Former Gov. of Mexico Extradited to U.S.

Steinhauer said:
Vegetables are also picked before they are ripe so they can be shipped.

You do not have the same nutrients (almost none) in store bought vegetables.

Your body consumes **I think** 29 or 30 different kinds of sugars. These glyco nutrients help your body heal.

Your not getting the same nutrients your grandparents got.
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but most grandparents are not living as long as we are. Most cannot live easily past 60 years old. I mean... look at Hugh Hefner... he's 84 years old and he ain't old yet! :lol:
 
Steinhauer said:
working on it (I posted several links in another thread discussing this very thing)

Misdiagnosis of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder - WrongDiagnosis.com

When I was growing up, kids didn't die of heart attacks while at soccer, basketball, football, etc. practice:

Strattera Heart Attack - Strattera increases Heart Attack Risk


WikiAnswers - Can Strattera cause rapid heart beat and chest pains

(more links to come ... I need to sleep).
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I'm not interested in links on health problem or misdiagnosis. I'm asking for links to your claims - Mexican drug cartels supplying the drugs from American pharmaceutical companies and doctors being paid to prescribe
 
Jiro said:
btw - aren't you being a silly hypocrite? I mean.... looking at the pix of yourself you posted in pix thread... that's not quite a good example of "eating right and exercising" on your part......
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Are you forgetting that some issues like that can be from the body at no choice of the person themself or genetics or medications that they have to take?

Not a good thing to make assumptions.
 
Jiro said:
btw - aren't you being a silly hypocrite? I mean.... looking at the pix of yourself you posted in pix thread... that's not quite a good example of "eating right and exercising" on your part......
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Um ... no, I will bet I have better cardio than you (and strength).
 
I will make a deal with you, I will ask you 2 questions for every question you ask me :lol:


Are you claiming the following has nothing to do with misdiagnosing patients by greedy doctors and even more greedy drug pushers?

Pharmaceutical companies have long gone to great lengths to try to get doctors to prescribe their brand-name pills. They spend billions of dollars, plying physicians with samples, educational lunches and speaker fees. But as the patents for a growing number of blockbuster medicines expire, some health insurers are trying to trump those perks with bonuses or higher reimbursements for writing more generic prescriptions.
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Doctors Paid To Prescribe Generic Pills - WSJ.com

You do have google don't you?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/business/09anemia.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

Cancer Decisions® - Cancer Doctors Paid for Prescribing Dubious Drugs - Part II

Doctors Paid To Prescribe Generic Pills: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance,

Lilly Paid Doctors to Prescribe Zyprexa, Notes Show (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

Would you say that a U.S. Government lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies and a $520 million settlement "might" indicate that drug companies are actually "drug pushers" and doctors whom knowingly misdiagnose illnesses so they can prescribe medication are "drug pushers?":

AstraZeneca paid docs to prescribe drug, government alleged | Philly | 04/28/2010

Tucked in the $520 million settlement agreement between AstraZeneca and the federal government over the drugmaker's alleged improper marketing of its antipsychotic drug Seroquel was the charge that the company paid doctors to study the drug, speak about it, and lend their names to ghostwritten articles.
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Moreover, the study, published in the current issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine, found that such payments to researchers in medical studies "decrease the quality of research."
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REALLY? No! I can't believe it!

Gee whiz, its no wonder your questions are riddled with contempt and a false sense of superiority (you don't have a clue).
 
Jiro said:
all for more reason why our Drug War policy is failing. No matter how many more National Guards/ICE are added... and how much more money is poured in... the National Security is still compromised because there are corruptions at higher level.

hence - Governor of New Mexico.
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New Mexico, Jiro? :P
 
Steinhauer said:
Books have been written about this very topic (where have you been?)

Legal Drug Pushers | Mother Jones
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all hearsay. accusation. allegation. There's not a single shred of proof or evidence or anything at all. That's why there is no criminal charge in this article. Can you actually provide me a legal case with conviction?

Maria Tomchick is co-editor of Seattle's shamelessly biased political weekly Eat The State!, as well as a self-proclaimed "pinko" and a perpetual student of kung-fu. She is not Xena but she wouldn't mind wearing some of that leather.

Additional reporting by Mat Honan.
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:ugh2:
 
Jiro said:
all hearsay. accusation. allegation. There's not a single shred of proof or evidence or anything at all. That's why there is no criminal charge in this article. Can you actually provide me a legal case with conviction?



:ugh2:
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Plausible deniability isn't a river in Egypt.

Oh wait ... you didn't answer my question about the $520 million settlement (why fork out all that moolah if not guilty?)
 
Steinhauer said:
The list continues ....

Lawsuit Claims Pfizer Deceived Doctors Into Prescribing Its Cholesterol Drug Lipitor | BNET Pharma Blog | BNET



Holy Cow! Not another one!

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/02/business/02drug.html
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*looking around* I don't see any conviction. all allegation, accusation, finger-pointing.

It is illegal to pay doctors to prescribe certain medicines to their patients. It is not illegal to pay doctors to educate their colleagues about a medicine. In recent years, federal prosecutors have accused many drug makers of deliberately crossing that line.
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please show me any article that resulted in conviction.
 
Steinhauer said:
I will make a deal with you, I will ask you 2 questions for every question you ask me :lol:


Are you claiming the following has nothing to do with misdiagnosing patients by greedy doctors and even more greedy drug pushers?



Doctors Paid To Prescribe Generic Pills - WSJ.com

You do have google don't you?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/09/business/09anemia.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

Cancer Decisions® - Cancer Doctors Paid for Prescribing Dubious Drugs - Part II

Doctors Paid To Prescribe Generic Pills: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance,

Lilly Paid Doctors to Prescribe Zyprexa, Notes Show (Update2) - Bloomberg.com

Would you say that a U.S. Government lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies and a $520 million settlement "might" indicate that drug companies are actually "drug pushers" and doctors whom knowingly misdiagnose illnesses so they can prescribe medication are "drug pushers?":

AstraZeneca paid docs to prescribe drug, government alleged | Philly | 04/28/2010





REALLY? No! I can't believe it!

Gee whiz, its no wonder your questions are riddled with contempt and a false sense of superiority (you don't have a clue).
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you do have a brain, right? well it is unfortunate that you riddled your life with paranoia and conspiracy theories.

You don't really have a clue on what I'm asking for, do you?
 
Show. Me. The. CONVICTION. CRIMINAL CHARGE.
 
Steinhauer said:
Plausible deniability isn't a river in Egypt.

Oh wait ... you didn't answer my question about the $520 million settlement (why fork out all that moolah if not guilty?)
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settlement does not mean an admission of guilt. what does it mean if the other party agreed to accept $$$$$$$?

GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
 
DGirl101 said:
Are you forgetting that some issues like that can be from the body at no choice of the person themself or genetics or medications that they have to take?

Not a good thing to make assumptions.
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You should say same to him. It is not good to make such blanket comment "eat right! exercise!".

Steinhauer said:
Um ... no, I will bet I have better cardio than you (and strength).
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strength? well yea you're a big man. I'm glad you're stronger than me so that you can carry the deer meat for me :cool2:
 
Jiro said:
You should say same to him. It is not good to make such blanket comment "eat right! exercise!".


strength? well yea you're a big man. I'm glad you're stronger than me so that you can carry the deer meat for me :cool2:
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When are "we" going hunting?

hmmmmmm :hmm:

all hearsay?

Pfizer Broke the Law by Promoting Drugs for Unapproved Uses - Bloomberg.com

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n the agreement the lawyers eventually hammered out, the Pfizer unit, Warner-Lambert, pleaded guilty to two felony counts of marketing a drug for unapproved uses.

New York-based Pfizer agreed to pay $430 million in criminal fines and civil penalties, and the company’s lawyers assured Loucks and three other prosecutors that Pfizer and its units would stop promoting drugs for unauthorized purposes.
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wink wink nudge nudge , you sly dog you :giggle:
 
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