Looking For Gay Couples To Move Into My Town

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Heath - TIME OUT...did you read my post?

 

[Dennis S.]

I agree with some of them.

Then enlighten us as to which parts don't violate your "Because everybody at least knows that kid is not getting sodomized in the privacy of that sick homosexual couple's home and he is made to behave very good with no mind of his own and play the piano and have emotionally disturbed personality with sad sick depression of an deranged individual when that kid grows up to be an adult with dirty sick ratty beard, sad eyes and goes in the bathroom to be a pete puffer which I have seen so many times..." statement.

You can't tell me you "agree with some" of them. Either tell me you agree with all of them or tell me why you don't agree with some of them. This is a debate, Heath. The rules of debate require you to give me reasons why you disagree.

 

[Heath]

I'm going to get back on topic.

I don't think a neighbor is "good" or "bad" solely based on their choice of sexuality. Heck, most of the time, I have no clue who my neighbors really are! Their home, until it infringes on my property values or safety, is their business.

Here is where I agree but not wholeheartedly. Homosexuality spreads HIV / AIDS which is a fatal disease.

That means:

1) Their sexuality, gender, race, religion, employment, guests, disability, and various other things have ZERO impact on my property or safety.

Yes, Until my property or my safety is threatened then I will have to protect myself. I don't go out looking for somebody to attack if that is what you think. :roll:



2) When they start doing things that affect my property or safety, then we have a problem. No meth labs, no setting things on fire, no putting cars up on blocks on the front lawn, no not mowing the grass, no gun-firing ranges, no taking up all the curbside car parking, and no vandalism.

I agree with all of these except a gun firing range. It is okay to have a gun firing range indoors or outdoors at a set hour everyday where the general public can come to practice deer hunting or self defense or just simply shoot for the pleasure of it as a hobby.

3) I really don't care what you're doing in the bedroom with consenting adults. Really. Unless it involves kids or farm animals, I wish your bedroom to be a rockin' party just like I enjoy my bedroom with my wife. I really don't believe your bedroom activities lead to corruption of society's morals. Enjoy!

Between adults as long as it does not involve homosexuality or the spreading further of the HIV / AIDS virus. Homosexuality has destroyed many nations and societies and see what is happening today also happened in Biblical times too. If it involves animals then they are sick people !!!!! and no way, man !!!!! If child sexual abuse, dealt with swiftly !!!!!! No sympathy. No excuses from him.

 

[Teresh]

No, it is a talking and debating here in Christianity forum.

Um, no, this is "On-topic Debates". "Christianity, Religion, Spiritual & Other Beliefs" is a different forum. Sorry, Heath, but you're actually factually incorrect on this one. It's not a matter of interpretation or how you see it--quite simply, you're wrong.

Does phpBB not have a ban function? Because this seems like a reflex ban situation to me ...

Technical response: This forum doesn't use phpBB, it uses vBulletin which is a completely different piece of software.

Practical response: vBulletin does indeed have a ban function.

 

[Heath]

Then enlighten us as to which parts don't violate your "Because everybody at least knows that kid is not getting sodomized in the privacy of that sick homosexual couple's home and he is made to behave very good with no mind of his own and play the piano and have emotionally disturbed personality with sad sick depression of an deranged individual when that kid grows up to be an adult with dirty sick ratty beard, sad eyes and goes in the bathroom to be a pete puffer which I have seen so many times..." statement.

You can't tell me you "agree with some" of them. Either tell me you agree with all of them or tell me why you don't agree with some of them. This is a debate, Heath. The rules of debate require you to give me reasons why you disagree.

I never compromised what I said. My statement stands and I already gave you my reason based on my experience and what I have seen.

 

[Heath]

I have been asked to stop from debating further. At least you know where I stand on this issue. Thank you very much.

 

[Teresh]

Here is where I agree but not wholeheartedly. Homosexuality spreads HIV / AIDS which is a fatal disease.

Sex involving a man spreads HIV. I'm a lesbian, but my chances of contracting HIV from sex are essentially nil. If you're so afraid of HIV, maybe you should have a sex change and become a lesbian. You'll never get HIV that way.

AIDS is not a disease, it's a condition that develops as a result of infection by the HIV. You're misusing the term.

Yes, Until my property or my safety is threatened then I will have to protect myself. I don't go out looking for somebody to attack if that is what you think.

A gay neighbor is not threatening you simply by existing. You just want to believe that they are so you can justify attacking them. You're not "looking for someone to attack". Actually, what you're doing is worse. You want to believe you're a good person, so you try to make it seem like, at least in your own mind, the atrocities you commit against other human beings are actually their fault.

 

[netrox]

The average homosexual's lifespan is approximately 35 to 40 years old, Meanwhile straight person's lifespan is approximately 90 years old. Which one is more natural ?

That is still unproven and often cited by the religious right. The seemingly short lifespan is because of HIV, not because of their sexuality. If you remove HIV, it becomes a different story. One statistics regarding the short lifespan of gays, the scientists who did the statistics warned the religious right not to twist their research to fit their hateful agenda and said there were many variables in it.

Now, keep in mind - you are using "lifespan" as if longer is better so with that logic, then blacks are no good because their lifespan is shorter than whites. It's well documented but that doesn't give a valid reason why blacks are inferior. They aren't. The stresses that blacks deal with prejudices take a toll on their health - they're more likely to have hypertension from many years of chronic stress and their difficulties with getting a good paying job is a huge factor.

Gays face similiar problems. They are constantly stressed out with so much prejudice and it can take a toll on their health. They sleep around because they feel worthless and they figured they're not going to live long because they have this wrong idea that they're meant to die young. HIV is a grave threat to the gay community and remains a serious problem despite incredible medical advances in treating HIV.

HOWEVER if you look at the gays in their 30's, their average lifespan totally changes; they begin to live longer and longer. Why? Because that's usually the age when they start to get serious with career, family, home and relationship. Their risk of getting HIV drops dramatically. That's why those statistics become meaningless.

Besides, the average lifespan during Jesus' era was 25 years.

 

[netrox]

Homosexuality has destroyed many nations and societies and see what is happening today also happened in Biblical times too.

There is not a single shred of evidence to support that. Nada.

 

[Foxrac]

Between adults as long as it does not involve homosexuality or the spreading further of the HIV / AIDS virus. Homosexuality has destroyed many nations and societies and see what is happening today also happened in Biblical times too. If it involves animals then they are sick people !!!!! and no way, man !!!!! If child sexual abuse, dealt with swiftly !!!!!! No sympathy. No excuses from him.

Most heterosexual get AIDS and HIV than homosexual does. You are misunderstood about homosexul culture, unlike in 70's and 80's, that where more homosexual got AIDS/HIV because it's new sex oriention that started in around 1950's but new program are coming here to educate them to using condom, prevet to get AIDS/HIV and explain about good life in homosexual culture. After 90's, AIDS/HIV for homosexual are declining since heterosexual are rising too, now... most heterosexual get AIDS and HIV than homosexual does.

I have boyfriend for about 2 years and I had been sex with few other guys with condom, most are oral sex and anal sex at once. I have wonderful life in homosexual culture, never got any problem unlike heterosexual does. Our gay friends are just pride about USA, relax in world and great life, our styles are fine... no churches, no bible book, no worry about religion and belief are free for us, homosexual has wonderful life and little longer at median age for death than heterosexual does.

 

[Foxrac]

I'm feel that we need talk to Alex or other moderators about serious issues with Heath, many forumers are sick of him too. We cannot be tolerate about homophobia anymore but this forum need be strict based on homophobia issues, and other against on civil rights issues too. This thread is enough with all homophobia and conservative biased, Heath got on my nerves.

Finally, that time is up and I'm going talk to Alex via PM about issues with Heath that caused other forumers that feel uncomfortable, want discuss about right in topic but Heath got all messed up and disrespect to netrox too.

 

[netrox]

I know that gay people support sodomizing the Boys Scouts of America and The Gay and Lesbian Alliance is aligned with the organization:
http://www.nambla.org/

You are lying through your teeth. NAMBLA is condemned by virtually all gay organizations. It's a fringe group, just like you're a fringe lunatic of a Christian religion.

Pedophilia is not new, it was extremely common (unfortunately still is to this day). It's very much likely that Virgin Mary had Jesus when she was only a young teenager. Many young girls, as young as 13, were married back then. No one cared or objected; many fathers literally sold their daughters to men in marriage. Also, back then, many Greeks practiced homosexual pedophilia. Older men thought they would make young boys become real men. Their ideas were totally different and their cultures were different too.

Pedophilia is no longer accepted nowadays for several good reasons - we have longer lifespan and we feel it's in our best interest to wait. Pedophilia carries its risks - it can cause unwanted pregnancy (heterosexual pedophilia) and it can cause mental problems. I feel that it's justified to ban pedophilia.

But for you to equate homosexuality to pedophilia just ticks me off because that is totally false.

 

[netrox]

HIV devastated the gay community in the 1980's. People clearly have no idea how devastated the gays were to lose thier parnters to HIV. They were so scared and they became extremely political.

So in a way, HIV helped them come out.

You should see "Longtime Companion" - a tragic movie about gays who lost their beloved ones to AIDS. It's an old movie but it teaches that they're human and their capacity to love is just as equal as heterosexuals. My mom told me last week that she found the tape and watched it and said she couldn't believe that she still learns so much.

One more thing, worldwide, HIV kills more heterosexuals than homosexuals but in USA in its first phase, it's homosexuals that HIV kills more becuase of their small community and their excessive sexual activities. Fortunately, the infection rate dropped significantly and the AIDS death rate is dropping every year thanks to medical advances. Unforutnately, now HIV is infecting more and more heterosexuals. In fact, I read that one out of 20 people in D.C. carries HIV. That's how bad it is. Now, the statistics show that the majority of HIV carriers in USA are blacks (that's really bad because blacks are still a minority yet make the most of AIDS cases!).

I guess you should start hating blacks too since they're carrying HIV too.

 

[MsGiglz]

I found this somewhere .. "- Straight people have come to see that their gay friends who've married are little different then their straight neighbors who've married. This is underscoring the fact that being gay is perfectly natural. Bruce Bagemihl documents over 450 animal species that reflect homosexual behavior in his book, "Biological Exuberance." God made homosexuality natural in nature and humans are a part of God's creation of nature. "

Umm.. interesting..

whats more.. I agreed that Gay parents are nothing wrong to have child to raise..
I have gay couples living in this neighbor.. they are wonderful people to hang out once in while.. they always busy with their lives.. they have jobs, they kept their home so tidy and neat.. today, they came over and asked me if I did the arbor.. that was the best conversations in this neighbors for long time, they just amazing how much i worked hard.. and kids and kept myself busy.. also, they loved Rocky!.. I told them that i got warning tickets from animal control that Rocky barking constantly.. they said.. No way!, your dog barking sound like exciting and want to play.. whining or bark that he wants come in... they said, if animal control or people complaining, tell them off.. Rocky is our ears.. and give me or my man time to get him cuz we cant hear the barking.. but .. there were dogs walking by with couples, the gay couples understand why Rocky is aggersative barking at other dogs whatever he sees... it called "red zone" its not good.. gay couples give suggestions, I told them that i tried alot of things, ciltrian (sp? misquotes candle for oustide) but spray.. in the collar box, when he barks, it spray.. it didnt work .. and remote trainer.. (when you press button, high pitch that we cant hear).. it didnt work.. I start to spray water at him but i dont want him scared of water. :/

Anyway.. Gay couples talk to our kids, they are really kind and sweet.. just shock that our kids can signs even marshalee only 22 months old can signs.. then they left..

So, I noticed that Gay couples raising kids did great job and lead them best life, and didnt mean that they will become gay.. pffth..

 

[GalaxyAngel]

This is the Christianity forum.

Excuse me.. Heath.. err.. you're total BLIND.. and not even pay attention CAREFULLY..

This is NOT the Christianity forum thread...

The topic Debates... is general debate discussion.. Why you're way off the topic about Christianity. I believe you're whipping everyone's back!
Shame you way off the topic!

 

[Foxrac]

Excuse me.. Heath.. err.. you're total BLIND.. and not even pay attention CAREFULLY..

This is NOT the Christianity forum thread...

The topic Debates... is general debate discussion.. Why you're way off the topic about Christianity. I believe you're whipping everyone's back!
Shame you way off the topic!

Have you got PM?

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

There are many heterosexual families with stellar records of raising good kids and you are trying to present the homosexual couple as an acceptable alternative when everybody knows the gay couple will try to involve their child in homosexuality then the police catches them in a child sexual abuse case. I would rather have kids who are going through a phase trying to be rebellious and cool teenagers then actually showing them how to live the right way than to see my kids get killed by the immoral homosexual behavior and the deadly virus called HIV / AIDS. My kids will go on to college and live a normal law abiding life while your confused depressed AIDS infected kids will continue to seek out homosexual partners to get sodomized for old times sake because they are sexually frustrated kids now in need of dealing with major life crisis issues. Homosexuality is not acceptable in God's eyes nor in people's eyes. Everybody inwardly knows that homosexuality is not normal behavior. Homosexuality is devaint behavior period no matter how you present it as acceptable... Remember how the homosexuals tried to scream for access to sodomize the Boys Scout of America kids in the woods and the judge and the whole world said No ! Good for that judge and good for those who know homosexuality is wrong !!!!!

Oh my fucking god.

For shit's sake, just cause a couple is homosexual does not mean the child is going to be homosexual. If you did some research, you would know that it would be rare that a child of a homosexual couple would turn out to be gay too as well. RARE.

*rolls eyes*

 

[Foxrac]

Oh my fucking god.

For shit's sake, just cause a couple is homosexual does not mean the child is going to be homosexual. If you did some research, you would know that it would be rare that a child of a homosexual couple would turn out to be gay too as well. RARE.

*rolls eyes*

welcome to this thread

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

That is liberal establishment propandga and brainwashed facts. Homosexuality is a mental illness. I don't have a sick mind. You do have a sick mind to be allowing homosexuals to abuse their children in your own neighborhood.

Geez.

The DSM does not have homosexuality down as a mental illness anymore, they took it off the books back in the 70s. That is a very old way of thinking. Sad.

FOR SHIT'S SAKE...

HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A MENTAL ILLNESS!

 

[LuciaDisturbed]

And I will not allow child abuse to happen in any form wheter the person is straight or gay. I am not twisting your words and I brought it up because I know that gay people support sodomizing the Boys Scouts of America and The Gay and Lesbian Alliance is aligned with the organization:
http://www.nambla.org/

Oh my fucking god.

You just LIKE to find the BAD in EVERY DAMN THING, don't you?!

I know for a fact that the gay community FROWNS on sexual abuse. BIG TIME.

So, don't try to twist it all just cause you don't like it that men like men and women like women.