PoE and VP?

Neo said:
I just wonder if PoE would work very well with VP?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_over_Ethernet
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Yes, I know about PoE, I read it few year ago, they have at Linksys and DLink

if some room not have power patch, Network cable large other room with power into room

must Power Supply + PoE(output) to long cable to PoE(input) to any boxes (router, Hub, VP, etc..) without power plug patch!
 
Poe will not work...
I believe

depends if you using router will work attach POE.. *hmmmm* if you want eperiment(sp) it.. go ahead! you like beat it up.. go for it.. lol

HUBS.. will always work yes.. but router..:dunno: due firewall that key!
 
Defination of these three networking devices:

HUB, is a device that just recieves data from one end and throws everything to EVERY other end. There is nothing HUB do to discriminate any kind of data. Meaning that HUB does not care whats in the data. HUB does not have brain at all, and can't think anything

Switch: Very similiar as HUB BUT with "brain" added so that switch assigns port based on what it learns of what IP addresses goes to each port. And after it learns itself, its job is to recieve data and peek inside data and found out what IP address it should go then throw in specific port. Advantage is to speed up the networking.. You see, hub throws everything to every PC whatever comes in. Each PC have to figure out which packets for them or not, thus slows them down. Switch does this same job so that PC don't have to check every packet and free up resources for other tasks.

ROUTER, some router don't have built in firewalls, some do have firewall built in. Router real purpose have nothing to do with firewall feature, they were just added feature to the Router. And the real purpose of Router is to route the data to specific end from one end. It is router's job to figure out what to do with each packet of data. Yes, router got their own "brain" The true purpose of Router is to share multiple devices with one IP address from public end. And that the firewall intention was to make inside device invisible to outside. Very simple rule in Internet world is that NO two computers or devices can share same IP address. That is why Router was created to set up "LOCAL AREA NETWORK" meaning inside your home or office or whatever. Router assigns each inside computers with their own "NAT Address" Most common is 192.168.XXX.XXX and other approved NAT addresses. If you got problems with videophone connections, the chances are incorrect set up router!

In order for VP to work effectively, then the firewalls MUST be 100% disabled for that VP in order for them to work right. That is why DMZ is there, DMZ's purpose to shut off the firewall for specific IP address (The one VP uses).
The idea of Firewall is pretty much like security point at airport, the more tighter the airport security means what? Long waiting line, right? Same idea with network, the more firewall security beefs up, the longer the line is for data to wait. Videophone requires zero wait line for their data flow to work smoothly. You see, when you turn on firewall for VP, you get black screen, that is because VP is waiting for that data behind that firewall waiting line. And after specific wait time, it shuts itself off. Yes, the wait time behind the firewall is way too long for videophone to accept.

Speaking POE, it would work if using router or having VP as stand alone in networking. But again, majority of VP users got their computer so therefore need router unless they get secondary IP address given by their ISP.

There are many ways to set up networking system. There is no such thing as "Only one way". Networking is easily manipulated if you know how. Hey GA, just like with these graphic that you created in avatar, there is no such thing as one way to do it, right? Same principle.

GalaxyAngel said:
depends if you using router will work attach POE.. *hmmmm* if you want eperiment(sp) it.. go ahead! you like beat it up.. go for it.. lol

HUBS.. will always work yes.. but router..:dunno: due firewall that key!
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Can I say... ?
for DHB...

DHB's wrote:
ROUTER, some router don't have built in firewalls, some do have firewall built in. Router real purpose have nothing to do with firewall feature, they were just added feature to the Router. And the real purpose of Router is to route the data to specific end from one end. It is router's job to figure out what to do with each packet of data. Yes, router got their own "brain" The true purpose of Router is to share multiple devices with one IP address from public end. And that the firewall intention was to make inside device invisible to outside. Very simple rule in Internet world is that NO two computers or devices can share same IP address. That is why Router was created to set up "LOCAL AREA NETWORK" meaning inside your home or office or whatever. Router assigns each inside computers with their own "NAT Address" Most common is 192.168.XXX.XXX and other approved NAT addresses. If you got problems with videophone connections, the chances are incorrect set up router!
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Yea, Right but depends on Router Brand vary..
I do have firewall come w/Router itself.. I switch for PC w/firewall ... IP direct to VP..without firewall.. That what I'm using pretty seems good..
Few days ago, I got nuked someone who tries destory my PC.. but within hold nuke inside the router... not my pc or vp.. Made me puzzled why not working browsing and etc etc.. so I tested w/Router unplug then came it back normal everything IP changed automatic..

Why is that?
 
The chance somebody nuke your router is not as high as you may think, BUT can happen. Really it is LIKELY that buffer may be full and need to reboot to reset itself. Almost no router can keep running indefinetly unless you can afford expensive router which does that on its own. I think you got my drift... :) Yes what your doing is one way to run networking. Problem with VP is that it requires clear path of data traffic, meaning no firewall in the way. Never NEVER I mean NEVER let your networking with all ports exposed at 100%, If you do, hackers loves to break in your system. But because VP don't have any valuable information store in there and its nothing for hacker to gain with. So why need firewall for VP?

GalaxyAngel said:
Can I say... ?
for DHB...



Yea, Right but depends on Router Brand vary..
I do have firewall come w/Router itself.. I switch for PC w/firewall ... IP direct to VP..without firewall.. That what I'm using pretty seems good..
Few days ago, I got nuked someone who tries destory my PC.. but within hold nuke inside the router... not my pc or vp.. Made me puzzled why not working browsing and etc etc.. so I tested w/Router unplug then came it back normal everything IP changed automatic..

Why is that?
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maybe wrong,

PoW(in) --> Router/Hub --/ /---> PoW(out) --> LAN
will not work

Router or HUB --> PoW(in) --/ /---> PoW(out) --> LAN
will work

try it
 
dhb.. of course I got your drift..
I wasn't said that...
Likely I said.. firewall spoof.. not let anyone nuke into my pc ... just direct to my router.. which good thing to prevent nuke cannot through to my pc.. thanks to router helps..

My router is expensive, I do not care as long I want router is kept stable longer...
Puter came stop not let me browsing.. due nuke already inside the router....
I'm glad that was safe mode!

or probably my breath is wrong.. I don't care!
 
Hey GA, sorry for going off topic... I felt soooo sorry that you have to assist your hubby for rest of life... He got no eyes, no nose..

Back to topic:
Well yea, Router can help thrawt hackers if set up properly. But it is no fool proof.
 
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