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rolling7 said:
The point was made by Txgolfer in post #224 which you made your point in post #240. You can lol all you want but TXgolfer's point is still valid. And your proof (Roe vs.Wade) is fallacious and comical.
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oh so that means Supreme Court was a buffoon?
 
Reba said:
Does this "we" include you?
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yes. I'm not quite sure why you are applying that statement to everything like driving.

"we follow laws" in this thread which is about abortion. Re-read Post #268


Jiro said:
doctors, lawyers, hospitals, etc. have to follow the laws to the letter. that's why Dr. Kevorkian went to jail.

I don't know why would you even bring in speeding argument into this. it's not even same thing. Straw man perhaps? or non sequitor?

no wonder you people keep failing to convince Supreme Court otherwise. all you have to do is come up with a coherent argument. that's all I'm asking. I don't like abortion either and if I made a mistake, I wouldn't opt for abortion. and I especially don't like interfering with a woman's right to privacy. It's none of my business. The law is already there that it's illegal to perform abortion after third trimester unless her life is in serious danger due to pregnancy.

So yea - you're not giving me any single coherent reason to trample over woman's rights to privacy. I, in my good conscience, cannot support such unconstitutional act. That's why Supreme Court disagrees with you and continues to disagree since Roe v. Wade.
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Foxrac said:
You cannot born with bipolar and they are all happened during post-born.

I met with one woman and she told me that new technology of ultrasound could reveal that fetus is deaf, however it will NOT REVEALED if deafness occur after birth, especially born with hearing at beginning but become deafness eventually.

It is up to women to abort the fetus due to birth defect and disabilities, regardless on conditions and I'm NOT MEANS about Down Syndrome only but it is for any conditions.

Personally, it is sad to see deaf fetus to be aborted but it is still up to women to their families. It is none of my business to involve with them.
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Bi-Polar Disorder is hereditary!
 
Jiro said:
admitting what? and why would I care about heart beat? it doesn't mean anything to me. if you're all about heart beat... then why do you (or anti-abortion) eat meat? don't you care about animals? their hearts beat too. and they bleed and cry in pain too.
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Comparing an animal to a human is hardly even close in comparison!
 
airportcop said:
Comparing an animal to a human is hardly even close in comparison!
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but... animal has heartbeats, bleeds red blood, and screams in pain. how is it not similar?
 
airportcop said:
Bi-Polar Disorder is hereditary!
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Rolling7 misinterpreting about bipolar disorder.

The bipolar disorder is only diagnose with mental evaluation when you are admitting to hospital or outpatient center. There are no test that can reveal the bipolar disorder in fetus and there are no test to diagnose, except for mental evaluation.

I met one deaf man who have bipolar disorder and he said that he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when he was 14 years old. He told me that ultrasound was all normal and genetic testing was all normal too.

Read my post - #166 if you missed.
http://www.alldeaf.com/2068009-post166.html
 
Jiro said:
you only explained about Roe v. Wade (which was incorrect) but you haven't explained what twist you're talking about.

and I have no need to twist and spin since I'm using facts. You are confusing yourself... pro-lifers are the one who twist and spin. That's why they lost the case and have continued to fail to convince Congress, White House, and Supreme Court to reconsider.

Focus Focus Focus.







and here.... The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Landmark Cases . Roe v. Wade (1973) | PBS


once again.... Supreme Court disagrees with you and you and you. and this case was about women's rights to privacy.
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Termination=End of Life! Murder & Killing!
 
Foxrac said:
Oh no, I don't want my friend to die. :(

It is up to prosecutor and jurors on criminal charge, also the guns have lock trigger. Remove the bullet before clean the guns.
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Just making a point foxrac, no harm, no foul!
 
Jiro said:
but... animal has heartbeats, bleeds red blood, and screams in pain. how is it not similar?
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Animals do not have the same mental capacity as humans. They cannot reason and were put here by God to be used by us as a food source. Animals do not have a will like humans where they make decisions like we do on complex things. This is a dumb argument on your side. Why even compare or bother wasting time on this?!
 
airportcop said:
Animals do not have the same mental capacity as humans. They cannot reason and were put here by God to be used by us as a food source. Animals do not have a will like humans where they make decisions like we do on complex things. This is a dumb argument on your side. Why even compare or bother wasting time on this?!
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FYI, it is your religious belief so not all people share same belief as you do.
 
airportcop said:
Animals do not have the same mental capacity as humans.
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good!!!! at least animals are not murderers, hypocrites, and liars like humans. whew!

airportcop said:
They cannot reason and were put here by God to be used by us as a food source. Animals do not have a will like humans where they make decisions like we do on complex things.
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I disagree.

airportcop said:
This is a dumb argument on your side.
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now you know how I feel.

airportcop said:
Why even compare or bother wasting time on this?!
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now you know how I feel.
 
airportcop said:
Animals do not have the same mental capacity as humans. They cannot reason and were put here by God to be used by us as a food source. Animals do not have a will like humans where they make decisions like we do on complex things. This is a dumb argument on your side. Why even compare or bother wasting time on this?!
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Mankind, the most smartest creature on the face of the earth.

Mankind, the most stupidest creature on the face of the earth.
 
Foxrac said:
Rolling7 misinterpreting about bipolar disorder.

The bipolar disorder is only diagnose with mental evaluation when you are admitting to hospital or outpatient center. There are no test that can reveal the bipolar disorder in fetus and there are no test to diagnose, except for mental evaluation.

I met one deaf man who have bipolar disorder and he said that he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder when he was 14 years old. He told me that ultrasound was all normal and genetic testing was all normal too.

Read my post - #166 if you missed.
http://www.alldeaf.com/2068009-post166.html
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I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN, BI-POLAR DISORDER IS HEREDITARY!!! THAT MEANS THAT ONE IS BORN WITH IT! ARE YOU COMPLETELY SURE ABOUT THE TESTING????!!! THEY CAN TEST FOR DOWNS SYNDROME AND MANY OTHER THINGS! EVEN THOUGH THE TESTS MAY BE NEGATIVE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WASN'T THERE AT BIRTH IT ONLY MEANS THAT IT DID NOT SHOW UP AT THE TIME OF TESTING AND MANIFESTED ITSELF LATER IN LIFE! I'm just trying to explain this to you foxrac not calling you dumb.
 
Jiro said:
if right to privacy was already established... then why did States interfere with it by making it illegal?

Therefore.... women's rights to privacy was at stake and Supreme Court reaffirmed it.
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Umm..... That is normally how cases end up in the supreme court see: AZ immigration bill, Obamacare. :)
 
TXgolfer said:
Umm..... That is normally how cases end up in the supreme court see: AZ immigration bill, Obamacare. :)
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and Supreme Court agrees with me and abortionists.

let's see about AZ immigration bill and Obamacare. It is in my opinion that they will agree with me.
 
Jiro said:
good!!!! at least animals are not murderers, hypocrites, and liars like humans. whew!

I disagree.

now you know how I feel.

now you know how I feel.
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but... bear, wolf, tiger, lion, alligator, cheetah can eat human so I see as murder.
 
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