I usually drive about 12,000 miles per year at average.

You have alot of experience about Honda Civic, that's interesting to know and thanks for helping.

Is it safer to buy used Japanese car at over 100,000 miles? I think it's so in most cases and less worries about problem than American cars.
 
Foxrac said:
Yup, that's right about too far to hit 100,000 miles because I usually drive about 12,000 miles per year at average.

You have alot of experience about Honda Civic, that's interesting to know and thanks for helping.

Is it safer to buy used Japanese car at over 100,000 miles? I think it's so in most cases and less worries about problem than American cars.
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I usually average around 16k miles a year. My 2000 Honda Civic has 89k miles on it right now. I have heard a few issues with 1996-2000 Honda Civic with broken crankshafts/rods due to a design flaw, usually starts happening at least at around 120k miles or so. I am not sure if that's true or common issue in that generation. It did happen to one of the guy on Alldeaf with a 1998 Honda Civic DX and had to get an engine replaced at about 128k ish miles. In general, I do believe they can last to over 200k to 300k miles or so. Technically, Honda Civic engines are high revving engines, so their lifespan basically shortens. The diesel engines last longer due to engine that spins at a slower rate of speed.

There was a POS 1992 Chrysler Caravan that even made it to over 260k miles on it and it broke down.
 
sequoias said:
I usually average around 16k miles a year. My 2000 Honda Civic has 89k miles on it right now. I have heard a few issues with 1996-2000 Honda Civic with broken crankshafts/rods due to a design flaw, usually starts happening at least at around 120k miles or so. I am not sure if that's true or common issue in that generation. It did happen to one of the guy on Alldeaf with a 1998 Honda Civic DX and had to get an engine replaced at about 128k ish miles. In general, I do believe they can last to over 200k to 300k miles or so. Technically, Honda Civic engines are high revving engines, so their lifespan basically shortens. The diesel engines last longer due to engine that spins at a slower rate of speed.
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I saw that here they replace all engine due crankshaft broke. That member was very lucky that dealer replace for free.

For me I make 35,000 miles per year that for 18 years old. For now I am try not drive much due no work so I make 200-300 miles every week but last year it used to be 300-700 miles.
 
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sequoias said:
I usually average around 16k miles a year. My 2000 Honda Civic has 89k miles on it right now. I have heard a few issues with 1996-2000 Honda Civic with broken crankshafts/rods due to a design flaw, usually starts happening at least at around 120k miles or so. I am not sure if that's true or common issue in that generation. It did happen to one of the guy on Alldeaf with a 1998 Honda Civic DX and had to get an engine replaced at about 128k ish miles. In general, I do believe they can last to over 200k to 300k miles or so. Technically, Honda Civic engines are high revving engines, so their lifespan basically shortens. The diesel engines last longer due to engine that spins at a slower rate of speed.

There was a POS 1992 Chrysler Caravan that even made it to over 260k miles on it and it broke down.
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I haven't hear any broken crankshafts/rods in Hondas ( I ll check the hotline tmw). If a Honda runs a severe overheated (over230 degree F or more) and
then the engine will be seized after cool engine down. The overheated engine is trashed. I tell you that the Honda's forged steel crankshafts never break. I describe the Honda crankshaft as Samurai's sword. I heard rumor stories about the NASCAR engine rebuilders use Honda connecting rods in their Chevy engines. I agree with u that the Hondas are high rev motors.
 
sequoias said:
I usually average around 16k miles a year. My 2000 Honda Civic has 89k miles on it right now. I have heard a few issues with 1996-2000 Honda Civic with broken crankshafts/rods due to a design flaw, usually starts happening at least at around 120k miles or so. I am not sure if that's true or common issue in that generation. It did happen to one of the guy on Alldeaf with a 1998 Honda Civic DX and had to get an engine replaced at about 128k ish miles. In general, I do believe they can last to over 200k to 300k miles or so. Technically, Honda Civic engines are high revving engines, so their lifespan basically shortens. The diesel engines last longer due to engine that spins at a slower rate of speed.

There was a POS 1992 Chrysler Caravan that even made it to over 260k miles on it and it broke down.
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It seems like rare for Japanese cars to have serious problem, such as model recall or something like you mention about crankshaft, it would be more worse for American cars because they have issued recall on some car model, especially GM.

How much cost to replace the crankshaft? If engine in Civic died then could be replace into new engine? I'm just wonders.

Is it true about most American cars are last longer at closer as Japanese car if made in after 1998?
 
Foxrac said:
I have some questions about buy a car, I'm currently research on car and expected to buy in June.

I had noticed that some members said American cars aren't last longer as Japanese car but it's not true when timproved, closer or equal to Japanese car, I want more detail about life of car because some cars that I looked it was over 100,000 miles.

I'm looking at sedan car and good gas mileage, 30 mpg at least and quality of car, I picked Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla and I had been concerned about quality of Ford Focus and Chevy Impala, I had heard from some people that has alot of problem with Ford Focus.

What's common average for down payment? I think it was between 10% to 20% as minimum.

I have 2 weeks to left to make final decision.
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Mostly V6 and V8 are great for over 100,000 miles and afford for less repair.



Yes, My wife have issue with her Ford Focus 2005. (bad starter, bad transmission linkage, and battery (3 years old) worn out quick. It's only 90,000 mileage already and my Subaru RS 2001 is over 130,000 mileage and everything run great but bearing wheel and battery (finally replace new battery after 7 years old of battery!!). She told me that she had Honda Accord V6 1998 (not sure what year) with over 150,000 and everything run great till accident from black ice from NY. She really hate her Ford already and plan to trade to EVO this fall or so. That's it.

Chevy Impala? Make sure don't buy between 2000 and 2003. It have issue with engine.

GM recalling 1.4 million passenger cars over potential engine fires

I am not sure about Honda I4 engine. My brother just bought Honda Civi 2002 EX and 50,000 miles and no problem since.

I am not really care about Honda because I dont like it so much.
 
Foxrac said:
It seems like rare for Japanese cars to have serious problem, such as model recall or something like you mention about crankshaft, it would be more worse for American cars because they have issued recall on some car model, especially GM.

How much cost to replace the crankshaft? If engine in Civic died then could be replace into new engine? I'm just wonders.

Is it true about most American cars are last longer at closer as Japanese car if made in after 1998?
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Well.. American is best for big engine like truck due strong torque and Japanese is best for gas like car due light weight. Get V6 it's better for longer life and best mpg for highway than I4 due low rpms.

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Accord V6 can made over 500,000.
 
deafsmogtech said:
I haven't hear any broken crankshafts/rods in Hondas ( I ll check the hotline tmw). If a Honda runs a severe overheated (over230 degree F or more) and
then the engine will be seized after cool engine down. The overheated engine is trashed. I tell you that the Honda's forged steel crankshafts never break. I describe the Honda crankshaft as Samurai's sword. I heard rumor stories about the NASCAR engine rebuilders use Honda connecting rods in their Chevy engines. I agree with u that the Hondas are high rev motors.
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LOL NASCAR copy from Formula 1. Some of them use Honda V8 and it can go over 19,000 RPM!!! No, American engine can't do that.

For Milwaukee. Here a link Formula One engines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
since you think I am troll. :giggle:
 
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