Is society more tolerant with teenage boys than teenage girls??

[KarissaMann05]

Teenage years are difficult regardless.

My question is are we more leaniant towards teenage boys going out than teenage girls?

Do we tend to worry more about the girl than we do about the boy?

Why?

To me, it's somewhat true but I see differently about genders in society. I think it's better for me to keep myself down since my opinion & POV is much different than those posts in this thread...

By the way, it's pretty interesting here.

 

[darkdog]

When it comes to male and female behavior, it all comes down to nature and nurture. For me the question is not "is it nature? is it nurture?" Because it IS both. The question should be "How MUCH of nature and how MUCH of nurture" determines human behavior.

Sorry I haven't posted for a few days. You hit the nail on the head there. What I'm trying to figure out is how the social construct theory answers those questions. For instance, I don't have a hard time buying that the hair length question (boys have short hair, girls have long) is mostly a nurture thing. However, when it comes to things like the tendency of girls to prefer "girly" dolls and boys to prefer action figures, I'm really skeptical if the social construct theory says there's nothing innate about that. That's why I'm curious what the theory says about traits like that and how it reached such conclusions.

 

[jillio]

Sorry I haven't posted for a few days. You hit the nail on the head there. What I'm trying to figure out is how the social construct theory answers those questions. For instance, I don't have a hard time buying that the hair length question (boys have short hair, girls have long) is mostly a nurture thing. However, when it comes to things like the tendency of girls to prefer "girly" dolls and boys to prefer action figures, I'm really skeptical if the social construct theory says there's nothing innate about that. That's why I'm curious what the theory says about traits like that and how it reached such conclusions.

The tendency is there because the behavior is reinforced, oftentimes in very very subtle ways. And quite often, the reinforcement begins at birth.

 

[shel90]

I am saying that gender is a social construct. For example, that boys should like the color blue and girls should like pink because it is "inborn." When really, that is totally cultural.

When it comes to male and female behavior, it all comes down to nature and nurture. For me the question is not "is it nature? is it nurture?" Because it IS both. The question should be "How MUCH of nature and how MUCH of nurture" determines human behavior.

Sex is not a social construct, but you could argue that it is. For example intersex individuals are often operated on as infants to be "male" or "female." This is scary because the correct sex is not always chosen, and not all intersex people want to be operated on. But that is a whooole other topic. hehe.

That is a question that will probably never be answered because it is subjective.

 

[jillio]

That is a question that will probably never be answered because it is subjective.

True. I had a clinical psych prof that used to say it was 100% of both...meaning that you can't separate one from the other because they are so closely intertwined. In other words, nature often determines how you are nurtured by others, and the way you have been nurtured becomes your nature.

 

[Babyblue]

True. I had a clinical psych prof that used to say it was 100% of both...meaning that you can't separate one from the other because they are so closely intertwined. In other words, nature often determines how you are nurtured by others, and the way you have been nurtured becomes your nature.

So you mean by?

By saying if a child is raised by gay parents. The child will be gay?

Saying two females or vice versa. That child was nurtured in that environment they will be gay?

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm trying to understand so please do not be offended by my question.

I have seen children of gay parents before one is gay and the other isn't.

Both have the same natural mother and father. Before the mom came out of the closet. She had them during a heterosexual marriage.

 

[jillio]

So you mean by?

By saying if a child is raised by gay parents. The child will be gay?

Saying two females or vice versa. That child was nurtured in that environment they will be gay?

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm trying to understand so please do not be offended by my question.

I have seen children of gay parents before one is gay and the other isn't.

Both have the same natural mother and father. Before the mom came out of the closet. She had them during a heterosexual marriage.

No, that isn't what I am saying, but I see where you are going. A male raised by 2 women might perhaps turn out to be a more sensitive and nurturing person because of the parental influence.

What I am referring to, for instance, is a baby that is born with a disagreeable temperment. We all have known infants that were very difficult to comfort due to their innate characteristics. Babies that are difficult to nurture will not receive the same degree of nurturing that an infant that smiles and coos and rewards the caregiver for their efforts. So the difficult child receives a different type of nurturing, and that reinforces the nature of their personality. The same with the agreeable child.

 

[SFShawn13]

So you mean by?

By saying if a child is raised by gay parents. The child will be gay?

Saying two females or vice versa. That child was nurtured in that environment they will be gay?

I'm not trying to upset anyone. I'm trying to understand so please do not be offended by my question.

I have seen children of gay parents before one is gay and the other isn't.

Both have the same natural mother and father. Before the mom came out of the closet. She had them during a heterosexual marriage.

No, definately not. The majority of people who raise gays are heterosexuals. We do not live in a culture that praises homosexuality, anyways.

 

[SFShawn13]

why was jillio banned?

 

[SFShawn13]

Sorry I haven't posted for a few days. You hit the nail on the head there. What I'm trying to figure out is how the social construct theory answers those questions. For instance, I don't have a hard time buying that the hair length question (boys have short hair, girls have long) is mostly a nurture thing. However, when it comes to things like the tendency of girls to prefer "girly" dolls and boys to prefer action figures, I'm really skeptical if the social construct theory says there's nothing innate about that. That's why I'm curious what the theory says about traits like that and how it reached such conclusions.

Because we study other cultures where our gender norms do not exist.

 

[Chuck]

Boys will always have more freedom simply because they can take care of themselves. Women always have to be in groups or at least in pairs if they go out at night. Its rare when I see a woman walking by herself at sunset/night time.

I don't think society is more tolerant with teenage boys, in fact they are more strict, especially with the law.