GOVERNMENT VS RELIGION-Social

The problem is, Religion is a title you give to a group who share the same moral values and set of beliefs. Unfortunately, most individuals will have a set of values and beliefs regardless if it falls under a title or not. These beliefs and values will influence choices.

"Her lawyer argued Monday that the deeply-religious Laney heard what she believed was God's voice telling her to kill the kids.

Laney's attorneys are using an insanity defense. Prosecutors say she knew right from wrong but are not seeking the death penalty"


A voice she believed was God. Insanity will be the defence. If I believed Anubis told me to kill my children, does that make me a follower of Egyptian mythology? Does that mean Anubis really told me?
 
What is the way to salvation that Jesus has shown us and that Christianity has rejected much to its own shame. Well let's look?

You can't cut and paste points out of scripture to prove a point. The verses you have selected are out of context.

Matthew 6:33 is talking about seeking after material things, and the general worries of the day. Seek spiritual things rather than Material things is the point.

Luke 17:21 Tells that the Kingdom of God is not a physical one, like many Jewish people were expecting, instead it is a spiritual one.

Both verses have nothing to do with Salvation. You were right in saying that He is the way. "No one comes to the father except through me [Jesus]" The Bible is very clear that this can not be done by an individual alone, or through works, but only by the redeeming sacrifice of Jesus.

Revelations 2:23 This may be metaphor, this may be alot of things. I have no idea, but even if it refers to litterally killing her children, it is reffering a judgment. God will judge many in the end times, and many will go to a lake of Fire. Judgment is only for God, not for humans. Humans are not to judge, and not to kill.

How can a country that is supposed to be based on liberty use any religion to justify law or government action?

I'm not saying to justify any law using religion. I'm just stating that ANY individual you put in that big white house will have biases, to personal beliefs. For example, an individual who is strongly Pro Life, may be less likely to help out Pro Choice groups. Because an individual's belief happens to fall under one of the major religions is no reason to keep them out.
 
What is the way to salvation that Jesus has shown us and that Christianity has rejected much to its own shame. Well let's look?You can't cut and paste points out of scripture to prove a point. The verses you have selected are out of context.
we both have different interpret. that's it.

Matthew 6:33 is talking about seeking after material things, and the general worries of the day. Seek spiritual things rather than Material things is the point.Luke 17:21 Tells that the Kingdom of God is not a physical one, like many Jewish people were expecting, instead it is a spiritual one.

We are spiritual beings:

I turn to you, . . I poke you in the arm with my finger and I ask, "Is this your body?" You answer, "Yes." I then ask, "Well,.... if that's your body, WHAT are you?" The answer of course is something not of the physical, a spiritual being.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Can you see just what it is I am trying to you here? We are part of a collective consciousness. We are in God and He is the Father of all creation:

The bible says the same thing; I Corinthians 8.6; "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

Revelations 2:23 This may be metaphor, this may be alot of things. I have no idea, but even if it refers to litterally killing her children, it is reffering a judgment. God will judge many in the end times, and many will go to a lake of Fire. Judgment is only for God, not for humans. Humans are not to judge, and not to kill.

Many will not go to a lake of Fire. Many will go back GOD's home which it's other side. It is the place of eternity, where our experience of God and others is direct and unfettered by the limitations of time and space. All beauty and wisdom awaits us there. Life's pain and trauma pales to a dim memory, where only the soul's perfection is the badge of having lived. Continuous joy pervades our home, with the total comfort of our Lord caring for us. There is no separation from Him or Her. Home at last.


How can a country that is supposed to be based on liberty use any religion to justify law or government action?I'm not saying to justify any law using religion. I'm just stating that ANY individual you put in that big white house will have biases, to personal beliefs. For example, an individual who is strongly Pro Life, may be less likely to help out Pro Choice groups. Because an individual's belief happens to fall under one of the major religions is no reason to keep them out.

you may use your biased on liberty without religious to justify law or gov't action. Ofc, we may have different Pro Life based on the issues. I doubt you aint happens to fall your own religious. You may pray for or about anything; there is no reason to save your prayers for "significant" issues. we were saying your prayers aloud, actually verbalizing them. Why? Because it allows your Spirit Guide to hear your thoughts and assist you in some way. Yes, you can actually pray to your Guide. And most of the time your Guide will be the entity responsible to answer your prayers. The Kingdom of God with u and you will be okay.
 
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The Bible talks about Salvation many times. Your quotes didn't include the word salvation. In fact, the context of the quotes you used never talked about Salvation. You can not cut and paste and here is why:

Lunz: "We are spiritual beings", "You may pray for or about anything", "The Kingdom of God with u and you will be okay"."The bible says the same thing"

So you are saying we are spiritual beings, and as long as the Kingdom of God is with us, and backs up our prayers we will be ok, and the Bible says this. COOL.

I guess I interpret what you say different.

Genesis cleary says we have a soul. The Bible always cleary states that we have a spirit. but regardless of that fact, God is Spirit. His Kingdom is not one you can see, but it is spiritual. Seek first the Kingdom of God. Meaning, do not put your trust in material things such as Gold, Money, clothes, material possesions. For they will fade, and turn to dust. Spiritual treasures endure.

The Bible does not state that we are all one conciousness, nor are we all going to heaven. This is clear and simple. You don't have to belief it, but do not twist what it says.

you may use your biased on liberty without religious to justify law or gov't action.

You think that's ok? That if I'm biased, but not religious, it's ok for me to put my biased on a decision for the country? So if I think all children with Disabilities should be aborted, as long as I don't claim that to be religious, it's ok to push that agenda.....
 
The Bible talks about Salvation many times. Your quotes didn't include the word salvation. In fact, the context of the quotes you used never talked about Salvation.
Every religion has truth, and I fully embraces people from every religion, but
I'm a Spiritual organization, not religious. Thats why i dont use quote of salvation. Love God with your whole heart. mind. and soul. Love thy neighbor as thyself. I agree with Christ when he said (John 14:6): "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father but through me." Since Christ equates himself to "the way, the truth, and the life," a logically equivalent statement is: "No one comes to the Father but through the way, and the truth, and the life." if I follow the teachings of Christ then the doors of heaven (the eternal Home) open. I do not hold that Christ was God, nor that he died for our "sins." This philosophy will not save your soul, but it will make your soul worth saving


Genesis cleary says we have a soul. The Bible always cleary states that we have a spirit. but regardless of that fact, God is Spirit. His Kingdom is not one you can see, but it is spiritual. Seek first the Kingdom of God. Meaning, do not put your trust in material things such as Gold, Money, clothes, material possesions. For they will fade, and turn to dust. Spiritual treasures endure.The Bible does not state that we are all one conciousness, nor are we all going to heaven. This is clear and simple. You don't have to belief it, but do not twist what it says..
i know it doesnt mean as material things. God is spirit and we are spirits, too.
we are in same unverise. As i said before, I Corinthians 8.6; "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."

you may use your biased on liberty without religious to justify law or gov't action.You think that's ok? That if I'm biased, but not religious, it's ok for me to put my biased on a decision for the country? So if I think all children with Disabilities should be aborted, as long as I don't claim that to be religious, it's ok to push that agenda.

aborted? ofc, it's not okay, but it leave to states's decision. I think woman have right to make decision. God's judgement, not our.
 
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