Obama considers Internet ID for Americans in bid to boost web security

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President Obama is spearheading a plan to boost web security by issuing American computer users with an Internet ID.

The President has put the U.S. Commerce Department in charge of the cybersecurity initiative.

The Obama administration is drafting a paper called the National Strategy for Trusted Identities, which investigates ways that web users can protect their online identities.

But Commerce Secretary Gary Locke was quick to reassure people that it wasn’t a guise for more big brother government.

‘We are not talking about a national ID card,’ he said at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research.

‘We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorise a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities,’ he added.

He said the Commerce Department is setting up a national programme to work on the project.

Possible methods of creating a ‘trusted identity’ could include issuing a ‘smart card’ or digital certificates that would prove that online users are who they say they are. They could then be used to buy goods and carry out financial transactions on the Internet.

White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said the move does not mean that anonymity will be compromised.

‘I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to,’ he said.

There's no chance that ‘a centralised database will emerge,’ and ‘we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this,’ he added, according to CNET website.

The decision to put the Commerce Secretary in charge of the issue has reportedly left noses out of joint at the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security.

But it is likely to please privacy and civil liberties groups that have raised concerns over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

Source: Obama considers Internet ID for Americans in bid to boost web security | Mail Online
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How can they keep our personal information safe if they can't keep their documents from being leaked to places like wikileaks?

More government intrusions and a violation of our privacy.....

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
How can they keep our personal information safe if they can't keep their documents from being leaked to places like wikileaks?

More government intrusions and a violation of our privacy.....

Yiz
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did you even read the article? nowhere in the article even resembles to anything you said.
 
why not just use OpenID? or GoogleID or Facebook ID? They work just fine.
 
Its a computer system and no matter what security advances are in place someone somewhere will find the holes in the program so now instead of having access to the one account they hacked they have open access to everything..... hmmmm
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Screw that.
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You know Alex I often wonder what on earth are government officials are thinking when they make these decisions. Such as the DADT that passed, now I personally have no problem with it, but here is the thing...

If the majority of soldiers that had a problem with it are the combat soldiers the ones that are fighting right now and under an enormous amount of stress and angst as it is, why force their hand. My fear is friendly fire accidents, or at the very least keep it state side and slowly integrate it over seas, a house divided will always fall and that is exactly what the opposing side is hoping for.
 
ember said:
You know Alex I often wonder what on earth are government officials are thinking when they make these decisions. Such as the DADT that passed, now I personally have no problem with it, but here is the thing...
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the government is not implementing this nor regulating it.

ember said:
If the majority of soldiers that had a problem with it are the combat soldiers the ones that are fighting right now and under an enormous amount of stress and angst as it is, why force their hand. My fear is friendly fire accidents, or at the very least keep it state side and slowly integrate it over seas, a house divided will always fall and that is exactly what the opposing side is hoping for.
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lol way off-topic.
 
Jiro the government is not implementing this nor regulating it.

The act had to pass thru the house and the senate, which is what I meant by that and no they are not hands on implementing it but the president, sec def, and chief of staff have to review it and how it is going to be implemented and I am sure they will make changes and suggestions as needed before it is signed and military command issues it out.

Jiro lol way off-topic

My point here was not what I was talking about, my point was were these things taken into consideration before this happened, not my statement itself. Is the statement itself on topic, no, is the inference behind, yes.
 
ember said:
Jiro the government is not implementing this nor regulating it.

The act had to pass thru the house and the senate, which is what I meant by that and no they are not hands on implementing it but the president, sec def, and chief of staff have to review it and how it is going to be implemented and I am sure they will make changes and suggestions as needed before it is signed and military command issues it out.

Jiro lol way off-topic

My point here was not what I was talking about, my point was were these things taken into consideration before this happened, not my statement itself. Is the statement itself on topic, no, is the inference behind, yes.
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How does DADT relate to this Internet ID topic?
 
Jiro said:
How does DADT relate to this Internet ID topic?
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I said before DADT does not, I am merely making a comparison in the thinking behind making the decision for it to pass right now. Its just an example used for reasoning
 
ember said:
I said before DADT does not, I am merely making a comparison in the thinking behind making the decision for it to pass right now. Its just an example used for reasoning
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but the comparison is not needed since this Internet ID will not be legislated nor regulated by government. none.

Obama was just addressing about enhancing web security by suggesting Internet ID.

The President has put the U.S. Commerce Department in charge of the cybersecurity initiative.
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Initiative. It's just to get the ball rolling among companies to improve web security due to high incidents of internet fraud, not to rally-call politicians to enact a legislation.

The Obama administration is drafting a paper called the National Strategy for Trusted Identities, which investigates ways that web users can protect their online identities.
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The administration is simply writing a paper to address the issue and to offer suggestions. They are not writing a legislation bill.

There's no chance that ‘a centralised database will emerge,’ and ‘we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this,’ he added, according to CNET website.
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Private Sector will be handling this, not government.

bottom line -
‘I don't have to get a credential if I don't want to,’ he said.
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Jiro: but the comparison is not needed since this Internet ID will not be legislated nor regulated by government.


alright alright
Then I stand corrected I overlooked those words in my once over reading of the OP. I am not an Obama opposer nor do I oppose our government or any part of our current administration, I am an American period. I am just saying that sometimes things that seem good for the moment are not good in the long run no matter who oversees it even if it is the private sector.
 
It is like yeast finding its way in unleavened bread.
 
ember said:
Jiro: but the comparison is not needed since this Internet ID will not be legislated nor regulated by government.


alright alright
Then I stand corrected I overlooked those words in my once over reading of the OP. I am not an Obama opposer nor do I oppose our government or any part of our current administration, I am an American period. I am just saying that sometimes things that seem good for the moment are not good in the long run no matter who oversees it even if it is the private sector.
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mmm ok. point is - you are free to not use Internet ID (if it ever exists). This kind of system (see netrox's post above) has already existed for a long time. Nobody raised a "omfgwtf" issue over it.

Just because the government "raised" an issue about it by talking about it doesn't mean the government wants to regulate it and mandate it. But... you should read the article a little more carefully next time because nothing in it mentioned anything that you were concerned about.
 
Jiro said:
mmm ok. point is - you are free to not use Internet ID (if it ever exists). This kind of system (see netrox's post above) has already existed for a long time. Nobody raised a "omfgwtf" issue over it.

Just because the government "raised" an issue about it by talking about it doesn't mean the government wants to regulate it and mandate it. But... you should read the article a little more carefully next time because nothing in it mentioned anything that you were concerned about.
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I feel like we are on a merry go round and you are not listening to me. The only thing I was incorrect on was if the thing was government or privately mandated, my sentiments and feelings about everything else I said have not changed.
 
ember said:
I feel like we are on a merry go round and you are not listening to me. The only thing I was incorrect on was if the thing was government or privately mandated, my sentiments and feelings about everything else I said have not changed.
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If you feel that you two are on a merry go round and round, then stop being the next horse. Get on different subject.
 
LinuxGold said:
If you feel that you two are on a merry go round and round, then stop being the next horse. Get on different subject.
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I think my horse is broken. It doesn't go up and down. wtf? I want a refund.
 
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