I am not celebrating 9-11

Steinhauer said:
Neither does the US Military. That is what military tribunals are for. If a soldier is charged with murder, they are given a fair trial.
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I consider murder to be the same thing as "collateral damage." I see no difference between dropping a bomb on an Iraqi children's hospital in error, or willfully killing unarmed civilians like the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. An apology and "deepest regret" doesn't mean anything to corpses.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I consider murder to be the same thing as "collateral damage." I see no difference between dropping a bomb on an Iraqi children's hospital in error, or willfully killing unarmed civilians like the My Lai massacre in Vietnam. An apology and "deepest regret" doesn't mean anything to corpses.
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I understand how you feel and I share some of those sentiments myself. Murder is never justifiable.

However, it is my understanding that we are fighting an enemy that is using innocent civilians as human shields. The difference is, the US military takes every precaution available to prevent putting innocent lives in harms way.

We have lived to see many protests happening all across the middle eastern nations. Apparently enough people have had it with their tyrannical leaders and want to be free and rid of them.

Freedom is contagious.
 
Steinhauer said:
I understand how you feel and I share some of those sentiments myself. Murder is never justifiable.

However, it is my understanding that we are fighting an enemy that is using innocent civilians as human shields. The difference is, the US military takes every precaution available to prevent putting innocent lives in harms way.
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lol.
 
Steinhauer said:
We have lived to see many protests happening all across the middle eastern nations. Apparently enough people have had it with their tyrannical leaders and want to be free and rid of them.

Freedom is contagious.
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it's still not our problem.
 
Steinhauer said:
I understand how you feel and I share some of those sentiments myself. Murder is never justifiable.

However, it is my understanding that we are fighting an enemy that is using innocent civilians as human shields. The difference is, the US military takes every precaution available to prevent putting innocent lives in harms way.
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I don't think we can know the numbers for sure, but I would wager that the percentage of innocents killed as a result of being used as human shields is far less than the amount who die as a result of indiscriminate bombing and weapons fire, as well as plain human error. I think it's just really convenient for the military to claim that their innocent victims were being used as human shields because it somehow makes people feel less sympathetic? Isn't that blaming the victim? If anything, it makes it worse to me.


Watch the documentary Restrapo and pay attention to the way the officers talk to the local Afghans after mistakenly killing two teenagers. Doesn't show much concern for innocent life, nor does it show a whole lot of precaution being used.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I don't think we can know the numbers for sure, but I would wager that the percentage of innocents killed as a result of being used as human shields is far less than the amount who die as a result of indiscriminate bombing and weapons fire, as well as plain human error. I think it's just really convenient for the military to claim that their innocent victims were being used as human shields because it somehow makes people feel less sympathetic? Isn't that blaming the victim? If anything, it makes it worse to me.


Watch the documentary Restrapo and pay attention to the way the officers talk to the local Afghans after mistakenly killing two teenagers. Doesn't show much concern for innocent life, nor does it show a whole lot of precaution being used.
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I have seen that movie already, and I don't recall seeing two teenagers being mistakenly killed. I recall seeing two US Navy Seals interrogating the locals after a firefighters erupted.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
I don't think we can know the numbers for sure, but I would wager that the percentage of innocents killed as a result of being used as human shields is far less than the amount who die as a result of indiscriminate bombing and weapons fire, as well as plain human error. I think it's just really convenient for the military to claim that their innocent victims were being used as human shields because it somehow makes people feel less sympathetic? Isn't that blaming the victim? If anything, it makes it worse to me.


Watch the documentary Restrapo and pay attention to the way the officers talk to the local Afghans after mistakenly killing two teenagers. Doesn't show much concern for innocent life, nor does it show a whole lot of precaution being used.
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I have seen that movie already, and I don't recall seeing two teenagers being mistakenly killed. I recall seeing two US Navy Seals interrogating the locals after a firefight erupted.
 
TheWriteAlex said:
Does anyone care about the hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghani and Iraqi children, women, and men who have died as a result of our blind rage in pursuing the perpetrators of terrorism?

Human life is important no matter what. I am sorry for the life lost in NYC 10 years ago, but I think we should be thinking about a lot of other incidents and unfortunates before we go treating this day like it's the only thing that matters in the history of the world.
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This comment... It reminds me that it is sort of similar to comments on dA... They don't give a shit about 9/11 but they value another non-Americans no what matter where they are from... =/ I can't help myself but it seems there are more and more Americans don't care about the 9/11 anymore... They usually said "Why 9/11 is matter? Fuck that day. What about people dead in another countries? They're more important than 9/11 victims." And something like that.

Still, nobody should murder anybody. It is really shame to see people went through. But, it seems it won't get any better then and now...
 
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Oh seriously. I'd rather remember the fallen including the war casualities that has accumulated over the years than reading this rubbish argument! 9/11 is a day of rememberance not just for the victims who died on that day but for the ones who fought the terrorism, too. Just stop arguing about it and give a nod to the fallen whoever they may be.
 
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