Oregon might tax motorists per mile driven, not per gallon

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PORTLAND — If a test drive of mileage-based fees for drivers pans out during the next 10 months, it could replace Oregon's gas tax and serve as a national model for road funding in the future.

Oregon's 24 cents-a-gallon gas tax, which is used to fund roads, has not increased since 1993. Some at the state Department of Transportation say the money could dry up in future years as hybrids and other fuel-efficient cars become more popular. So the state is investigating other alternatives to pay for roads.

The mileage-fee project was designed by engineers at Oregon State University. The system works by using a Global Positioning System in a car to determine the number of miles traveled inside and outside of Oregon and at what times, which could lead to peak-driving-time fees. When the car pulls into a service station, a radio transmitter sends the data to a reader in a gas pump. The mileage fee is added to the bill, and the gas tax is subtracted.

"Still, there will be people who don't believe it," said Jim Whitty, who is overseeing the project for the transportation department. "We know the navigation systems are more invasive, and they will be standard equipment on GM cars a year from now."

Oregon might tax motorists per mile driven, not per gallon

Why Cant the ACLU Challenge this in the US Supreme Court if it passes.This is a volation of privacy.Oh Yeah the ACLU isnt not for Equal Rights.Theyre for WOMEN and Minorities.Just like they will never challenge the seat belt laws but oh yeah theyre challenge abortion rights for women the right to kill their babies.Seat Belt laws are unconstitutional its called "" THe Right to Choose"" But the ACLU wont challenge it.But the Oregon Proposal is clearly invasion of privacy by monitor everywhere you go.The only thing i favor on monitoring is Sex offenders Not people who have no criminal records.
 
Tell to all people... Don't move to Oregon...

If you complain about Oregon then don't move, that simple. You are just happy because you are from Florida but it won't gonna happen when spread out to over US but it's not ALCU fault because Oregon have own their idea to setup the new tax system.

There's same thing with rent properties in Massachusetts that where people must paying tax in rental properties, it's called property tax and only must paid in 25% of rent but it had been for long since 70's or 80's and none of are gonna spread out to over USA though.
 
Also, ACLU don't make people to required seatbelt but it's state decide to make safety for all people, don't matters if republican or democrats support or not.

You just nothing to know about ACLU and always blame on ACLU and Democrats.

Only Libertarian is oppose to required wear seatbelt, and it's most considered with liberal with social.
 
Its Gonna Spread all over the US.You know where it originaly started? ENGLAND!! People all over in England have to be taxed by the mile.But England doesnt have the Bill of Rights or a consitution.We Have the Bill of Rights and the consitution.In there it says "" FREEDOM OF CHOICE "" "" FREEDOM OF PRIVACY"" So the ACLU Has to enforce them but unless youre a woman or non caucasian the ACLU wont take any case.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Its Gonna Spread all over the US.You know where it originaly started? ENGLAND!! People all over in England have to be taxed by the mile.But England doesnt have the Bill of Rights or a consitution.We Have the Bill of Rights and the consitution.In there it says "" FREEDOM OF CHOICE "" "" FREEDOM OF PRIVACY"" So the ACLU Has to enforce them but unless youre a woman or non caucasian the ACLU wont take any case.
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You just talk like big BS and ACLU haven't nothing with tax, period.

Wow, you are so ignorant.

It's not spread over US, just only in Oregon, that it.
 
You dont get it dont you? Oregon is monitoring motorist.Like Spying on you.If Oregon needs more money then GO AFTER BUSINESS PEOPLE Who Are Making Millions of dollars in profit sales!
 
It will spread nationwide for sure. It won't be only Oregon forever. For many years, states have copied laws from other states. It's gonna happen, I don't doubt it.
 
Buckdodgers said:
You dont get it dont you? Oregon is monitoring motorist.Like Spying on you.If Oregon needs more money then GO AFTER BUSINESS PEOPLE Who Are Making Millions of dollars in profit sales!
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I'm glad that I'm not from Oregon.

I doubt it will gonna happen in most states, unless all gas stations are going out of business when new cars are dominant with hydrogen, electric and no fuel tank with new technology in car's machine. We need some taxes to fix the road, build new highway, improving the public transportation and re-pave the road and highway.
 
sequoias said:
It will spread nationwide for sure. It won't be only Oregon forever. For many years, states have copied laws from other states. It's gonna happen, I don't doubt it.
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Thats why the ACLU should take this case to the US Supreme Court.Cause if the Court strikes it down then they have to find another way to make money.Look at the Gitmo bay case.The Court says you gotta try them in civil courts instead of military court.Wanna know why the ACLU challenge that? because the Prisioners are ARABS! But wanna know why the US Supreme Court never heard the case of Japanese prisoners in considtration camps in US in 1944? Because the ACLU didnt excist yet.Belive you me if the ACLU was back in the 1940s the japanese considtration camp wouldnt happen.
 
Though, it says "might" which means maybe yes or maybe no that it will happen. You never know what happens because they're discussing about the plan. I think it will be a failure because lot of Americans take long trips state to state, the farther you drive the more you pay for taxes. I do hope it's cheaper than the gas tax in general. It will be installed in newer cars with the GPS system which means the older cars won't have it and we'll continue to use the gas tax system for a good long time, I think.
 
sequoias said:
Though, it says "might" which means maybe yes or maybe no that it will happen. You never know what happens because they're discussing about the plan. I think it will be a failure because lot of Americans take long trips state to state, the farther you drive the more you pay for taxes. I do hope it's cheaper than the gas tax in general. It will be installed in newer cars with the GPS system which means the older cars won't have it and we'll continue to use the gas tax system for a good long time, I think.
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Great post... :)
 
Why Tax the little guy making $6.50 an hour? Why not Tax those wealthy billion dollar corporations? Like EXXON,MOBIL,BP,GM,FORD,Chrysler,TOYOTA,GE,SONY,MAYTAG,McDONALDS,BURGER KING,TACO BELL,WENDYS,RCA,JVC,CASINO,NOKIA,Black & Decker,Panasonic And Whirlpool? Heres my Plan,Make em pay a 35% Profit taxes.And If they raise the price before 3 years afterwards its more you pay like for every $3 you raise its $2 more goes to the goverment So that way they can afford to pay their fair share.
 
You know, there's a flaw in the system; What if I lived in an Oregon border town? I could always refill my gas tank at a gas station in Washington or some other state bordering Oregon.

Also, GPS may be a suitable technical solution, but the lo-tech method could be used; After all, drivers could be required to report their odometer readings quarterly, bi-annually, etc. and be taxed accordingly.

Still, thank you for posting information about a potential gas tax shortage due to the proliferation of fuel-efficent vehicles. That is one potential tax revenue shortfall, states nationwide may need to account for in maintaining their road infrastructure.
 
Eyeth said:
You know, there's a flaw in the system; What if I lived in an Oregon border town? I could always refill my gas tank at a gas station in Washington or some other state bordering Oregon.

Also, GPS may be a suitable technical solution, but the lo-tech method could be used; After all, drivers could be required to report their odometer readings quarterly, bi-annually, etc. and be taxed accordingly.

Still, thank you for posting information about a potential gas tax shortage due to the proliferation of fuel-efficent vehicles. That is one potential tax revenue shortfall, states nationwide may need to account for in maintaining their road infrastructure.
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These are just "political" issues that can be resolved easy enough. The states aren't stupid and they will find a way to make this work for them. Oregon is one of the first to pave the way with an idea. Eventually, a practical and workable system will be created and all the states will model theirs along those lines. So, the moral of the story is just watch and it will come... :whistle:
 
Buckdodgers said:
Why Tax the little guy making $6.50 an hour? Why not Tax those wealthy billion dollar corporations? Like EXXON,MOBIL,BP,GM,FORD,Chrysler,TOYOTA,GE,SONY,MAYTAG,McDONALDS,BURGER KING,TACO BELL,WENDYS,RCA,JVC,CASINO,NOKIA,Black & Decker,Panasonic And Whirlpool? Heres my Plan,Make em pay a 35% Profit taxes.And If they raise the price before 3 years afterwards its more you pay like for every $3 you raise its $2 more goes to the goverment So that way they can afford to pay their fair share.
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Republicans (George Bush) gave an tax cuts on high income families and rich people, and they refuse to cuts on low income and middle income then that so unfairly. I want new government that give tax cut on ALL TYPE of income, also don't matters about democrat, republican, independent and other parties.
 
volcomskatz said:
Republicans (George Bush) gave an tax cuts on high income families and rich people, and they refuse to cuts on low income and middle income then that so unfairly. I want new government that give tax cut on ALL TYPE of income, also don't matters about democrat, republican, independent and other parties.
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Im not talking about federal issue here.Its a State Issue.Like Oregon wants more money.Want more money GET THE WEALTHY!! But its states like California dont wanna tax HOLLYWOOD Cause the state politicans have too many hollywood friends.Like Arnold Swartzenagger for example.But it was idiots like Governor Gray Davis who wanna hike up electric and energy bills for little people to pay and you saw what happend to Gray Davis.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Im not talking about federal issue here.Its a State Issue.Like Oregon wants more money.Want more money GET THE WEALTHY!! But its states like California dont wanna tax HOLLYWOOD Cause the state politicans have too many hollywood friends.Like Arnold Swartzenagger for example.But it was idiots like Governor Gray Davis who wanna hike up electric and energy bills for little people to pay and you saw what happend to Gray Davis.
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We have other reason about Gray Davis got kicked out and nothing with mentioned.

Not just for liberal party, I know about likely over 90% of Californians want him get kick out for other reason.
 
The supply of electric and water are limited during lacking of rain and it has good reason to make going up, if supply is plenty then it would go down again. We have high property tax because California is #1 big state that why about need more budget to support it.
 
Then Go after hollywood! Look at all those celebrities living nice n comfortable in Beverly Hills and Malbu.I dont hear them bitching and griping.Its people making $6.50 an hour bitching and griping.I think its time for people like britney spears and George Cloony start bitching and griping.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Then Go after hollywood! Look at all those celebrities living nice n comfortable in Beverly Hills and Malbu.I dont hear them bitching and griping.Its people making $6.50 an hour bitching and griping.I think its time for people like britney spears and George Cloony start bitching and griping.
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It's Republican fault because they give tax cuts on rich people and you just nothing to know about it.

Minimum wage in LA area are $9 per hours with health insurance or $10 per hours without health insurance.
 
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