Obama's war on Al Qaeda gets better

[netrox]

It's just amazing how much better our war on Al Qaeda under Obama is than under Bush - he promises he intends to kill Osama bin Laden and it seems like the time is coming!

"Aggressive attacks against al-Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal region have driven Osama bin Laden and his top deputies deeper into hiding and disrupted their ability to plan sophisticated operations, CIA Director Leon Panetta said Wednesday.

So profound is al-Qaeda's disarray that one of its lieutenants, in a recently intercepted message, pleaded with bin Laden to come to the group's rescue and provide some leadership, Panetta said. He credited improved coordination with Pakistan's government and what he called "the most aggressive operation that CIA has been involved in in our history," offering a near-acknowledgment of what is officially a secret war."

washingtonpost.com

Also, "A day earlier, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. told a congressional panel that bin Laden would never go on trial in the United States because the chances of him being caught alive are "infinitesimal." He predicted flatly that bin Laden will be killed -- either by U.S. forces or by al-Qaeda operatives determined to prevent him from being captured."

Osama bin Laden - you are gonna die.

 

[Foxrac]

Finally, that's great news to hear.

I'm expecting that Obama would become more toughen and don't be too soft.

More action, less talk.

 

[TXgolfer]

Osama bin Laden - you are gonna die.

That's what Clinton said when he blew up the pharmaceuticals plant

 

[TXgolfer]

This should be on SNL or The Onion. I can see the Headline now.

"Obama's War Going Well" Says man appointed by Obama


It would be news if Panetta said "Obama is really F ing up"

 

[Steinhauer]

And specifically, it is not Obama that is coming up with the strategy to defeat the Taliban. Ironically enough, its actual trained Pentagon officials that come up with the strategy. The same Pentagon officials that demanded more troops be deployed to Afghanistan.

Also, Obama made a promise to pull troops out of Afghanistan when he was running for President (and even after he became president).

House rejects call for withdrawal from Afghanistan - Yahoo! News

The outcome of the vote, 356-65 against the resolution, was never in doubt. But the 3 1/2 hours of debate did give those who oppose President Barack Obama's war policies a platform to vent their frustrations.

However, Obama is not a war expert. He is a Constitutional Attorney that held a Senate seat for 79 days. He listened to the experts and sent more troops to Afghanistan.


This "its all Bush's fault" theme no longer works. Obama has been president for over a year. Whatever goes wrong is officially Obama's fault, as it is his watch.

The rise in unemployment - Obama's fault
The economy - Obama's fault

It is hard to imagine that we can have a better America in 2010 with all the things that got worse in 2009. The economy got worse. The unemployment rate got much worse. The war in Afghanistan got worse. The national debt got much worse. The annual deficit got worse. The general attitude of the American people got worse. The favorability of Congress got much worse. And the president’s favorability ratings got much worse.


fighting terrorists is actually an idea Bush started, Obama finally agreed.

Don't give him the credit - it wasn't his idea

 

[TXgolfer]

Not to mention Gas is on the rise again. $.48 rise here in the last 5 weeks.

 

[Steinhauer]

Not to mention Gas is on the rise again. $.48 rise here in the last 5 weeks.

I think Chuck Norris had a brilliant idea - drill here, drill now.

Texas used to supply all of our oil, the wells have been capped there (why?)

 

[Foxrac]

And specifically, it is not Obama that is coming up with the strategy to defeat the Taliban. Ironically enough, its actual trained Pentagon officials that come up with the strategy. The same Pentagon officials that demanded more troops be deployed to Afghanistan.

Also, Obama made a promise to pull troops out of Afghanistan when he was running for President (and even after he became president).

House rejects call for withdrawal from Afghanistan - Yahoo! News



However, Obama is not a war expert. He is a Constitutional Attorney that held a Senate seat for 79 days. He listened to the experts and sent more troops to Afghanistan.


This "its all Bush's fault" theme no longer works. Obama has been president for over a year. Whatever goes wrong is officially Obama's fault, as it is his watch.

The rise in unemployment - Obama's fault
The economy - Obama's fault

It is hard to imagine that we can have a better America in 2010 with all the things that got worse in 2009. The economy got worse. The unemployment rate got much worse. The war in Afghanistan got worse. The national debt got much worse. The annual deficit got worse. The general attitude of the American people got worse. The favorability of Congress got much worse. And the president’s favorability ratings got much worse.


fighting terrorists is actually an idea Bush started, Obama finally agreed.

Don't give him the credit - it wasn't his idea

In bold, I disagreed about it is Obama's fault about high unemployment and bad economy because economy started went bad during Bush Admin as unemployment rise after economy started went bad, we are still in recession since December 2007.

 

[TXgolfer]

In bold, I disagreed about it is Obama's fault about high unemployment and bad economy because economy started went bad during Bush Admin as unemployment rise after economy started went bad, we are still in recession since December 2007.

But Obama promised if the Stimulus Bill passed unemployment would not go above 8%........It rose 200% more than he expected. It is either Obama's fault or Obama has no idea what he is talking about. Take your pick. Of course it could be both

 

[Steinhauer]

To start with, first of all, you have to realize it was the Democrats that raised the minimum wage.

Sounds like a great idea right? Hourly employees making minimum wage get paid more for their labor?

But lets think about that for a minute. Suppose you are a business owner. Suppose you have 20 minimum wage employees. Suppose you suddenly have to pay more money to cover the cost of labor. The Minimum wage is currently $7.25 - it used to be (I think) $5.15. The difference is $2.10 per hour per employee.

20 employees working 40 hours a week is 800 hours. at $5.15 per hour, this totaled to $4,120. At $7.25 per hour it totals to $5,800. What this means is that the business owner has to pay $1,680 MORE each week, $6,720 MORE each month, and $80,640 MORE each year.

In order for businesses to survive, they have to make money. If they start LOSING money, such as paying MORE for labor costs, they will start to cut hours and lay people off.

Hourly workers who used to enjoy 40 hour work weeks + benefits, have been losing their benefits, working 20 hour weeks or losing their jobs simply so the business can survive.

Remember, this was the Democrats "feel good" campaigning that brought this upon us all.

 

[Foxrac]

But Obama promised if the Stimulus Bill passed unemployment would not go above 8%........It rose 200% more than he expected. It is either Obama's fault or Obama has no idea what he is talking about. Take your pick. Of course it could be both

I'm not following any conservative bash about him.

Promise make no guarantee if it is totally worked.

Bad economy has contributed to wall street, bank, credit, mortgage and partially from US government, including Obama and previous admins since solely blame on Obama is just very small.

 

[TXgolfer]

I think Chuck Norris had a brilliant idea - drill here, drill now.

Texas used to supply all of our oil, the wells have been capped there (why?)

We are going to need it when we secede! lol

 

[TXgolfer]

I'm not following any conservative bash about him.

Promise make no guarantee if it is totally worked.

Bad economy has contributed to wall street, bank, credit, mortgage and partially from US government, including Obama and previous admins since solely blame on Obama is just very small.

A promise is a guarantee

 

[Foxrac]

To start with, first of all, you have to realize it was the Democrats that raised the minimum wage.

Sounds like a great idea right? Hourly employees making minimum wage get paid more for their labor?

But lets think about that for a minute. Suppose you are a business owner. Suppose you have 20 minimum wage employees. Suppose you suddenly have to pay more money to cover the cost of labor. The Minimum wage is currently $7.25 - it used to be (I think) $5.15. The difference is $2.10 per hour per employee.

20 employees working 40 hours a week is 800 hours. at $5.15 per hour, this totaled to $4,120. At $7.25 per hour it totals to $5,800. What this means is that the business owner has to pay $1,680 MORE each week, $6,720 MORE each month, and $80,640 MORE each year.

In order for businesses to survive, they have to make money. If they start LOSING money, such as paying MORE for labor costs, they will start to cut hours and lay people off.

Hourly workers who used to enjoy 40 hour work weeks + benefits, have been losing their benefits, working 20 hour weeks or losing their jobs simply so the business can survive.

Remember, this was the Democrats "feel good" campaigning that brought this upon us all.

I'm FOR minimum wage increase that based on inflation, I have feel that some businesses, especially conservative are blame on minimum wage.

I believe that skyrocketing of unemployed has been contributed to bad economy since increase of minimum wage is very minority. Make $5.15 per hour isn't enough anymore because inflation went up, especially skyrocketing of gas price in few years ago. Additional, I think any small businesses are deserved to get tax break so they could pay employees at federal minimum wage.

 

[Foxrac]

A promise is a guarantee

No, it isn't.

 

[Steinhauer]

We are going to need it when we secede! lol

when you guys do, I am moving there

 

[TXgolfer]

They are referring to a Jan. 9, 2009, report called "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" from Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser.

Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create between three and four million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also includes a graphic predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009.

But in June, the unemployment rate was 9.5 percent.

In the past week, the administration has acknowledged its projections were wrong.

Here's what Romer herself said in a July 2 interview on Fox: "None of us had a crystal ball back in December and January. I think almost every private forecaster realized that there were other things going on in the economy. It was worse than we anticipated. What the private forecasters are saying now is that they do anticipate that the economy will start growing again in the second half of the year, and that usually, then, employment and unemployment start to respond shortly after that. So I think that is a realistic expectation."

Biden also acknowledged the discrepancies in a July 5 interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

"The truth is, we and everyone else misread the economy," Biden said. "The figures we worked off of in January were the consensus figures in most of the blue chip indexes out there. ... And so the truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited. Now, that doesn't — I'm not laying — it's now our responsibility. So the second question becomes, did the economic package we put in place, including the Recovery Act, is it the right package given the circumstances we're in? And we believe it is the right package given the circumstances we're in."

Stephanopoulos correctly noted that projections from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office at the time were slightly less optimistic than the administration's. In January, the CBO projected the unemployment rate would climb to 8.3 percent in 2009 and peak at 9 percent in 2010. By February, the prediction was even higher — 9 percent in 2009 without the stimulus, and 7.7 to 8.5 percent with a stimulus

 

[TXgolfer]

No, it isn't.

guar·an·tee   /ˌgærənˈti/ Show Spelled [gar-uhn-tee] Show IPA noun, verb,-teed, -tee·ing.
–noun
1.a promise or assurance, esp. one in writing, that something is of specified quality, content, benefit, etc., or that it will perform satisfactorily for a given length of time: a money-back guarantee.
2.guaranty (defs. 1, 2).
3.something that assures a particular outcome or condition: Wealth is no guarantee of happiness.
4.a person who gives a guarantee or guaranty; guarantor.
5.a person to whom a guarantee is made.

 

[Steinhauer]

I'm FOR minimum wage increase that based on inflation, I have feel that some businesses, especially conservative are blame on minimum wage.

I believe that skyrocketing of unemployed has been contributed to bad economy since increase of minimum wage is very minority. Make $5.15 per hour isn't enough anymore because inflation went up, especially skyrocketing of gas price in few years ago. Additional, I think any small businesses are deserved to get tax break so they could pay employees at federal minimum wage.

here is the domino effect. I am NOT bashing you, just trying to explain how this works.

When businesses have to pay MORE, they will cut hours and benefits to survive. This means that the average consumer makes less, not more. This also means that costs will rise.

These trillion dollar bail outs from Obama did nothing to decrease unemployment. It made our deficit worse (we are deeper in debt as a result - not better economically, but much much worse).

Where did this bail out go? Did it go to the consumers? No, it did not.

Consumers are what drives the economy. Producers do NOT drive the economy, it is the consumers.

Businesses fail when no one spends their money. People lose their homes when they are not making money.

The minimum wage increase was a great idea! It made everyone feel good, and the democrats made business owners out to be greedy monsters. They got a lot of "feel good" votes as a result.

But, what penultimately resulted from this was a crippling effect on the economy. They hurt the very backbone of what drives the economy, businesses, that EMPLOY consumers were forced to CUT HOURS (cut money) and benefits from their employees so that they themselves could survive.

The bail out given to Wall Street was used how? So CEO's could get their bonuses? Buy that jet they always wanted?

 

[Foxrac]

guar·an·tee   /ˌgærənˈti/ Show Spelled [gar-uhn-tee] Show IPA noun, verb,-teed, -tee·ing.
–noun
1.a promise or assurance, esp. one in writing, that something is of specified quality, content, benefit, etc., or that it will perform satisfactorily for a given length of time: a money-back guarantee.
2.guaranty (defs. 1, 2).
3.something that assures a particular outcome or condition: Wealth is no guarantee of happiness.
4.a person who gives a guarantee or guaranty; guarantor.
5.a person to whom a guarantee is made.

here is the domino effect. I am NOT bashing you, just trying to explain how this works.

When businesses have to pay MORE, they will cut hours and benefits to survive. This means that the average consumer makes less, not more. This also means that costs will rise.

These trillion dollar bail outs from Obama did nothing to decrease unemployment. It made our deficit worse (we are deeper in debt as a result - not better economically, but much much worse).

Where did this bail out go? Did it go to the consumers? No, it did not.

Consumers are what drives the economy. Producers do NOT drive the economy, it is the consumers.

Businesses fail when no one spends their money. People lose their homes when they are not making money.

The minimum wage increase was a great idea! It made everyone feel good, and the democrats made business owners out to be greedy monsters. They got a lot of "feel good" votes as a result.

But, what penultimately resulted from this was a crippling effect on the economy. They hurt the very backbone of what drives the economy, businesses, that EMPLOY consumers were forced to CUT HOURS (cut money) and benefits from their employees so that they themselves could survive.

The bail out given to Wall Street was used how? So CEO's could get their bonuses? Buy that jet they always wanted?

Whatever you say so, economy is just bad so give more time for economy to recover and I know it does sucks but that's part of life.

I never trust any conservatives in US, of course because of situation with GLBT rights so I don't give a damn if it isn't related with this topic, even they already lost my respect.