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No sex, please, we're Republicans

He blew the lid off sexual habits in the US. That's why the religious right wants to kill off a film about Dr Kinsey

John Patterson
Friday December 3, 2004
The Guardian

Bill Condon's biopic Kinsey would be an important movie at any time, but right now, with the "Moral Values" crowd in the ascendant and thirsty for the blood of heretics in the aftermath of Bush's re-election, it's an absolutely essential movie.
Dr Alfred Kinsey, played by Liam Neeson, was the Harvard-trained entomologist who pioneered research into the sexual habits of Americans. After interviewing tens of thousands of citizens, male and female, he collected his findings in two books that changed the way Americans comprehended sex.

Sexual Behaviour in the Human Male, published in 1948, and its female counterpart, published in 1953, revealed the bedroom (and locker room and barnyard) habits of Americans in a way that blew the lid off Puritanism forever. "God, what a gap between social front and reality!" was the conclusion he came to. Kinsey's been dead for nearly half a century and now, thanks to the movie, the religious right want to dig him up and kill him all over again.

Working at the University of Indiana - about as "red" a state as you could hope to find nowadays, and sponsored by that well-known fifth-column, the Rockefeller Foundation - Kinsey and his research team developed as precise an interview formula as was possible in a country still mired in sexual ignorance and fear. He interviewed single and married straights, gays, lesbians, incarcerated rapists and sex criminals, even those who had sought congress with beasts of the field and farmyard, all without surrendering scientific objectivity or passing churchy moral judgments. Before he published his work, Americans assumed that sex occurred only after marriage, that homosexuals and lesbians were demonic inverts, and that masturbation led directly to godless communism, hairy-handedness and imbecilised high-school quarterbacks drooling on their letterman jackets.

Kinsey's two books were bestsellers, but he became entangled in the neuroses of his time. The Rockefeller folk were hounded into dropping their support, and J Edgar Hoover demanded - but didn't receive - Kinsey's assistance in witch-hunting gays at the US State Department. That Hoover was himself a cross-dressing, closeted homosexual who lived with his overpromoted pretty-boy assistant, FBI director Clyde Tolson, speaks volumes about the grotesque hypocrisy of public figures in those days (plus ça change ... ). Kinsey's detractors lined up around the block to get their licks in, then as now, and it's possible that their efforts helped speed his early demise in 1956 aged 62.

Condon's movie does a splendid job of recreating the quasi-Victorian sexual politics of a time when people scarcely knew what to do or feel about their ungovernable hard-ons and inexplicably moistened knickers. They literally were in the dark and all alone, guilt-drenched and deeply fearful, when it came to sex. The film shows interview subjects startled to learn that babies do not, in fact, emerge from the female bellybutton or that there's more than one position for coitus.

Put plainly, Kinsey is one of the inventors of our modern sex lives. He stands with Margaret Sanger, who agitated for birth control and backed research that gave us the Pill by 1960 - which in turn gave us the unzipped sexual revolution and the bra-burning Women's Movement - and with Hugh Hefner, who 'fessed up and said flat out that, yup, he was hornier than a dog with two dicks and didn't care who knew it. If you've ever had a guilt-and-fear-free orgasm, you owe them all bigtime.

And because of that, the religious right still fear and despise Kinsey and all his works. Check out some of the (apparently coordinated) responses to the new movie. "Kinsey's proper place is with Nazi doctor Josef Mengele," says Robert Knight of Concerned Women for America, inadvertently showing us what he thinks of the Holocaust. Robert Peters of Morality in Media: "That's part of Kinsey's legacy: Aids, abortion, the high divorce rate, pornography." Focus on the Family's film critic (they have a film critic?), Tom Neven, calls the movie "rank propaganda for the sexual revolution and the homosexual agenda". And Judith Reisman, who has waged a decades-long war against Kinsey's memory, refers to "a legacy of massive venereal disease, broken hearts and broken souls".

These people are of a piece with new Republican congressmen who really have sex on the brain, such as Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, who thinks there is an epidemic of lesbianism in Oklahoma schools, and South Carolina's Jim DeMint (that second 'i' should really be an 'e') who wants gays and pregnant single mothers barred from teaching decent, God-fearing hillbillies.

At the dawn of a digitised, globalised millennium, these creeps want the clocks turned back to a time when the church held sway over our sexuality. They prefer us ignorant and terrified, alone in the dark, the better for them to control us through fear and guilt. Too bad for them that we live in the bright, vivid light of our incandescent dirty dreams.

Source: http://film.guardian.co.uk/patterson/story/0,12830,1364576,00.html


That's why I love Guardian, they spewed nothing but truths and facts. In my other topic, they want to ban swing bars... now they want to ban the knowledges about sex and our pleasure? You be the judge.
 
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That's part of the reason I dont join reglious groups or go to the church or anything like that...even though I'm a christian doesn't mean that I'm ignorant but I do listen to facts and truths about our american life and stuff like that...though tons of christians and catholics always try to shield people about sex and stuff like that...but I think it's really pointless to be paranoid about sex and stuff because that's where life comes from! from having sex, you make babies. BIG deal! what's the problem about knowing? knowledge is power, right? and knowing more about sex means you do know more about STDs, HIVs, AIDs, etc...and you know you would be a better person at sex, right? if you never knew anything about sex or where babies from come, and then you saw a vagina or penis for the very first time at age 20 or whatever, you dont know shit and then *bam* you proably get raped or proably get STDs and then you have a very short time to live...just because you dont know anything about sex or why you were raped or anything like that. knowing alot of things help you survive and you want to survive, dont you? then sex education is the best tool for young teens to understand about sex and how it is, and how babies were formed, and know where HIVs, AIDs, and STDs comes from...etc though sex is embrassing and uncomfortable to talk about, but it's better to tell the truth than keep it locked forever right?

so...it's actually better for parents to explain about sex to their kids than the teachers at school...because it's more of a private conservation and better to talk with your relatives than to strangers like teachers...etc u know?

anyway, alot of reglionous groups are always ignorant about alot of things though they think they know better, but they really dont because they dont take education very well than some of us do. alot of reglionous groups dont believe in evloution, even though it's pretty obvious to know where we came from...and we seen the apes who do look pretty similar to us, and it's just so obvious to see that we are related to them and that we evolved to them, but they refuse to belive that and I think they are just being stupid anyway. other groups are always saying that Jesus is white instead of black or hispanic or whatever because they are racists and dont like having black people in their churches and the bible NEVER said anything about jesus's skin color or anything like that...though alot of images showed Jesus as a white man, but who cares what skin color he had? don't even get fooled about that because it was more than 2,000 years ago and the bible never said anything racist, either. I don't have any friends who are catholics and I dont want to be with one because they always tell me to go to their church, though I'm a christian and I dont like being judged of what kind of reglion group I'm in, because I didn't chose that choice...my family did and it's not my fault to be blamed at anyway, though catholics don't believe in divorce and if the catholic wife is always being abused and raped by her husband, and she wanted to leave him forever, but can't because of "catholic laws" and what else would she do? her family would leave her without help or attention if she tried to divorce her husband...and I dont think that's very fair. that's very stupid and harsh.

so, that's why I dont go to church or join any reglionous groups because they always cause alot of stupid problems and I don't like to get involved in it anyway.
 
Note: Christians or any religious people, I don't have anything against you but I do have something against any religious people who imposed their beliefs on others or oppress others. So please keep it in your mind.


Steel, I agree with most of your points. That's one of few reasons why I resigned from christian group when I realized how hypocritical they are. I know one nice gal who was on heavily drugs (her history is awful) and she needs a help... She went to the church and right after sermon is done, she cried and cried. My mother saw her crying for several minutes and no one is willing to help her. That's where my mother and I finally saw the real faces of christians at that time, we helped that drug user. She lived with us for a while when she don't have any money and other things also eventually got her to break from drug. She finally met a guy that she fell in love with and moved to Colorado and have two kids. At that time, my mom don't have enough money either due to divorce but she was willing to give up her time, her money and her commitments for that drug user while these christians kept holding their noses in the air. That is when it opened my eyes and resigned from church and refused to get involved into their churches/groups/activities afterward.

I didn't regret that I abandoned the christian group. No one on this earth have the rights to impose their beliefs on others. That's what got me pissed off at these people.
 
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sex is dirty. the reason why nobody else speak out about this, because
they will get bashed for it.
Sex is overrated. :roll:

I agree with Christians and Republicans...

USA got the highest percentage of Rape, and especially children are being kidnap, sexual assault, and kill...
so it isn't a proper time to show off this movie about sex.


Well my Uncle and Aunt in California,,, they are strict religious folks, and they threatened their 5 kids not to have sex before marriage... and
so all the 5 kids have sex after marriage.
None have children out of wedlock or STDs or anything...

And my Grandmom's siblings were under strict rules by their parents...
Their parents spank them with a rod.... if children disobeyed.
And they grew up, got jobs, live right, longer marriage, and nice attitude.

Right now, my nephew is so hard headed.... his mom called his name many times, and he ignored her.... and she would feel guilty if she spank him...
and he is spoiled rotten.

So compare the today kids to the past kids.....

Past kids were discipline and well behaved
and look at the today kids,,, spoiled, not discipline enough...

And we should listen to Christians and Republicans on how to discipline children, instead of letting your children watch sex on tv and get sex education and go wild.

Teens in the past, they concentrate on finding a husband or wife....
after high school, they get married....

Now we got teens who most of them got STDs and AIDS and sexually active.

We need conservative back in USA. I'm sick of Liberals messing up USA.
 
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