How to talk to the Vocational Rehabilitation People to Pay for my Tuiton

my parents never filed FAFSA and refuse to =/

I'm in the toughest financial situation possible, which is why I'm looking into VR. =/
 
sheila022 said:
Then that makes the problem worse =/ Can you please confirm this info?
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Yes, Go to your local VRS and confirm it yourself :) Each state are different and laws changes over time so you can't depend on one person's opinion anyway
 
sheila022 said:
my parents never filed FAFSA and refuse to =/

I'm in the toughest financial situation possible, which is why I'm looking into VR. =/
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you file it yourself and ask your parents for information along the way when needed
 
deafgal001 said:
Yes, Go to your local VRS and confirm it yourself :) Each state are different and laws changes over time so you can't depend on one person's opinion anyway
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But what about what Jillio said about federal standards in her post? I'm confused =/
 
I don't think that would be problem for you.

for example How well you hear on the phone... If it is not too grea, then it is because you are deaf and you can't just get any jobs you want. You need a job that suit well for the ability you have.
 
claim independent. I had to; because I already graduated and went ahead and made my own living after graduation before I applied for college few years later.. I could not get my parents to provide me informations about their finanical nor get them to pay, so I had to claim independent.

Because she is your stepmom and do not want to help you, You may have to do the same thing.
 
sheila022 said:
I actually live in Connecticut, but you know that I go to school in MA.

Well, the thing is, RIT is a school dominantly for the deaf, and likely to be on the list of "approved schools to fund for"...but I don't think anyone deaf in my area went to MIT in decades. VR might be more willing to pay for schools like RIT and Galludet, but not for expensive out of state private schools (maybe regardless of its caliber).

I don't know if changing residency will help or not, especially if MA VR will pay for my tuition?
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Okay .. first, I do believe residency can help. That is why I was asking what state you actually reside in (not just where you go to school, but where you are considered an actual resident of.) Others over the years have told me that state residency really makes a difference. Keep in mind, Sheila, that I'm nearly 20 years older than you so times and policies may have changed. I can only write of what I knew of back then.

Secondly, RIT is not predominately deaf school. NTID is (in addition to Gally and CSUN.) RIT is one of many (at my time, 9 -- it may be more now) colleges that consist of the Colleges of Business, Engineering, Fine Arts, and so on. NTID, while on the same campus, is a separate entity. RIT colleges are the only ones that carry BA or MA programs, NTID does not. When I enrolled right after high school, I went to RIT. So that was not a factor in VR support -- meaning that I did not attend NTID. In that regard, RIT would not be any different than MIT. But I'm sure it's still on the list of "approved schools" because of it's association with NTID. My choice in that school was the lack of deaf environment I had growing up, and I knew I would "get" that by going to RIT versus a state university here in MN where I would be one of a few deaf students out of many thousands -- hence no difference than what I had growing up. NTID provides all deaf RIT students the same services - interpreters, notetakers, whatever you need.

(In the late 80's when I enrolled at RIT, the hearing student population was 14,000 and deaf student population was 3,000. A far cry from me being 1 of maybe 25 deaf out of 10,000 at my state university. I'm sharing these numbers so you understand that RIT is a predominantly hearing college.)
 
it has been my understanding that vr has turned down students at ntid because of parents income level. your age is also a factor since you would be classified as a dependent on your parents tax filings. there are a ton of other federal and state grants out there though. could help to talk to the schools financial office. they usually can dig up a few hundred dollars in grants.
 
deafgal001 said:
claim independent. I had to.
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Well, the financial aid laws may have changed since your time. Right now, financial aid laws don't see you as independent unless you're 24, going to grad school, married, have your own children, OR in armed forces.

So I'm 20 years old and claiming as indepndent on tax forms isn't going to do a shit for fin aid....unless I really ask for "dependency override", but that usually happens in extreme case and in a case of involuntary dissolution of family support....like, move out and support myself FULLY, and provide documentation that i have involuntary dissolution of family support, so....yeah, it's just that tough.

God, FAFSA and fin aid laws are stupid.
 
DDU said:
it has been my understanding that vr has turned down students at ntid because of parents income level. your age is also a factor since you would be classified as a dependent on your parents tax filings. there are a ton of other federal and state grants out there though. could help to talk to the schools financial office. they usually can dig up a few hundred dollars in grants.
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federal and state grants that don't look at your parents' income level? That's what I want to look into.
 
sheila022 said:
Well, the financial aid laws may have changed since your time. Right now, financial aid laws don't see you as independent unless you're 24, going to grad school, married, have your own children, OR in armed forces.

So I'm 20 years old and claiming as indepndent on tax forms isn't going to do a shit for fin aid....unless I really ask for "dependency override", but that usually happens in extreme case and in a case of involuntary dissolution of family support....like, move out and support myself FULLY, and provide documentation that i have involuntary dissolution of family support, so....yeah, it's just that tough.

God, FAFSA and fin aid laws are stupid.
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that was the rules back then! I was under 24 years old... I had to prove I was really independent. I was not married nor had kids either.

.. I had the same issue as you. my Parents wasn't very cooperative about the whole college issue
 
sheila022 said:
can't I say that if I get rich in the future, I"ll donate $$$ to CT VR for helping me out now? xD xD xD
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no need. if you get $$$$$, you have to pay $$$$$ in tax anyway which will goes to them.
 
deafgal001 said:
that was the rules back then! I was under 24 years old... I had to prove I was really independent. I was not married nor had kids either.
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Oh wow! So you filed for "dependency override"? Can you please tell me how you proved you were really independent, if you don't mind telling me? (I read somewhere online that "demonstration of self-sufficiency" isn't enough to give you dependency override) =/ =/
 
I told the truth. I told them that I had a very difficult time, and I haven't contact my parents for a long.. I showed them that I was making my own money to support myself, that my parents are not helping me finanically at all.

I had to tell the finanical aid person this... I didn't do it online. He'll tell you how to do it.
 
deafgal001 said:
I told the truth. I told them that I had a very difficult time, and I haven't contact my parents for a long.. I showed them that I was making my own money to support myself, that my parents are not helping me finanically at all.

I had to tell the finanical aid person this... I didn't do it online. He'll tell you how to do it.
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Oo, wow. I'm sorry about that, but it seems like you got everything worked out now. :)
 
AlleyCat said:
Okay .. first, I do believe residency can help. That is why I was asking what state you actually reside in (not just where you go to school, but where you are considered an actual resident of.) Others over the years have told me that state residency really makes a difference. Keep in mind, Sheila, that I'm nearly 20 years older than you so times and policies may have changed. I can only write of what I knew of back then.

Secondly, RIT is not predominately deaf school. NTID is (in addition to Gally and CSUN.) RIT is one of many (at my time, 9 -- it may be more now) colleges that consist of the Colleges of Business, Engineering, Fine Arts, and so on. NTID, while on the same campus, is a separate entity. RIT colleges are the only ones that carry BA or MA programs, NTID does not. When I enrolled right after high school, I went to RIT. So that was not a factor in VR support -- meaning that I did not attend NTID. In that regard, RIT would not be any different than MIT. But I'm sure it's still on the list of "approved schools" because of it's association with NTID. My choice in that school was the lack of deaf environment I had growing up, and I knew I would "get" that by going to RIT versus a state university here in MN where I would be one of a few deaf students out of many thousands -- hence no difference than what I had growing up. NTID provides all deaf RIT students the same services - interpreters, notetakers, whatever you need.

(In the late 80's when I enrolled at RIT, the hearing student population was 14,000 and deaf student population was 3,000. A far cry from me being 1 of maybe 25 deaf out of 10,000 at my state university. I'm sharing these numbers so you understand that RIT is a predominantly hearing college.)
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Thank you, AlleyCat for the information.
 
once you claim independent, your parents will have to stop filing you dependent on their taxes (if they are not helping you, they shouldn't anyway) or they could get in trouble.

You should really talk to financial dept. and VRS and see what they say. Also, you really can't depend on your stepmom just because she is married to your dad for college support. who knows, it might surprise you as they handle this case by case.
 
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