My barrel stove kit

[sonocativo]

Barrel stove kit $40
Barrel free
1st burn outdoors....fun fun fun

 

[Jane B.]

Barrel stove kit $40
Barrel free
1st burn outdoors....fun fun fun

What have you done to insulate that flue? We don't want you to burn the place down from the hot gases going from floor to floor and through the roof.

 

[sonocativo]

What have you done to insulate that flue? We don't want you to burn the place down from the hot gases going from floor to floor and through the roof.

Haha, good eyes you have !!!
The flue goes through the roof ( on the sun porch ) it is in a steel ceiling box ( supposed to have an adapter to triple wall flue going out )
The tripple wall is gonna run me about $300 so it will be next month before I can burn in the house.
Later when money permits the stove will be moved between 2 windows on the left of where it is now and ran through the wall with a thimble and out so it opens the floor. Then the basement trap door behind where the barrel is now will receive banisters and railings and left open.
The stove is temporary hooked up to keep whatever out.
An old friend of mine, his little brother has a drywall business and is going to give me a bid to drywall the entire house. Since all electrical/plumbing will be done as well as a complete gut rehab, it will be a breeze to slap it all up. I decided to go with PEX for my water lines, cheaper than copper and can install the entire house in just a few hours.

 

[Tousi]

If you're gonna use PEX, do all you can to prevent rodents getting inside the walls cuz they will chew on that PEX. Looking good so far. Best wishes.......

 

[sonocativo]

Yes, Im sealing every crevice and crack with expandable foam, fiberglass insulation and covering with plastic.
I am only debating Pex because its cheap and easy... But my heart is all out for copper and I may decide to go hard with copper at the last minute.
The pex will be in one interior wall to secong floor straight up to bathroom, the other will branch off in the basement and come up to the kitchen ( sink will be in an island in the middle of the floor ) so dont think mice will be an issue but considering costs of the connectors for pex, I think copper will be cheaper since I have all the copper connectors I need, just need the pipe.

 

[diehardbiker]

He had done it right, I can recognize how he installed the chimney. He used ceiling thimble which is technically is insulation for chimney and attic materials. He should be fine and hope his house is not too small cause it can get toasty warm or even summer like heat if house is too small.

What have you done to insulate that flue? We don't want you to burn the place down from the hot gases going from floor to floor and through the roof.

 

[diehardbiker]

Maybe this would help, these triple wall vent is very expensive. I have compared two different types of vent made by simpson Duravent; Home depot sells the cheapest of all, I can't find anyone beat Home Depot. I also found that if it contains asbestos, it is not that great compare to the one that is triple wall but has fiberglas in between inner and middle wall and open space between middle wall to outside wall. Stainless, I love it! When I had my stove burn to max "Somewhat overfire" for half an hour and that chimney stays cold to touch! Check out Home Depot, Lowes is more expensive and has asbestos in it. That is something I want stay miles away from.

Haha, good eyes you have !!!
The flue goes through the roof ( on the sun porch ) it is in a steel ceiling box ( supposed to have an adapter to triple wall flue going out )
The tripple wall is gonna run me about $300 so it will be next month before I can burn in the house.
Later when money permits the stove will be moved between 2 windows on the left of where it is now and ran through the wall with a thimble and out so it opens the floor. Then the basement trap door behind where the barrel is now will receive banisters and railings and left open.
The stove is temporary hooked up to keep whatever out.
An old friend of mine, his little brother has a drywall business and is going to give me a bid to drywall the entire house. Since all electrical/plumbing will be done as well as a complete gut rehab, it will be a breeze to slap it all up. I decided to go with PEX for my water lines, cheaper than copper and can install the entire house in just a few hours.

 

[sonocativo]

Maybe this would help, these triple wall vent is very expensive. I have compared two different types of vent made by simpson Duravent; Home depot sells the cheapest of all, I can't find anyone beat Home Depot. I also found that if it contains asbestos, it is not that great compare to the one that is triple wall but has fiberglas in between inner and middle wall and open space between middle wall to outside wall. Stainless, I love it! When I had my stove burn to max "Somewhat overfire" for half an hour and that chimney stays cold to touch! Check out Home Depot, Lowes is more expensive and has asbestos in it. That is something I want stay miles away from.

I did check home depot and they had nothing, Ill check Lowes tomorrow, thanks.
I had the wood barrel full blast to burn the paint off, that baby can throw the heat, It was outside and I could feel the heat 5 feet away. Flames shooting out the pipe and all...lol so I know it will warm that house nicely with the damper closed.

 

[diehardbiker]

I think it is too late to check at home depot, they usually clears up winter stuff and start stock spring/summer stuff during February. I know how they marketing their stuff. Same with Lowes.

Yes your stove CAN heat up 3,000 sq ft house no problem. I am not sure size of your house, but sizing of stove with house is important. I found out hard way right now. My stove is little too big and it is harder to control (Time related) the heat output with bigger stove. Can end up use more firewood than needed with too much heat coming out.

I did check home depot and they had nothing, Ill check Lowes tomorrow, thanks.
I had the wood barrel full blast to burn the paint off, that baby can throw the heat, It was outside and I could feel the heat 5 feet away. Flames shooting out the pipe and all...lol so I know it will warm that house nicely with the damper closed.

 

[diehardbiker]

If you want know which chimney I am referring to... see link

Chimney - Furnace Chimney - Dura Vent - Charmaster Products Inc.

I Will get another link that I wouldn't recommend.

Still can't find the one I wouldn't recommended. Every time I enter the right one and it return different. Oh well.

 

[sonocativo]

I think it is too late to check at home depot, they usually clears up winter stuff and start stock spring/summer stuff during February. I know how they marketing their stuff. Same with Lowes.

Yes your stove CAN heat up 3,000 sq ft house no problem. I am not sure size of your house, but sizing of stove with house is important. I found out hard way right now. My stove is little too big and it is harder to control (Time related) the heat output with bigger stove. Can end up use more firewood than needed with too much heat coming out.

No, building materials are building materials, these would be carried year round, no one is gonna do this with snow and ice on the roofs. Besides most homes are build/remodeled in the spring/summer months anyways so needs to be available. I have a Buchhiets close to me as well so I can get anything farm/garden/home there. A little more pricey that HD/Lowes but if I need it, they have it.

My house is hugh, as you can see in the pictures. I plan to build a 250 gallon oil tank wood burner to heat the entire house from basement , will weld an air box to it for forced air on each side, one on each side and thermostatically controlled for each level of the house but heat rises so wouldnt do much good to the second floor...lol

 

[diehardbiker]

Well, I noticed every year, they cleared up chimney stuff, woodstove, etc out and replace it with lawn tractors and other stuff during February. That was after when I need specific bolt for my snow thrower in the end of February and Home depot said, sorry we took it out and come back in fall. I was like WTF? Its heavy snowing right now and I need this belt to clear the driveway.. Nothing they can do. Man! I hate when that happens. I ended up with regular bolt and had to be careful not hit anything because with regular bolt in auger and if anything hits it, can damage the gears, that is why special bolt is need to break if it hits something hard. I rather break the soft bolt than the gears.

Not all Home depot are the same, FYI so your area may be different.

No, building materials are building materials, these would be carried year round, no one is gonna do this with snow and ice on the roofs. Besides most homes are build/remodeled in the spring/summer months anyways so needs to be available. I have a Buchhiets close to me as well so I can get anything farm/garden/home there. A little more pricey that HD/Lowes but if I need it, they have it.

My house is hugh, as you can see in the pictures. I plan to build a 250 gallon oil tank wood burner to heat the entire house from basement , will weld an air box to it for forced air on each side, one on each side and thermostatically controlled for each level of the house but heat rises so wouldnt do much good to the second floor...lol

 

[MCB]

Can't you just order out-of season stuff on the internet? Like for delivery and pickup at the store?

 

[diehardbiker]

Yes, but usually at higher price than if it were in stock. There is markups for "Special order".

Can't you just order out-of season stuff on the internet? Like for delivery and pickup at the store?

 

[radioman]

here in NYS they have stove stores , but they are a bit more expensive for parts.
I liked those barrel stoves, I grew up with a neighbor who did the same for his garage but had a double barrel stove so it can pull more heat out of smoke, but it can be bit smokey and had more cresote in his chimney.
You dont have to go with triple wall pipes. You can install a concrete chimney - I put up two of them with ceramic lining. lots of labor, but cheaper to pay as you go over summer before your first fire up in fall.

 

[VacationGuy234]

That is a cool setup.

 

[diehardbiker]

The way he set up the stove, concrete chimney isn't feasible. Unless he moves stove closer to outside wall then yeah can build concrete chimney. I wanted concrete chimney, but found out that it is alot easier with triple wall chimney and easier to pass city inspection. I wish I can go other way but I would get caught anyway so not worth the risk. I installed triple lined chimney in just 3/4 of day doing alone. Friend of mine had contractor quoted him almost $3,000 and requires two guys and two days and my friend couldn't believe that I have done in single day. When I told him done, he said no way and came to my house and saw it complete. LOL

I am not 100% sure of his plan, but from what I see, I believe he knows what he is doing.

here in NYS they have stove stores , but they are a bit more expensive for parts.
I liked those barrel stoves, I grew up with a neighbor who did the same for his garage but had a double barrel stove so it can pull more heat out of smoke, but it can be bit smokey and had more cresote in his chimney.
You dont have to go with triple wall pipes. You can install a concrete chimney - I put up two of them with ceramic lining. lots of labor, but cheaper to pay as you go over summer before your first fire up in fall.

 

[radioman]

he did state he plans to move it. I am just saying you are not limited to triplewall setup. I know you have to have it on outside wall unless you want a chimney in middle of house like old houses. I installed a couple like I said. A pipe going at least 8 ft in middle of room to concrete chimney outside wall is not unheard of as long there is enough clearance for no one to get burned with hands up in air.

 

[diehardbiker]

True about not limited to triplewall. Just that I found out Triplewall performs far better than any metal type chimney. And yes your right 8 ft long but 10 ft is the maximum. I would avoid long horizontal vent as much as possible due to risk of carbon monoxide leaks.

he did state he plans to move it. I am just saying you are not limited to triplewall setup. I know you have to have it on outside wall unless you want a chimney in middle of house like old houses. I installed a couple like I said. A pipe going at least 8 ft in middle of room to concrete chimney outside wall is not unheard of as long there is enough clearance for no one to get burned with hands up in air.

 

[sonocativo]

True about not limited to triplewall. Just that I found out Triplewall performs far better than any metal type chimney. And yes your right 8 ft long but 10 ft is the maximum. I would avoid long horizontal vent as much as possible due to risk of carbon monoxide leaks.

Indoors, you want your black single wall pipe off the stove to be as short as possible to vent so you have the proper draft, the flue to exterior should be at a minimum height of 15 feet above the stove to create proper draft and no blow back from wind. Th common rule is 2 feet above the peak of the roof unless its greater than 10 feet away from the peak of the roof. Mine is currently on an addition to the house so 3 feet is fine and I got 20 feet height from the stove.
When I relocate the new stove close to the side wall, it will vent through the wall, so a different setup is needed, and I will have an open floor. The barrel will then go into the basement to heat the lower areas. The stove heated the whole house comfortably today, tore out some more walls and the heat just rose right up to the second level ( see pictures )
I had a clean burn, no smoke, so no creasote will build up as well.