Miners *Update*

wildzerica06 said:
yeah I thought they were alive til I took a nap then woke up at 2am from a nap and used computer for a while til I saw the news i was like WTF?! sheesh.. oh well I hope families are doin well and I don't blame them for being mad..

Same me too, I was up all night and watched the andersen cooper on cnn.....
I didn't really care about the miners' news because I heard all the time miners survive, miners' survive.... But then Cooper caught my attention when he was interviewing the lady who said all 12 died but 1 survive, I thought that lady was insane.... But geez it is really true.

I guess life is really short.
 
Pah, about the time.. he woke..
which it's great news..

Doctors moved McCloy out of intensive care Tuesday and said his heart and liver functions are recovering slowly, but he remains on dialysis because of kidney damage. McCloy, of Simpson, has been breathing without assistance for several days.

Takes a while few weeks to recovery his health back normal.. hopefully!
 
yeah i was in california when it all started

and i am back home and try to catch up the news of the young man
thank god he is ok
 
Fire in another WV mine

I was this story on Yahoo before I went to bed. Mining is dangerous work and these incidents make me wonder if the workers need more protection. I hope these miners make it back to their families safe and sound.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/mine_fir...iM8lzis0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

Fire Erupts in W.Va. Mine; Two Missing
By LAWRENCE MESSINA, Associated Press Writer
2 hours, 35 minutes ago

A fire broke out in an underground coal mine in southern West Virginia late Thursday and two workers were unaccounted for, authorities said.

The fire was reported at the Aracoma Coal Co. in Mellville, about 60 miles southwest of Charleston.

Jeff Gillenwater, a spokesman for the mine's owner, Richmond, Va.-based Massey Energy, said the blaze began on a conveyer belt inside the mine and the mine itself was not on fire.

"It is not a raging fire. It is a belt line fire that caused smoke in the coal mine," Gillenwater told The Logan Banner newspaper. "There are two individuals we are currently trying to find in the coal mine."

Gillenwater said there is clean air in several sections of the mine. "These two guys know this coal mine well, and we're just hopeful mine rescue finds them quickly," he said.

A spokeswoman for Gov. Joe Manchin said she was told by officials from the state Office of Miners' Health Safety and Training that 12 miners had initially gone into the mine to start their shift and ran into some type of smoke or fire.

"They turned around and backed out and they realized there were two that weren't with them. The rescue crews are trying to determine their location," said Lara Ramsburg, Manchin's spokeswoman.

The fire was reported to Logan County's emergency center at 8:05 p.m. and appeared to be about 10,000 feet inside the mine, said Doug Conaway, director of the state Office of Miners' Health Safety and Training.

Four rescue teams had entered the mine and two were heading to the mine, he said. Manchin also was on the scene early Friday, and miners' families gathered at the Brightstar Freewill Baptist Church, about a mile away.

"All resources are either at the mine or on their way to the mine site," said Ramsburg.

The blaze occurred less than three weeks after an explosion at the International Coal Group's Sago Mine in Upshur County killed 12 miners.

The sole survivor of that blast, Randal McCloy Jr., 26, remained hospitalized Friday in a light coma at a hospital in Morgantown.

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INfamous key is.. Miners always corrputed freaky accident or else...
Isn't good idea have kept contuine miners..

What miners have good reason needy supplier ?
 
GalaxyAngel said:
INfamous key is.. Miners always corrputed freaky accident or else...
Isn't good idea have kept contuine miners..

What miners have good reason needy supplier ?

:dunno: me too, what miners working there for since there no gold but goals :?:
 
Coals to make the electricity running.... Miners go down, and digs coals and hauls in the truck and truck to dump coals in the electricities, power plants, etc to keep running.
 
I grew up in West Virginia, and all of my relatives, (real father, grandfathers, uncles, and cousins) are coal miners and some of them are retired.

Every time we get together, they do talk about coal mines, how dangerous it is, and blah blah blah.. But the salary is good for them, and they bring big heavy paycheck home to pay the bills and everything, but they don't worry about being trapped in there. My real father said, he was born, and got a job in coal mine, and but his name was written on the coal. I guess, I can't tell him what I want him to do. Like if I tell him, "Hey Dad, could you quit that job in coal mine?" He would say, "HELL NO WAY! I love my job what I am doing." :( I guess no one can't change him or tell him what to do. He was born and raise in the coal mine community, and grew up in the coal mine, and so on.

It does scare me if a phone rang or a police knocking the door at 3am or 6am and telling me that someone is trapped. All I have to is pray, and I remember my real father telling me, "if something happen to me in the mine, let you know that he loves me everyday". Geez, he is tough.
 
CrazyMomma said:
Coals to make the electricity running.... Miners go down, and digs coals and hauls in the truck and truck to dump coals in the electricities, power plants, etc to keep running.

oic, electricity needs not only water/dam also goals too, right?

my girls's great grandfather used to work as miner in Kellogg, Idaho, I didnt think of asking but now
 
Mine Fire Update

It isn't looking good for the two men. I've bolded a couple of things that summarize the situation now (1am Sat 1/21). The oxygen cannisters may last up to one hour for NORMAL breathing if they're like what I used in the Navy. I really hope these guys found fresh air.

Crews Drill to Find Trapped W.Va. Miners
By KELLEY SCHOONOVER, Associated Press Writer
53 minutes ago

Rescuers started drilling a hole late Friday into a smoky coal mine to help locate two miners missing after a conveyor belt caught fire deep underground. The incident was the second major mining accident in West Virginia in less than three weeks.

More than a day after the fire broke out, crews planned to drill 200 feet into a section of the mine and try to contact the men by pounding on the steel drill bit.

If they receive no response, rescuers planned to drop a camera and microphone into the hole, said Jesse Cole, an official with the Mine Safety and Health Administration.

Six teams were underground searching for the men, whose exact location was unknown, said Doug Conaway, director of the state Office of Miners' Health Safety and Training.

The missing men were equipped with oxygen canisters that typically produce about an hour's worth of air.


The fire broke out Thursday night at the Alma No. 1 mine. Rescuers were hampered by heavy smoke that cut visibility to 2 to 3 feet. After the blaze was brought somewhat under control Friday, rescuers spread out to search four tunnels, each about four miles long. The mine extends as much as 900 feet below ground.

About 20 rescue teams from four states were at the scene Friday night. Those rescuers in the mine were finding some pockets of fresh air, but Conaway said there was no way to tell if conditions had changed since Thursday night.

David Roberts, co-manager of Refab Co., a mining machinery repair company, said a friend on a mine rescue team told him it was very hot — up to 400 degrees — and smoky inside the shafts.

Twenty-one miners were in the southwestern West Virginia mine on Thursday when a carbon monoxide monitor about 10,000 feet from the entrance set off an alarm. Nineteen of the miners escaped.

Rescuers had hoped to use special phones that emit sensors to try to locate the missing men, but the terrain was too rough to use them.

The governor was with the miners' families, who along with friends and co-workers gathered at the Brightstar Freewill Baptist Church to wait for news. Reporters were barred from the church.

Earlier this month, the governor joined another group of miners and relatives of those trapped after an explosion at the International Coal Group's Sago Mine, on the northern side of the state. Twelve miners died in the disaster. The sole survivor, Randal McCloy Jr., 26, remained hospitalized in a light coma Friday.

"Sago is very fresh in everybody's mind, but this is a different scenario," Manchin said. He said the families were hopeful, but he added, "They know that the odds are a little bit long."

The governor said two widows who lost husbands in the Sago mine came to the scene with their children to visit families of the missing men.

"I'm still very hopeful, but I'm also a realist, too, and I know we're in a difficult situation," said Manchin. He said the families have requested that the miners' names not be released.

Manchin hinted that he would eventually seek mine reforms but would not provide details. "As soon as this rescue operation is completed ... I will have a statement that will change mining, not only in this state but across the country," the governor said.

Katharine W. Kenny, spokeswoman for Massey Energy, owner of mine operator Aracoma Coal, said the company was "very optimistic."

Air samples from a hole near the fire showed elevated levels of carbon monoxide, although not as severe as the levels at the Sago Mine. At one point, rescue teams were in the mine without breathing gear, Conaway said.

Robert Friend, acting deputy assistant secretary for MSHA, said there were some key differences between the Alma and Sago incidents.

The ventilation system continued to work at the Alma mine and no methane was detected coming out of the return, he said. That enabled rescuers to act more quickly.

The fire started where a side conveyor belt meets the main line that brings the coal out, authorities said.

Haskell Sheppard, 29, works the overnight shift as a repairman on the main conveyor belt. He said the line where the fire broke out had problems before, but nothing as serious as this. "Things are bound to tear up every once in a while," he said.

John Langton, MSHA's deputy administrator for coal mine safety and health, said belt fires can occur when belt rollers get stuck or out of alignment and rub against the structure supporting them. Another possible cause is the accumulation of coal or coal dust.

He said it's believed that the fire occurred on the belt drive, a big motor that powers the belt.

According to MSHA's Web site, the Alma mine received more than 90 citations from MSHA inspectors during 2005. The most recent were issued Dec. 20, when the mine was hit with seven violations for items such as its ventilation plan and its efforts to control coal dust and other combustible materials.

The mine was assessed $28,268 in penalties last year. It has not had a fatal accident since at least 1995, the earliest year for which records were kept. The mine had a better-than-average accident rate between 2001 and 2004, but last year 16 workers and one contractor were injured.

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Two more miners lost

Rescuers Find Bodies of Two W.Va. Miners
By LAWRENCE MESSINA, Associated Press Writer
5:30pm January 21, 2006

Rescuers on Saturday found the bodies of two coal miners who disappeared after a conveyor belt caught fire deep inside a coal mine.

The bodies were found in an area of the mine where rescue teams had been battling the fire for more than 40 hours.

"We have found the two miners we were looking for," said Doug Conaway, director of the state Office of Miners' Health Training and Safety. "Unfortunately we don't have a positive outcome."

The miners became separated Thursday evening as their 12-member crew tried to escape a conveyor belt fire at Aracoma Coal's Alma No. 1 mine in Melville, about 60 miles southwest of Charleston. The rest of the crew and nine other miners working in a different section of the mine escaped unharmed.

Gov. Joe Manchin and U.S. Sen. Jay Rockefeller informed families of the deaths at a church prior to making the announcement, along with Don Blankenship, chairman of the mine's owner, Massey Energy.

It was the second major mining accident in West Virginia in less than three weeks.

Earlier this month, an explosion at the Sago Mine, on the northern side of the state, led to the deaths of 12 miners. The sole survivor, Randal McCloy Jr., 26, remained hospitalized in a light coma Saturday.

At the Aracoma mine, the intensity of the heat and smoke had blocked rescue teams from getting beyond the burning conveyor belt, Conaway said. Heat from the fire had also caused the roof of the mine to deteriorate.

The victims were identified as Don I. Bragg, 33, and Ellery Hatfield, 47. Both were fathers with more than a decade of mining experience and had worked in the Alma mine for five years.

The two men had been equipped with oxygen canisters that typically produce about an hour's worth of air, but officials had initially said there were also pockets of good air inside the mine that they could have reached.

Rescue efforts inside the mine were hampered by heavy smoke that cut visibility to 2 to 3 feet. Teams were able to get into four tunnels, each about four miles long, but they couldn't get beyond the burning conveyor belt.

Officials emphasized that there were key differences between the Alma mine fire and the Jan 2. Sago mine explosion. For one, the carbon monoxide levels, while still higher than normal in the Alma mine, were not as severe, Conaway said.

Also, the ventilation system continued to work at the Alma mine and no methane was detected coming out, said Robert Friend, acting deputy assistant secretary for MSHA.

That enabled rescuers to get into the mine more quickly. The gases at the Sago Mine and damage to the ventilation system had prevented investigators from entering the mine until Saturday. It will likely be another week before they can reach the deepest parts of the mine and begin the physical investigation into what caused the explosion, said International Coal Group President Ben Hatfield.

The lone survivor from Sago, 26-year-old Randal McCloy Jr., remained hospitalized in a light coma Saturday.

Conveyor belt fires can occur when belt rollers get stuck or out of alignment and rub against the structure supporting them, said John Langton, MSHA's deputy administrator for coal mine safety and health. Another possible cause is the accumulation of coal dust.

Jimmy Marcum, a 54-year-old retired miner from Delbarton, said better equipment is needed to protect miners.

"I mean, they can send a man to the moon but they can't make a (oxygen canister) that will last at least 16 hours. ... That's what they need to do," Marcum said.
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Is there an easier way to get coals?

Why not just dig and dig and dig big holes....
Use many dynamites to explode to get to the coals?

Or use machines or robots to gather up coals..... And we can use computer and cameras to look around.
 
Mine Survivor's Wife Says His Fog Lifting

This is wonderful to hear. :applause:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060209...6VvzwcF;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

Mine Survivor's Wife Says His Fog Lifting
Thu Feb 9, 5:12 AM ET

The sole survivor of the Sago Mine disaster remains "in a fog," but is interacting with family members about a third of the time, his wife said.

Randal McCloy Jr. has said a few words and is connecting with relatives through his eyes, sounds, movements and facial expressions, according to his wife, Anna.

"It's like he's in a fog and this fog has to disappear," she told USA Today for a story in Thursday's editions. "As it disappears little by little, more pieces of Randy come through."

McCloy, 26, was part of a 13-member crew that was trapped in Upshur County's Sago Mine after an explosion Jan. 2. The crew was exposed to deadly carbon monoxide for more than 41 hours, and all but McCloy had died by the time searchers found them.

He was treated for kidney, lung, liver and heart damage, and now undergoes two hours of physical therapy and one hour of speech therapy daily at a rehabilitation hospital.

McCloy is showing progress, moving his limbs, tugging his hair and making "purposeful movements," said Dr. Russ Biundo, medical director of HealthSouth Mountain View, where McCloy is being treated.

"These movements show his nervous system is reconnecting. Obviously, I want more," Biundo told the newspaper.

Anna McCloy also said her husband left a letter for his wife and children that he wrote before he was rescued. The letter, found in the lunch box of another miner, said he was not afraid of death and that his family should not grieve for long.

"Anna, I love you so much. To my son, trust in the Lord. To my daughter, stay sweet," Anna McCloy recited from the letter. "Don't grieve long. I want you to be happy in life."

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Some air packs didn’t work

BUCKHANNON, W.Va. - Trapped deep below ground by poisonous gases, the Sago miners realized at least four of their air packs did not work and were forced to share the devices as they desperately pounded away with a sledgehammer in hopes of letting rescuers know where to find them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12515482/
 
FreeWoman77 said:
BUCKHANNON, W.Va. - Trapped deep below ground by poisonous gases, the Sago miners realized at least four of their air packs did not work and were forced to share the devices as they desperately pounded away with a sledgehammer in hopes of letting rescuers know where to find them.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12515482/


The not working air packs need to be investgated why it happened while others were working fine.
 
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