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Angry Obama Seeks to Deflect Blame for Gulf Oil Spill Crisis - Political Hotsheet - CBS News


Who is the "current" POTUS?

Oh .... that would be ..... Obama.


You had executives of BP and Transocean and Halliburton falling over each other to point the finger of blame at somebody else."
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It is now officially Obama's fault.

In case you have not gotten the memo, you have to replace your bumper stickers from "Its Bush's fault" to "Its Obama's fault".

Thank you for paying attention .... :roll:


"For too long, for a decade or more, there has been a cozy relationship between the oil companies and the federal agency that permits them to drill. It seems as if permits were too often issued based on little more than assurances of safety from the oil companies. That cannot and will not happen anymore."
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So ... who gave permission to drill offshore recently?

Oh .... that would be .... hmmmm .... OBAMA!
 
Steinhauer said:
So ... who gave permission to drill offshore recently?

Oh .... that would be .... hmmmm .... OBAMA!
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Right. So they erected this platform, drilled deep, and had a leak, all in a couple of month's time. Isn't technology great?

BTW, most of the Conservatives I read want oil drilling expanded. You would be a lone wolf if you differ.
 
The Exxon Valdez incident certainly didn't reduce the number of oil shipping (or ships for that matter).
 
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saywhatkid said:
Right. So they erected this platform, drilled deep, and had a leak, all in a couple of month's time. Isn't technology great?

BTW, most of the Conservatives I read want oil drilling expanded. You would be a lone wolf if you differ.
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Still trying to blame this on Bush and Republicans? :roll:

Really .... you repeat that as many times as you want to ... does not make it true.
 
I am told the reason for the spill is having used old, faulty equipment.

Obama gave permission to drill.

Who made the decision to use old, faulty equipment, without repairing it?
 
Berry said:
I am told the reason for the spill is having used old, faulty equipment.

Obama gave permission to drill.

Who made the decision to use old, faulty equipment, without repairing it?
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Obama. (read your second sentence).
 
Who is making the decisions at the oil companies? They aren't listening to the engineers. Engineers don't make stupid mistakes like failing to consider water pressure and temperature in efforts to stop the oil leak.
 
Berry said:
I am told the reason for the spill is having used old, faulty equipment.

Obama gave permission to drill.

Who made the decision to use old, faulty equipment, without repairing it?
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this oil rig was ordered on December 1998. It was laid down on March 21, 2000. It was completed on 2001. It was acquired by Transocean in 2001. BP leased it until 2013.

All this... was under Bush Administration
 
Jiro said:
this oil rig was ordered on December 1998. It was laid down on March 21, 2000. It was completed on 2001. It was acquired by Transocean in 2001. BP leased it until 2013.

All this... was under Bush Administration
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While owned by S. Korea .... :roll:

And given permission to drill by Obama. (what that means is, you can no longer blame Bush - please refer to the memo - Obama is the current POTUS).
 
oh - another thing ya'all didn't know. They just made $560 million from this disaster because of insurance policy they had on this rig. ka-ching!
 
How can Hyundai be responsible for this oil rig that was built nearly 10 years ago? They are not responsible for maintenance and upgrade. in 2002, this oil rig was upgraded with some monitoring equipment which the technicians in Texas can receive real-time data from it.
 
My boss can give me permission to drive a forklift.

If I believe for any reason the forklift to be unsafe - Then I do not drive it. If I do drive it then I made the decision to do so... And any subsequent accident is my negligent fault.

If my boss orders me to drive it then it is not my decision.

Permission is not decision.

Did Obama give permission to use them or did he order them to be used?
 
Jiro, in the magical world of law suits, the court can apportion the blame. That's why all of the entities are busy pointing fingers at each other. Dump as much of the responsibility on the other guy as possible.
 
OBAMA ADMIN GAVE RIG 'SAFETY AWARD' LAST YEAR

The federal agency responsible for ensuring that the Deepwater Horizon was operating safely before it exploded last month fell well short of its own policy that the rig be inspected at least once per month,
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AP IMPACT: Fed'l inspections on rig not as claimed - Yahoo! News

Hmm...that cozy and special relationship he's trying feverishly to avoid that perception upon himself?

Since January 2005, inspectors issued just one minor infraction for the rig. That strong track record led the agency last year to herald the Deepwater Horizon as an industry model for safety.

The inspection gaps are the latest in a series of questions raised about the agency's oversight of the oil drilling industry. Members of Congress and President Barack Obama have criticized what they call the cozy relationship between regulators and oil companies and vowed to reform MMS, which both regulates the industry and collects billions in royalties from it.

Earlier AP investigations have shown that the doomed rig was allowed to operate without safety documentation required by MMS regulations for the exact disaster scenario that occurred; that the cutoff valve which failed has repeatedly broken down at other wells in the years since regulators weakened testing requirements; and that regulation is so lax that some key safety aspects on rigs are decided almost entirely by the companies doing the work.
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Steinhauer said:
Still trying to blame this on Bush and Republicans? :roll:

Really .... you repeat that as many times as you want to ... does not make it true.
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Nowhere did I say that Bush was responsible, nor did I mention Republicans. You decided, based on the timing of the event, that Obama is to blame. He mush have helicoptered out there, donned some Scuba gear and a cutting torch, and made it happen.

Feel free to bash a political party. It is what you do. I never blamed Bush for 9-11 or any other disaster that occured during his administration, with the exception of the economic collapse and the Iraq blunder.

I am not blaming any politicians. I am blaming the people in charge of the rig.
 
kokonut said:
OBAMA ADMIN GAVE RIG 'SAFETY AWARD' LAST YEAR


AP IMPACT: Fed'l inspections on rig not as claimed - Yahoo! News

Hmm...that cozy and special relationship he's trying feverishly to avoid that perception upon himself?
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Oops. Reminds me of the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis, (8/2007) but that was inspected during the Bush administration. However, I did not blame politicians for the failure of the bridge, nor the poor inspection. I blame the inspection team.

Any person in power can be held liable for the work of their crews, but it is becoming redundant to put blame for every problem on Obama. However, that is what you do. *shrugs*
 
saywhatkid said:
Oops. Reminds me of the I-35 bridge collapse in Minneapolis, (8/2007) but that was inspected during the Bush administration. However, I did not blame politicians for the failure of the bridge, nor the poor inspection. I blame the inspection team.

Any person in power can be held liable for the work of their crews, but it is becoming redundant to put blame for every problem on Obama. However, that is what you do. *shrugs*
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Did Bush give a safety award to the bridge safety inspectors there?
 
saywhatkid said:
Any person in power can be held liable for the work of their crews, but it is becoming redundant to put blame for every problem on Obama. However, that is what you do. *shrugs*[/SIZE]
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Obama had the habit of doing that on blaming others for more than 17 months so far. I don't even think Bush ever did the pointing of the finger to others as a habit. Even CBS’s White House correspondent can’t quite stomach the irony.
Angry Obama Seeks to Deflect Blame for Gulf Oil Spill Crisis - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Put things into perspective, doesn't it. :hmm:
 
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