I would like your opinion on something.

jillio said:
:laugh2: Still yours to tell (or project...whichever!):giggle: Point is, whytell that so and so is gay ahead of time? Like you said, they will probably figure it out when they meet her.:P
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Funny thing is my dad is either oblivious to the fact or in denial. Everyone at church probably knows but is in denial that one of their own is gay. Maybe when I finally decide to come out officially to everyone it won't be a big deal. But thing is if I outright told my parents that I was openly gay I would probably be kicked out.

I even defended homosexuality somehow without outing myself as this was to some 'friends' of mine on facebook that were saying that 'Glee' was influencing teenagers that a gay couple should be prom king and queen. I told them I would not be teaching my child to judge something she doesn't understand. They said it's not a matter of us judging it is a matter of God judging and the bible's clear stance on homosexuality as a sin blah blah blah. The guy that started it is a student of Theology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth, TX and a spoiled brat at best.

My thing is why would the God of the universe that proclaims to love me also condemn my feelings and emotions as 'sin' and that is abhorred?
 
Loghead said:
Most people are unaware of the dos and don'ts when it comes to one's sexual orientation. I see no need for WDYS to scold her sister as her sister is likely new to the concept as are most people in today's society. WDYS could, however, politely inform her sister that she does not believe it to be appropriate to announce people's sexual orientation without their consent.
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If she is new to the concept, then a little scolding might prevent her from doing it again.

But, the point is, whether it is someone's sexual orientation, or another piece of personal information, you don't tell it unless it is yours to tell. Period. That is gossiping and sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.
 
jillio said:
If she is new to the concept, then a little scolding might prevent her from doing it again.

But, the point is, whether it is someone's sexual orientation, or another piece of personal information, you don't tell it unless it is yours to tell. Period. That is gossiping and sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.
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But you are overlooking my point about prior behavior. If this is the sister who wrote the cackling witches poem for their mother's funeral, I think she may have some problems.
 
Dixie said:
Funny thing is my dad is either oblivious to the fact or in denial. Everyone at church probably knows but is in denial that one of their own is gay. Maybe when I finally decide to come out officially to everyone it won't be a big deal. But thing is if I outright told my parents that I was openly gay I would probably be kicked out.

I even defended homosexuality somehow without outing myself as this was to some 'friends' of mine on facebook that were saying that 'Glee' was influencing teenagers that a gay couple should be prom king and queen. I told them I would not be teaching my child to judge something she doesn't understand. They said it's not a matter of us judging it is a matter of God judging and the bible's clear stance on homosexuality as a sin blah blah blah. The guy that started it is a student of Theology at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Ft. Worth, TX and a spoiled brat at best.

My thing is why would the God of the universe that proclaims to love me also condemn my feelings and emotions as 'sin' and that is abhorred?
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Probably denial. It is amazing what people can turn a blind eye to! If they don't see it, they will never have to discuss it with you.

BTW: agree 110% on the God of the universe statement.

The guy I have been dating for several years had his son come to him about a year or so ago to tell him he was gay. My guy's response was: "I wondered when you were going to get around to mentioning that to me.":P I thought that was the coolest response ever.
 
Dixie said:
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My thing is why would the God of the universe that proclaims to love me also condemn my feelings and emotions as 'sin' and that is abhorred?
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Pretty simple to understand really. I assume you have rules for your DD. I seem to remember something about clothing and stomping off mad for one. I am sure you still loved her although you didn't agree with her feelings or emotions about wearing the clothes
 
Bottesini said:
But you are overlooking my point about prior behavior. If this is the sister who wrote the cackling witches poem for their mother's funeral, I think she may have some problems.
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Maybe she does, but in no way do we have enough information to know this.
 
TXgolfer said:
Pretty simple to understand really. I assume you have rules for your DD. I seem to remember something about clothing and stomping off mad for one. I am sure you still loved her although you didn't agree with her feelings or emotions about wearing the clothes
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The two scenarios are not the least bit comparable. The emotions come from different places.
 
TXgolfer said:
Pretty simple to understand really. I assume you have rules for your DD. I seem to remember something about clothing and stomping off mad for one. I am sure you still loved her although you didn't agree with her feelings or emotions about wearing the clothes
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Sexual orientation is a bit more involved than clothing preferences.
 
jillio said:
Probably denial. It is amazing what people can turn a blind eye to! If they don't see it, they will never have to discuss it with you.

BTW: agree 110% on the God of the universe statement.

The guy I have been dating for several years had his son come to him about a year or so ago to tell him he was gay. My guy's response was: "I wondered when you were going to get around to mentioning that to me.":P I thought that was the coolest response ever.
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True. I was outed by my own DD to my mom! :shock: nothing like being outted by a 5 year old!! :lol: Somehow managed to dodge the bullet on that one. But if my dad knew I am 99% positive I would be kicked out. This is part of the reason why I am wanting to get well established first financially and house-wise before coming out, that way I have nothing to lose except maybe a relationship or two.

That was probably the best response I've heard in a long time about a child coming out to their parent(s).
 
Loghead said:
The two scenarios are not the least bit comparable. The emotions come from different places.
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:lol: the point is not difficult for a parent to understand. Good parents love their kids no matter what. Doesn't mean they approve of what they do or what they think.
 
TXgolfer said:
Pretty simple to understand really. I assume you have rules for your DD. I seem to remember something about clothing and stomping off mad for one. I am sure you still loved her although you didn't agree with her feelings or emotions about wearing the clothes
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:-o
 
StSapphire said:
Sexual orientation is a bit more involved than clothing preferences.
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Far more complicated than clothing preferences!! This is a person's feelings and emotions for another person and of themselves. This is more ingrained than just clothing.
 
Bottesini said:
But you are overlooking my point about prior behavior. If this is the sister who wrote the cackling witches poem for their mother's funeral, I think she may have some problems.
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You're right. I did overlook that. My bad.
 
jillio said:
If she is new to the concept, then a little scolding might prevent her from doing it again.

But, the point is, whether it is someone's sexual orientation, or another piece of personal information, you don't tell it unless it is yours to tell. Period. That is gossiping and sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.
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Of course. I totally agree. I just don't think that WDYS should respond to this negatively. If WDYS were to take a positive approach, her sister may react well to the advice and want to educate herself more on the topic.
 
Loghead said:
Of course. I totally agree. I just don't think that WDYS should respond to this negatively. If WDYS were to take a positive approach, her sister may react well to the advice and want to educate herself more on the topic.
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Could be.
 
TXgolfer said:
:lol: the point is not difficult for a parent to understand. Good parents love their kids no matter what. Doesn't mean they approve of what they do or what they think.
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Just let that one drop, Tx Golfer. It can only get worse the more you try to explain.
 
TXgolfer said:
:lol: the point is not difficult for a parent to understand. Good parents love their kids no matter what. Doesn't mean they approve of what they do or what they think.
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The laughing emoticon is definitely becoming irritating and childish. My responses are valid and are not intended to be humorous in any way, shape, or form.

This comment does not relate at all to the topic at hand and I really don't see how the scenarios compare (perhaps this is because they are not related at ALL).
 
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