High Court Upholds AZ Immigration Law

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Supreme Court has backed an Arizona law that punishes businesses hiring illegal immigrants, a law that opponents, including the Obama administration, say steps on traditional federal oversight over immigration matters.

The 5-3 ruling Thursday is a victory for supporters of immigration reform on the state level.

It was the first high court challenge to a variety of recent state laws cracking down on illegal immigrants, an issue that has become a political lightning rod.

The outcome could serve as a judicial warm-up for a separate high-profile challenge to a more controversial Arizona immigration reform law working its way through lower courts. That statute would, among other things, give local police a greater role in arresting suspected illegal immigrants.

The hiring case turned on whether state law tramples on federal authority.

"Arizona has taken the route least likely to cause tension with federal law," wrote Chief Justice John Roberts. "It relies solely on the federal government's own determination of who is an unauthorized alien, and it requires Arizona employers to use the federal government's own system for checking employee status."

Arizona passed the Legal Arizona Workers Act in 2007, allowing the state to suspend the licenses of businesses that "intentionally or knowingly" violate work-eligibility verification requirements. Companies would be required under that law to use E-Verify, a federal database to check the documentation of current and prospective employees. That database had been created by Congress as a voluntary, discretionary resource.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce filed a lawsuit against the state, arguing federal law prohibits Arizona and other states from making E-Verify use mandatory. The group was supported by a variety of civil rights and immigration rights groups. The state countered that its broad licensing authority gives it the right to monitor businesses within its jurisdiction.

The Obama administration recommended a judicial review, and sided with businesses and civil rights groups.

A 1986 federal act significantly limited state power to separately regulate the hiring and employment of "unauthorized" workers. An exception was made for local "licensing and similar laws." Under the law, employees are required to review documentation to confirm someone's right to work in the United States, including checking the familiar I-9 immigration form. Civil and criminal penalties were strengthened, but businesses making a "good faith" effort to comply with I-9 procedures were generally immune from prosecution.

Roberts, backed by his four conservative colleagues, said "Arizona went the extra mile in ensuring that its law tracks (the federal law's) provisions in all material aspects."

In dissent, Justice Sonia Sotomayor noted E-Verify is a voluntary program, and said criticism that the federal government is not doing enough to enforce the law is irrelevant.

"Permitting states to make use of E-Verify mandatory improperly puts states in the position of making decisions ... that directly affect expenditure and depletion of federal resources," she wrote. Justices Stephen Breyer and Ruth Bader Ginsburg also dissented.

Justice Elena Kagan did not participate in the case, since she had been the administration's solicitor general last year when the case was being appealed to the high court.

Gov. Jan Brewer had backed the law, telling CNN in December when the case was argued, "The bottom line is that we believe that if the (federal) government isn't going to do the job then Arizona is going to do the job. We are faced with a crisis."

This case could serve as a bellwether to how the court will view a larger, more controversial state immigration law from Arizona. Much of that statute was tossed out by a federal judge in August and is currently pending at a federal appeals court. It would, among other things, give police authority to check a person's immigration status if officers have a "reasonable suspicion" that the individual is in the country illegally.

The hiring case is Chamber of Commerce v. Whiting (09-115).

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Upheld a law punishing employers for hiring illegals? Isn't it already illegal to hire illegals? And isn't there punishment already in place to punish those who do?

Nothing like redundancy.:P
 
Yep, I remember when Li'l Abner had to come in and save Dogpatch form some furringer who was teaching local youngsters the value of working and earning an honest living instead of loafing around all day long.
 
Upheld a law punishing employers for hiring illegals? Isn't it already illegal to hire illegals? And isn't there punishment already in place to punish those who do?

Nothing like redundancy.:P

Then why was obama challenging it? I mean if it is so meaningless. Looks like obama lost.... :(
 
Um ... yeah ... what TXgolfer said. Didn't y'all realize that already? Don't act shocked now ...


Maybe I should send some of my legally obtained hard earned cash to help them build that wall.
 
This will benefit unions. Happy now? :P
 
Doubtful....the end of unions is near.....They are even starting to see the light here in CA

Are you sure it isn't just drunks high-beaming their lights at you?
 
Then why was obama challenging it? I mean if it is so meaningless. Looks like obama lost.... :(

Because there is a Federal law already in place that accomplishes the same thing. And, Federal law supercedes state law. It is completely useless and a waste of time to pass a law such as this when it is already provided for at a higher level.

Once again, these are nothing more than political ploys by politicians catering to the Tea Party mentality. Shame that some are so easily manipulated into thinking that something productive is being done. Truth of the matter is, nothing, but nothing has changed regarding the illegality of hiring illegals or the punishment for doing so.
 
Um ... yeah ... what TXgolfer said. Didn't y'all realize that already? Don't act shocked now ...


Maybe I should send some of my legally obtained hard earned cash to help them build that wall.

Please see my reply.

Uh, we're not discussing a wall. This is a very different topic, but thanks for giving us an example of the mind set that the politicians are catering to.:laugh2:
 
Because there is a Federal law already in place that accomplishes the same thing. And, Federal law supercedes state law. It is completely useless and a waste of time to pass a law such as this when it is already provided for at a higher level.

Once again, these are nothing more than political ploys by politicians catering to the Tea Party mentality. Shame that some are so easily manipulated into thinking that something productive is being done. Truth of the matter is, nothing, but nothing has changed regarding the illegality of hiring illegals or the punishment for doing so.

Except that federal law accomplishes nothing..... hence the problem. Now states can do something about it. :)
 
In your dreams!:laugh2:

You really do believe all that Repub rhetoric, don't you?:lol:

The gub is a Donkey..... He is seeing what unions have done to California. Even Gavin Newsom went to Texas to see how things work. :)
 
Except that federal law accomplishes nothing..... hence the problem. Now states can do something about it. :)

Until after the elections. Then they will realize there is no more cheap labor. Whoopsie daisy.
 
Upheld a law punishing employers for hiring illegals? Isn't it already illegal to hire illegals? And isn't there punishment already in place to punish those who do?

Nothing like redundancy.:P
They are not the same.

Federal government provides the E-Verify database but its use by businesses is voluntary.

The Arizona law would make its use mandatory by businesses.

"Arizona passed the Legal Arizona Workers Act in 2007, allowing the state to suspend the licenses of businesses that "intentionally or knowingly" violate work-eligibility verification requirements. Companies would be required under that law to use E-Verify, a federal database to check the documentation of current and prospective employees. That database had been created by Congress as a voluntary, discretionary resource."
 
The gub is a Donkey..... He is seeing what unions have done to California. Even Gavin Newsom went to Texas to see how things work. :)

He may have noticed all the white faces laboring under the hot sun. Oh yeah.
 
Except that federal law accomplishes nothing..... hence the problem. Now states can do something about it. :)

Then state law accomplishes nothing, because Federal law supercedes it. Try again.
 
Until after the elections. Then they will realize there is no more cheap labor. Whoopsie daisy.

Meh, they have been printing names and amounts of state pensions in the paper like a hit list. Even CAL had names and pay/pensions posted on the polls by the student union and Free Speech Movement Cafe. I think most people see it. :dunno: maybe not.....Perhaps California will remain in big trouble.
 
They are not the same.

Federal government provides the E-Verify database but its use by businesses is voluntary.

The Arizona law would make its use mandatory by businesses.

"Arizona passed the Legal Arizona Workers Act in 2007, allowing the state to suspend the licenses of businesses that "intentionally or knowingly" violate work-eligibility verification requirements. Companies would be required under that law to use E-Verify, a federal database to check the documentation of current and prospective employees. That database had been created by Congress as a voluntary, discretionary resource."

They accomplish the same purpose. To provide for the illegal nature of hiring illegal aliens and to provide for punishment for those that do.

Redundant.
 
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