Man killed 'peeing on power line'

Steel X said:
Pee is made out of water so...yea it does conduct electricity if you are too close to the power line, it will go thru the pee to your body damaging you pretty bad depending on the amount of voltage there.
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Fact: Pure water does not conduct electricity at all.
 
kokonut said:
Fact: Pure water does not conduct electricity at all.
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Everything is relative, so yes, it will conduct electricity--but very very little compared to city water, well water, or salt water. The reason is that the way a liquid conducts electricity is by the positively or negatively charged ions that are in it actually moving from one of the electrodes to the other, carrying charge (electricity) with them. Salt water has salt in it, NaCl, which readily ionizes or dissociates to ions of Na+ and Cl- which can float through the water carrying charge and thus conducting electricity.

Distilled water is water that was boiled to steam and recondensed to water. Virtually all the salt that was originally in it is left behind as the pure water boils away. So distilled water is relatively pure H2O (HOH). Water can ionize to H+ and OH- like salt does, but it ionizes to a far, far, far, lesser degree and is therefore very resistant to conducting electricity.

Will distilled water conduct electricity
 
Bottesini said:
Everything is relative, so yes, it will conduct electricity--but very very little compared to city water, well water, or salt water. The reason is that the way a liquid conducts electricity is by the positively or negatively charged ions that are in it actually moving from one of the electrodes to the other, carrying charge (electricity) with them. Salt water has salt in it, NaCl, which readily ionizes or dissociates to ions of Na+ and Cl- which can float through the water carrying charge and thus conducting electricity.

Distilled water is water that was boiled to steam and recondensed to water. Virtually all the salt that was originally in it is left behind as the pure water boils away. So distilled water is relatively pure H2O (HOH). Water can ionize to H+ and OH- like salt does, but it ionizes to a far, far, far, lesser degree and is therefore very resistant to conducting electricity.

Will distilled water conduct electricity
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Not when it comes to absolutely pure water containing absolutely no ions in it.
Fundamentals of environmental chemistry - Google Books
 
Hey, What if the guy was driving an Ion when he hit the pole???? :hmm:
 
kokonut said:
Not when it comes to absolutely pure water containing absolutely no ions in it.
Fundamentals of environmental chemistry - Google Books
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Ok.
Off topic, and please don't say Google is my friend.

Can 10000 volts of electricity kill you? At Walmart when my husband was buying a micro SD card, it didn't come off the rack and when the employee unlocked it for him, he said it is hooked up to that amount of electricity to deter shoplifters.
 
Bottesini said:
Ok.
Off topic, and please don't say Google is my friend.

Can 10000 volts of electricity kill you? At Walmart when my husband was buying a micro SD card, it didn't come off the rack and when the employee unlocked it for him, he said it is hooked up to that amount of electricity to deter shoplifters.
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Rather it's the amount of current (ampheres) is the bigger concern. Even at 10, 20 or 30 volts and with the right amount of electrical current coursing out it can injure or kill you. You car battery is a 12-volt but has an extremely high current designed to be released en masse in one jolt so as to turn the engine on. What Walmart has is designed to give a somewhat painful/surprising shock but the electical current is so low it wouldn't effect your muscles (such as seizing it up) and other organs. Drag your feet with shoes on across a carpet and zap someone has the equivalent voltage of 20,000 volts shooting out at your fingertip.
 
I wonder if alcohol was involved in this.

First of all the man crashed into a utility pole hard enough to down a power line and did not call the authorities. Knowing he caused damages.

Then he decided to whip it out to relieve himself. We all know what happened after that.

:hmm:
 
kokonut said:
Rather it's the amount of current (ampheres) is the bigger concern. Even at 10, 20 or 30 volts and with the right amount of electrical current coursing out it can injure or kill you. You car battery is a 12-volt but has an extremely high current designed to be released en masse in one jolt so as to turn the engine on. What Walmart has is designed to give a somewhat painful/surprising shock but the electical current is so low it wouldn't effect your muscles (such as seizing it up) and other organs. Drag your feet with shoes on across a carpet and zap someone has the equivalent voltage of 20,000 volts shooting out at your fingertip.
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Thanks.
 
kokonut said:
Rather it's the amount of current (ampheres) is the bigger concern. Even at 10, 20 or 30 volts and with the right amount of electrical current coursing out it can injure or kill you. You car battery is a 12-volt but has an extremely high current designed to be released en masse in one jolt so as to turn the engine on. What Walmart has is designed to give a somewhat painful/surprising shock but the electical current is so low it wouldn't effect your muscles (such as seizing it up) and other organs. Drag your feet with shoes on across a carpet and zap someone has the equivalent voltage of 20,000 volts shooting out at your fingertip.
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:hmm:

Now what category would a taiser gun fall in?

Since those have killed.

Knowing it is more that a mere static shock.

Another words how many volts or whatnot is distributed to a person? When the device is used?

Just curious.
 
Steel X said:
Pee is made out of water so...yea it does conduct electricity if you are too close to the power line, it will go thru the pee to your body damaging you pretty bad depending on the amount of voltage there.
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kokonut said:
Fact: Pure water does not conduct electricity at all.
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yep. as long as you got some salt (sodium) in your liquid, it is conductive. beside - we need sodium to survive.

btw - welcome back kokonut :wave:
 
It depends of voltage do you get an electric shock. High voltage powerlines can give you a shock and you don't have to even touch it.
But I was going to tell an another story. When we were kids, one of our friends cousin is called "Solid bonehead". I remember when somebody said to him, that he wont dare to pee on e-shepard. "Bonehead" said that he has guts to do it if we don't watch. He did it. Later somebody said that he maight not have own children ever, when he's done that stupped thing, but we were kids and didn't undertstand that time what kind of consequences it would be.
 
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