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diehardbiker65 said:
I had Staffordshire Terrier (Pitbull) for 16 years! I love her, she's been sweet but vicious guard dog! We never had our front door lock, our dog will do her job. believe me, often stranger walks by and see our dog, they just walk away faster. They don't have the guts to try touch us. But funny thing... she NEVER bite anyone! But with any other animals, they better get lost FAST! She had killed snakes, porcupine, cats, wild birds.
Would I want another Staffordshire Terrier? You betcha!


Well..... Staffordshire Terrier and American Pitbull have shared the same heritage and they are nearly identical. They have earned their own names and both are registered in a different kennel club.

Both breeds are not supposed to be humane aggressive, but highly aggresive toward dogs, cats, etc. This is the reason why many shelter/pounds refuse to place a pit bull or stafforshire terrier in a home with other pets.

Well no offense, APBT and staffordshire terrier make a lousy guard dog. I think people are afraid of your dog because they assume that those bully looking dogs look fearful. If you get a Presa Canario, your neigbor is going to give you the same respond. In reality, your dog will not protect you from a thief because your dog does not have the proper training to recongize the threats from other people. It is not because your dog is a staffordshire terrier.

You have a great deal to learn about stafforshire terrier and APBT. What you have said is typical ignorant dog owner.

Pro and Con
The pros
Pit Bulls are very people friendly

For many, the best trait of Pit Bull type dogs is how much they love people. They always enjoy meeting strangers and usually greet everyone with a wagging tail and a tone of kisses.

The Cons
Pit Bull can be poor Guard Dogs
Don't count on a Pit Bull to guard your house or property or you might be disappointed. Pit Bulls were not bred for protection.

The Alterative
If you need protection, get an Alarm System.

We don't think dogs should have the responsibility of judging a situation and making a decision based on our human concepts of right and wrong. In fact, we believe that as the "leader" of the pack, it is our responsibility to protect our dogs, not the other way around.
From above here
http://www.mprgroup.net/misc/proscons.html

To anyone who doesn't know a thing about Pitbull, I advise to visit those links

Please take your time and re-educate yourself.. I highly advise you to visit this links

Both are graphic! WARNING
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality.html

http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/


I feel like I need to RE EDUCATE the public.

Myth 1 about pit bull


"Pit Bulls have locking jaws"

There is nothing about a Pit Bull jaws that would greatly distinguish them from the jaws of other breed. The breed's jaws can't lock more than a poodle's can. Pit Bulls do have a lot of jaw-strength, however. The wide jaws allow them to hold onto an object, even dangling mid-air. This is a trait that comes from the bulldog ancestors of the breed. jaw strength was needed in order for a dog to be proficient at bullbaiting, in which the dog would grab the bull by the nose and hang on until the enraged animal was subdued.

"Dr. I Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia: " The few studies which have been conducted for the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of "Locking mechanism" unqiue to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the american pit bull terrier. "

Myth 2
"Pit Bulls can hold on with their front teeth while chewing with their back teeth."
Another phsyical impossibility. Pit Bulls jaws are constructed in the same way any other breed's jaws are.

Myth 3

"All Pit Bulls are vicious or Pit Bulls are born mean"
No one breed as a whole is bad, the same as no one race of human is bad. Much has to do with the individual, it's genes upbringing, and training. In the case of Pit Bulls, a b reed that was created to be especially gentle with people, all of the human aggressive dogs are victims of one or more of the following: POOR BREEDING, BAD TRAINING, or IRRESPONISBILE UPBRINGING. There are thousands upon thousands of pit bulls that are loving, loyal, safe pets, who will live and die without ever having bitten a human. They are the proof that this "born bad" idea is FICTION, pure and simple!

Myth 4
"Pit bulls have more jaw strength per square inch than any other breed."
This is pure speculation, as there is no reliable way to test psi jaw pressure. In testing, many variable come into play (what driving the dog to bite, how motivated is the dog, etc) and it also has a lot to do with the individual dog, itself. The results vary greatly.

Myth 5
"Dogs that are aggressive towards other animals are automatically aggressive toward people"
Humane aggression in dogs is entirely different than aggression directed at other animals. Aggression toward animals is a natural trait of the breed. Hisotically, humans were always in the pit, handling fighting dogs closely, while the animals were in full fight drive. A dog that was a danger to people and prone to biting was not feasible, and therefore carefully selected against.

Myth 6

" Pit Bulls attack more people than any other breed."

Bite statistics actully show otherwise. More Popular breeds that are generally considred to be "Nice dogs" top the majority of lists. It may seem to the general public who is constantly bombared with disturbing reports on Pit Bull attacks that this is the only breed that harms humans with any great regularity. However, the fact remains that pit bulls are hot news items. Dogs of all breeds and mixes bite and attack people all the time, but it is mainly the pitbull bites that get sensationalized. A report about the local Golden Retriever that attacks and maims a child isn't considered newsworthy. No one wants to believe that any dogs even the fuzzy, cute, popular ones are cable to biting. It is much easier to blow up and sensationalize a story about a vicious dog when it is a new member of a breed whose reputation preceeds it. Pit Bulls are already considered the demons. All the reporters have to do is stand front of the camera, look horrified, and say. " A Pit Bull did it"

Myth 7
" The only people that own pit bulls are criminals and the only thing breed is good for is dog fighting"

The majority of pit bulls are owned by normal dog-loving folk. Pit Bulls are kept as companions; they are used as working dogs involved in search and rescue, thearpy, and police service; they complete in obedience, confomration, agility, tracking, and schutzund.

" Red or blue nose dogs are a special type of pit bull/rare/worth/ more than black nose dogs"

The answer to all of this above is F A L S E..... It is all about color genetic. With a blue nose this is a ressesive gene. It this idea is so similar to doberman that has four colors; fawn, blue, red, and black.
This is very complex to explain... Visit this link if you want to learn more about color coat in dogs.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/d/ddoggone/Homepage/Genetics/Genetics.html
 
No offense taken, and alot people misunderstood about pitbull terrier. Most of the time when once happen, public tend to think grandoise and declare ALL when there is only very few of them actually happens.

Alarm system isn't 100% effective, and don't you know you can get ticket for false alarm. I know not all of city and town have these laws against false alarms. I have seen burglaries occured even with alarm clock going! That is because sometimes thieves observe response time, and other factors and figure out how to beat it. For example burglar would need to know what to look for inside, and they have only 3 minutes of time frame to get out before getting caught. But with dog, if properly training then burglar is asking for more trouble for himself or herself. Another good example why alarm system isn't effective, more burglars occurs in country now than it was before and that police response time could be as long as 5 minutes, this gives burglar enough time to get out without getting caught.

Your right about training part, three kinds of training here, positive, negative, and nothing. Alot people assume that all pitbull were vicious, in reality some of them recieved negative training and that is the problem!

Im not ready to have another dog in my house right now. Got other priorities to deal with before getting dog.

Cane Corso said:
Well..... Staffordshire Terrier and American Pitbull have shared the same heritage and they are nearly identical. They have earned their own names and both are registered in a different kennel club.

Both breeds are not supposed to be humane aggressive, but highly aggresive toward dogs, cats, etc. This is the reason why many shelter/pounds refuse to place a pit bull or stafforshire terrier in a home with other pets.

Well no offense, APBT and staffordshire terrier make a lousy guard dog. I think people are afraid of your dog because they assume that those bully looking dogs look fearful. If you get a Presa Canario, your neigbor is going to give you the same respond. In reality, your dog will not protect you from a thief because your dog does not have the proper training to recongize the threats from other people. It is not because your dog is a staffordshire terrier.

You have a great deal to learn about stafforshire terrier and APBT. What you have said is typical ignorant dog owner.

Pro and Con
The pros
Pit Bulls are very people friendly

For many, the best trait of Pit Bull type dogs is how much they love people. They always enjoy meeting strangers and usually greet everyone with a wagging tail and a tone of kisses.

The Cons
Pit Bull can be poor Guard Dogs
Don't count on a Pit Bull to guard your house or property or you might be disappointed. Pit Bulls were not bred for protection.

The Alterative
If you need protection, get an Alarm System.

We don't think dogs should have the responsibility of judging a situation and making a decision based on our human concepts of right and wrong. In fact, we believe that as the "leader" of the pack, it is our responsibility to protect our dogs, not the other way around.
From above here
http://www.mprgroup.net/misc/proscons.html

To anyone who doesn't know a thing about Pitbull, I advise to visit those links

Please take your time and re-educate yourself.. I highly advise you to visit this links

Both are graphic! WARNING
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality.html

http://www.pitbullproblem.tk/


I feel like I need to RE EDUCATE the public.

Myth 1 about pit bull


"Pit Bulls have locking jaws"

There is nothing about a Pit Bull jaws that would greatly distinguish them from the jaws of other breed. The breed's jaws can't lock more than a poodle's can. Pit Bulls do have a lot of jaw-strength, however. The wide jaws allow them to hold onto an object, even dangling mid-air. This is a trait that comes from the bulldog ancestors of the breed. jaw strength was needed in order for a dog to be proficient at bullbaiting, in which the dog would grab the bull by the nose and hang on until the enraged animal was subdued.

"Dr. I Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia: " The few studies which have been conducted for the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of "Locking mechanism" unqiue to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the american pit bull terrier. "

Myth 2
"Pit Bulls can hold on with their front teeth while chewing with their back teeth."
Another phsyical impossibility. Pit Bulls jaws are constructed in the same way any other breed's jaws are.

Myth 3

"All Pit Bulls are vicious or Pit Bulls are born mean"
No one breed as a whole is bad, the same as no one race of human is bad. Much has to do with the individual, it's genes upbringing, and training. In the case of Pit Bulls, a b reed that was created to be especially gentle with people, all of the human aggressive dogs are victims of one or more of the following: POOR BREEDING, BAD TRAINING, or IRRESPONISBILE UPBRINGING. There are thousands upon thousands of pit bulls that are loving, loyal, safe pets, who will live and die without ever having bitten a human. They are the proof that this "born bad" idea is FICTION, pure and simple!

Myth 4
"Pit bulls have more jaw strength per square inch than any other breed."
This is pure speculation, as there is no reliable way to test psi jaw pressure. In testing, many variable come into play (what driving the dog to bite, how motivated is the dog, etc) and it also has a lot to do with the individual dog, itself. The results vary greatly.

Myth 5
"Dogs that are aggressive towards other animals are automatically aggressive toward people"
Humane aggression in dogs is entirely different than aggression directed at other animals. Aggression toward animals is a natural trait of the breed. Hisotically, humans were always in the pit, handling fighting dogs closely, while the animals were in full fight drive. A dog that was a danger to people and prone to biting was not feasible, and therefore carefully selected against.

Myth 6

" Pit Bulls attack more people than any other breed."

Bite statistics actully show otherwise. More Popular breeds that are generally considred to be "Nice dogs" top the majority of lists. It may seem to the general public who is constantly bombared with disturbing reports on Pit Bull attacks that this is the only breed that harms humans with any great regularity. However, the fact remains that pit bulls are hot news items. Dogs of all breeds and mixes bite and attack people all the time, but it is mainly the pitbull bites that get sensationalized. A report about the local Golden Retriever that attacks and maims a child isn't considered newsworthy. No one wants to believe that any dogs even the fuzzy, cute, popular ones are cable to biting. It is much easier to blow up and sensationalize a story about a vicious dog when it is a new member of a breed whose reputation preceeds it. Pit Bulls are already considered the demons. All the reporters have to do is stand front of the camera, look horrified, and say. " A Pit Bull did it"

Myth 7
" The only people that own pit bulls are criminals and the only thing breed is good for is dog fighting"

The majority of pit bulls are owned by normal dog-loving folk. Pit Bulls are kept as companions; they are used as working dogs involved in search and rescue, thearpy, and police service; they complete in obedience, confomration, agility, tracking, and schutzund.

" Red or blue nose dogs are a special type of pit bull/rare/worth/ more than black nose dogs"

The answer to all of this above is F A L S E..... It is all about color genetic. With a blue nose this is a ressesive gene. It this idea is so similar to doberman that has four colors; fawn, blue, red, and black.
This is very complex to explain... Visit this link if you want to learn more about color coat in dogs.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/d/ddoggone/Homepage/Genetics/Genetics.html
 
Well, whatever.....I have a 3 year old male American Pitbull dog and he is the
sweetest dog on Earth..but that is all im going to say about him in here cuz in the past i have talked about him and some people here in AD have viciously
said horrendous, untrue and mythical stuff about pitbull dogs that made me so
mad so i decided never again talk about pitbull dogs!...
Oh....what am i doing?........LOL!............
*muttering*.............get out of heeeerrreeeee.......................
 
Defee said:
Well, whatever.....I have a 3 year old male American Pitbull dog and he is the
sweetest dog on Earth..but that is all im going to say about him in here cuz in the past i have talked about him and some people here in AD have viciously
said horrendous, untrue and mythical stuff about pitbull dogs that made me so
mad so i decided never again talk about pitbull dogs!...
Oh....what am i doing?........LOL!............
*muttering*.............get out of heeeerrreeeee.......................
Yeah, this is reason why I am trying to educate the public. I don't own an American Pitbull Terrier or staffordshire and I have a different breed. The dog picture I posted in my avatar is not a pitbull. A different breed from Italy. No one will have a clue what it is. :)
 
Cane Corso said:
Yeah, this is reason why I am trying to educate the public. I don't own an American Pitbull Terrier or staffordshire and I have a different breed. The dog picture I posted in my avatar is not a pitbull. A different breed from Italy. No one will have a clue what it is. :)
Oh really? the dog in the avatar looks definitely looks like a pitbull because of
his shape of his nose and mouth, typical of pitbull..i will look up it up on Italian
type of pitbulls if there is one...you might try Library..if you cant find it on the internet ok? I will try and if i find it, i will let you know. the dog looks type of pitbull though.
 
Geez.. That pain for pitbull who had done abused cruelty animal. Ridcouisly...

some pitbull are dangerous attack who fault by owner displince stoopid!
Some pitbull are totally friendly and loved family, by owner who giving lot of love and good displince.
Depends vary other states.

Thanks for bring link but really extremelly break my heart. Geez (sigh)
 
Bullym0m said:
Geez.. That pain for pitbull who had done abused cruelty animal. Ridcouisly...

some pitbull are dangerous attack who fault by owner displince stoopid!
Some pitbull are totally friendly and loved family, by owner who giving lot of love and good displince.
Depends vary other states.

Thanks for bring link but really extremelly break my heart. Geez (sigh)
Bullymom...my dog loves other dogs and cats! he does not attack people either unless people try to hurt us thats all..he is very protective of us.
One time, when he was at pet boarding while we was on vacation, a cat accidentally got into his cage, the cat and my dog were sleeping together!
the caretakers were so shocked, haha..pretty cute haha..
 
Defee said:
Bullymom...my dog loves other dogs and cats! he does not attack people either unless people try to hurt us thats all..he is very protective of us.
One time, when he was at pet boarding while we was on vacation, a cat accidentally got into his cage, the cat and my dog were sleeping together!
the caretakers were so shocked, haha..pretty cute haha..

Yeah... Espically stupid owner who treated horrible to pitbull abused caused pitbull become rage and angrily attack innocent people. That what I felt really extreme angrily againist other owner who did to this but mostly I've heard full of crap owner shocked and would say "I don't know what happend my dog become nuts" Full of B.S. Totally Reason avoid the extreme high press charge for that. Can be smart ass!

Awww... So cute your dog sleep w/stranger cat together.. Can be luckily (chuckles) Wha... so such romantic cute sleep together....
:lol:
 
Bullym0m said:
Geez.. That pain for pitbull who had done abused cruelty animal. Ridcouisly...

some pitbull are dangerous attack who fault by owner displince stoopid!
Some pitbull are totally friendly and loved family, by owner who giving lot of love and good displince.
Depends vary other states.

Thanks for bring link but really extremelly break my heart. Geez (sigh)
aww i uddy how ur feeling.. :hug: i know u love pitbull so much!!!
 
Sadly, the province of Ontario in Canada passed a legislation to ban the breed of pit bulls. The remaining pit bulls will be allowed to stay but with strict restrictions for the owners to comply with. They HOPE to wipe the breed out of Ontario. Damn the government for making such a stupid law.

Many people advocated the legislation on dangerous dogs instead of specific breed bans. I love dogs, and I have two myself. One yellow labrador retriever and one is half German Shepherd, half yellow labrador retriever. They're both wonderful dogs. As I know pit bulls are friendly toward people, though I must say that I am unlikely to ever own one. Not because of their bad reputation, which is because of the scare tactics the media used.

People tend to pick dogs that matches their personalities, and sometimes their looks! LOL

Anyway, it is very sad about how people are so pre-occupied with their fears of specific breeds. Heck, German Shepherds, Dobermans, Rottweilers and more breeds were victims of the media in the past. From what I read, cocker spaniels are more likely to bite than a pit bull. :-/

Cocker spaniels are physically capable of killing babies and toddlers. But should they be banned?

No. Because most of them aren't like that.
 
his shape of his nose and mouth, typical of pitbull..i will look up it up on Italian
type of pitbulls if there is one...you might try Library..if you cant find it on the internet ok? I will try and if i find it, i will let you know. the dog looks type of pitbull though.[/QUOTE]


Many people assume it looks like one. Actually it is not related to pitbull or its family. Pitbull is related to the bait family like all Terrier kinds.

This is mastiff (we called it the molosser group) and it is very different than the terrier group. Cane corso is related to the canis pugnax family a close cousin of Neopolitian Mastiff. It was orginiated from Italy and bred to take down a bull on the nose while the farmer is trying to castrate the bull without any medicine. Also this dog was bred to herd and keep cattles together since there was no fence to let them wander off alone.
 
Defee said:
Bullymom...my dog loves other dogs and cats! he does not attack people either unless people try to hurt us thats all..he is very protective of us...

No dogs should protect their own family unless they have recieved the proper training. My opinion, it is always you and your family's job to ensure that you and your family are protecting the dog. Please don't expect your dog to take in the control of the situation, you are asking for more trouble.
 
I know dog's simple rule... If you respect dogs, then dogs WILL definetly respect you back. If you abuse dog, then dog WILL at 99.999% guarantee to abuse back to you (With surprise). Tell ya this, I met good friend of mine who happen to have two mastiff, I mean HUGE dog!!! Their face is around 4 feet high! and can weight up to 200 lbs. Usually his two dogs growl and being unfriendly to stranger. But I knew how to respect dogs. my friend was very surprised that his dog don't have problem with me. Of course, I am little nervous around these two huge dogs.
 
Cane Corso said:
No dogs should protect their own family unless they have recieved the proper training. My opinion, it is always you and your family's job to ensure that you and your family are protecting the dog. Please don't expect your dog to take in the control of the situation, you are asking for more trouble.
Dont worry, My husband did train our pitbull..he is very protective of us but
still friendly to other people at his command..like one of our friends come over, he will tell the dog its ok, he will calm down. We keep him under control, we never, ever let him run loose at all.
 
TweetyBird said:
aww i uddy how ur feeling.. :hug: i know u love pitbull so much!!!
Tweetybird, i may be mistaken, but i dont think Bullymom owns any pitbull dogs, she owns bulldogs, there is difference, ya know.
Bullymom, please correct me if im wrong ok?
 
Cane Corso said:
his shape of his nose and mouth, typical of pitbull..i will look up it up on Italian
type of pitbulls if there is one...you might try Library..if you cant find it on the internet ok? I will try and if i find it, i will let you know. the dog looks type of pitbull though.


Many people assume it looks like one. Actually it is not related to pitbull or its family. Pitbull is related to the bait family like all Terrier kinds.

This is mastiff (we called it the molosser group) and it is very different than the terrier group. Cane corso is related to the canis pugnax family a close cousin of Neopolitian Mastiff. It was orginiated from Italy and bred to take down a bull on the nose while the farmer is trying to castrate the bull without any medicine. Also this dog was bred to herd and keep cattles together since there was no fence to let them wander off alone.[/QUOTE]
Oh ok...interesting...very interesting...there are many kinds of pitbulls, mastiffs etc..your dog is different as i see. I have never heard of this kind of dog before..thanks for explaining to me about this kind of dog you have.
 
FYI, Statistic can be easily misleading!!! I wouldn't trust these statistic UNLESS they clearly define how statistics were collected and calculated. In the past 30 years, I have seen enough manipulation on statistics. perfect example is Enron! They manipulated their financial record to make it look so good to investors until one day they collopsed. Enron actually used "Doctored" statistic to mislead innocent investors. Who is to blame? Same principle with dogs. You see stories that looks so horrible, and think EVERY DAMN of that specific breed are the same? Come on! I am sure even poodle killed somebody and I am not surprised that it is not circulated as widely as pitbull because Poodle has been assumed as "Weak" Dog. Bottom line is, know the dog owner, and the dog. That is the real answer! If you know the dog owner who tends to get in fights, or brawls, then you know the answer on what kind his or her dog would be.
other example back about 35 years ago, these who advocate for helmet laws for bikers like me. They have actually make their statistic looks so real that helmet does save lives. So, states like Pennsylvania Adopted that law. After 30 years, their own Department of transportation that compiled the statistic on their own. Their finding were startling... NO DAMN DIFFERENCE between helmet and no helmet when it comes to life and death. They decided to repel that stupid law!

So my point here is, BE CAREFUL on what you hear or see, it can be decieving!!!
 
TweetyBird said:
aww i uddy how ur feeling.. :hug: i know u love pitbull so much!!!

TweetyBird, I'm not lover pitbull.. I felt my heartwrenched goes out for pitbull abused by owner or else.. Really cruelty!
I'm damn obession lover bulldogs.. Isn't part of family as pitbull..

Defee said:
Tweetybird, i may be mistaken, but i dont think Bullymom owns any pitbull dogs, she owns bulldogs, there is difference, ya know.
Bullymom, please correct me if im wrong ok?

Yes Defee, you're correct! I'm owner of bulldogs not pitbull.
 
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