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KNDO/KNDU Tri-Cities, Yakima, WA | Dispute between transcribers and CWU leaves deaf, hard of hearing students without key support

Transcribers who serve deaf and hard of hearing students at Central Washington University have walked off the job.

They left over a dispute for the best way to provide services.

Five of seven transcribers quit eight days ago, giving disability support services 24-hours notice.

Now the university is scrambling to provide students with the support they need in their classes.

Cortney Peters normally has a transcriber typing out the words her teacher says, but for now, she will have to make do with someone signing since Disability Support Services doesn't have enough transcribers to serve the seven deaf and hard of hearing students at the university.

"I came here because they give the best service possible," says Peters, "They go above and beyond the what the law does to give us the service we need."

Peters has progressive hearing loss and one day will be completely deaf. All she has left is half her hearing in her left ear.

"We saw several over runs in services for hard of hearing students," says Keith Champagne, Associate Vice President of Student Affairs, "We asked what's going on here."

Champagne says Whatcom Community College has the same ‘Typewell' program in place with the same number of students, and in the spring quarter of last year, CWU's program cost twenty thousand dollars more.

Student Affairs wants to switch to a different ‘Typewell' schedule, where transcribers don't team up. They believe this will be more effective and keep costs down since transcribers are well paid and the hours can add up quickly.

"Forty dollars when you are working three hours a day is not a lot of money. Industry standard to team assignments when you are working more than an hour in length," says Glenna Bain, who used to coordinate the program at DSS before she resigned in mid-January over the best way to schedule transcribers.

Bain says the hours are different at a community college because students don't live on campus, citing how transcribers at CWU provide support to students outside the classroom for activities. She also claims Whatcom Community College did not include costs for an interpreter, or the program's coordinator.

Student Affairs reports that in the 19-days after Bain resigned, transcribers either called in sick, or to say they could not show up to work on 14-different occasions, often times with little, or no notice.

Five transcribers then sent notice to Disability Support Services Director Robert Harden on February 12th that they planned to resign the following day.

"What ended up happening is I was experiencing a lot of soreness in the bone," says Amanda Triggs.

Triggs says she got tendonitis in her wrists shortly after Bain left and a new schedule went into effect.

Eventually, she decided to resign rather than put up with the situation.

But the university claims it's the schedule Bain put together before leaving and another transcriber injured his hand in a non-work related accident that sent the schedule off kilter.

The university is also looking at a new program down the road that may phase out the need for the transcribers that are currently on staff.

But Student Affairs is actually hoping to renegotiate and bring the transcribers back to work as soon as possible.
 
Walking off the job like this, knowing that students would be left without proper services is extremely unethical. I would not hire them back, nor would they get a good reccommendation for future employment from me.
 
Walking off the job like this, knowing that students would be left without proper services is extremely unethical. I would not hire them back, nor would they get a good reccommendation for future employment from me.

I agree. Their actions are totally unexcusable.

Btw - congrats on your 10,000 posts. I love reading your posts :cheers:
 
Walking off the job like this, knowing that students would be left without proper services is extremely unethical. I would not hire them back, nor would they get a good reccommendation for future employment from me.

I agree but unfortunately due to geographical location of CWU in Ellensburg, they may have no choice but to hire them back.

Afterall who in their right mind would drive from Seattle or Spokane in the snow to work there?
 
I agree but unfortunately due to geographical location of CWU in Ellensburg, they may have no choice but to hire them back.

Afterall who in their right mind would drive from Seattle or Spokane in the snow to work there?

Working on a fulltime contract would be worth the move. Most transcribers don't have that opportunity, and have to freelance, and end up driving all over the county, or all over 2-3 counties to provide services.
 
Working on a fulltime contract would be worth the move. Most transcribers don't have that opportunity, and have to freelance, and end up driving all over the county, or all over 2-3 counties to provide services.

The question is: is the demand really worth a fulltime contract in this particular case, especially if the university is looking at a new program that may phase out the need for the transcribers that are currently on staff as stated in the article?
 
The question is: is the demand really worth a fulltime contract in this particular case, especially if the university is looking at a new program that may phase out the need for the transcribers that are currently on staff as stated in the article?

The demand is obviously great enough at this time. To phase in a new program could take 3-5 years.
 
Well you know, situtions like these are exactly why formal seperate education programs for the dhh are needed. Most mainstream programs are too open to incidents like these.
 
The demand is obviously great enough at this time. To phase in a new program could take 3-5 years.

Amazingly it takes the government less than 6 months to get taxpayers their rebate checks....

Yet it takes years for the school to get the new program implemented? If they wanted to, they could move that fast too!
 
Well you know, situtions like these are exactly why formal seperate education programs for the dhh are needed. Most mainstream programs are too open to incidents like these.

Unfortunately the quality of deaf education isn't that great in America today.

Just like hearing schools.....
 
Amazingly it takes the government less than 6 months to get taxpayers their rebate checks....

Yet it takes years for the school to get the new program implemented? If they wanted to, they could move that fast too!

And, if the government was implementing a new program for sending out rebate checks, you could count on your refund being delayed about 25 years. Please! One thing has nothing to do with another.
 
And, if the government was implementing a new program for sending out rebate checks, you could count on your refund being delayed about 25 years. Please! One thing has nothing to do with another.

Can't note the sarcasm eh?
 
Well you know, situtions like these are exactly why formal seperate education programs for the dhh are needed. Most mainstream programs are too open to incidents like these.

Wouln't it be better to attempt to change the conditions surrounding deaf education in mainstream schools as opposed to simply carting all deaf students away to isolated programs? It should be (and it -was-, for me) a perfectly reasonable to choose any highly ranked school, not just be shuttled away to some half-arsed "college" that produces students with ACT scores comparable to an intelligent 5th grader's.
 
I have no problem with them walking off the job. I do have a problem with them walking off the job when there is no replacement or when there is no break between quarters though. You cannot leave the disabled or anyone in that category without services.
 
Alser, I believe that we should offer a continum of educational services and placements. Getting a "good" education isn't as simple as just not going to a Deaf School. One of the major problems with mainstreaming is that dhh kids can very often experiance the same "oh they're just dumbasses who are gonna be on Disabilty their whole lives."
 
Alser, I believe that we should offer a continum of educational services and placements. Getting a "good" education isn't as simple as just not going to a Deaf School. One of the major problems with mainstreaming is that dhh kids can very often experiance the same "oh they're just dumbasses who are gonna be on Disabilty their whole lives."

Unless I'm misreading the article, these are college kids. That's a very different situation - students shouldn't have to pick a college based on the accommodations offered.
 
Well you know, situtions like these are exactly why formal seperate education programs for the dhh are needed. Most mainstream programs are too open to incidents like these.

No thanks. I would be vexed if someone did this for me. I don't like being forced like this.

And besides, separate education programs are also vulnerable to outside forces as mainstream programs are.
 
Unless I'm misreading the article, these are college kids. That's a very different situation - students shouldn't have to pick a college based on the accommodations offered.

True. But if you are a student in need of accommodations, it does make sense to pick one that historically has been known for going above the call of duty to provide for their students that need accommodations.
 
A little background information! =D

True. But if you are a student in need of accommodations, it does make sense to pick one that historically has been known for going above the call of duty to provide for their students that need accommodations.

My name is Cortney Peters and I am a hard of hearing student here at Central Washington University!! I was completely affected by all that went on here at central and I may even have to retake some classes! But just a little insight on why the transcribers had quit....all of the students here that were recieving accomodations before the transcrsibers "walked out" completely understood why they had put in their 24 hour resignation!! They had resigned for several reasons, and one major reason was to show the University that something was happening in the DSS office that was discriminating against our rights! Another reason was because the head DSS administrator has been cutting hours, basically cutting mine and other deaf students services, just to try and save some money!

my services have been a little better, but the only reason why all of this was resolved is because all of the students stepped in and fought for our rights! We would like to use any help that we can get to show that this man was in the wrong not our transcribers! If any of you have questions or suggestions just add it on here!! Thanks

Here is the latest news....

ELLENSBURG — A dispute between Central Washington University and its transcribers for
deaf and hard of hearing students has been resolved.

Transcribers attend class with deaf and hard of hearing students and key the instructors’ words into a computer so students know what is said.

Five of the transcribers had quit Feb. 12 over what they said were unreasonable working conditions that required them to work too long without a break. Two Labor and Industries claims had been turned in because of repetitive motion injuries.

CWU administrators said it was a matter of budget and they couldn’t afford to have transcribers teaming up, with two people transcribing for one 50-minute class.



The dispute was resolved after mediation.

“They started back Monday,” said Charlotte Tullos, vice president for student affairs and enrollment management, the office that oversees the Disability Support Services.



Tullos said team transcribing would continue and transcribers would report to her and Keith Champagne, associate vice president of student affairs. Previously they reported to Rob Harden, director of disability services.

Five transcribers, including Glenna Bain, the former coordinator for deaf and hard of hearing services for CWU, quit Feb. 12. The labor dispute left the seven deaf and hard of hearing students at CWU without the transcribers’ services from Feb. 12-25.

“We were not being listened to by the administration,” said Bain, who said she quit the coordinator job in December after more than seven months working under Harden’s supervision. She had worked as coordinator for five years.

After leaving the coordinator position, she came back to help out as a transcriber, a part-time position without benefits that pays between $20-40 an hour. She quit with the other transcribers Feb. 12.

During most of her tenure as coordinator, Bain said she set the schedules in a way that allowed two transcribers to attend class with a student, so that they wouldn’t have to type more than 40 minutes without a break.

She tried to keep the same transcribers in the same classes so they would have some sense of the subject. A 24-hour cancellation notice was honored, where transcribers would be paid if they received less than a 24-hour notice they weren’t needed.

That changed when Harden became director of disability support services. She said he was focused on the budget more than on transcribers’ well being.

“I observed him to be committed to keeping budgetary concerns at the forefront of his scheduling considerations,” Bain wrote in a statement.

When contacted for his side of the story, Harden referred the reporter to Champagne.

Champagne said the program had been over budget and changes were needed.

“We were looking at budget overruns,” said Champagne. He said the university had exceeded its budget two or three times. “If you are being held to standard of being a good steward of taxpayer money, any good administrator seeing overruns has to look at costs.”

He said the university attempted to see what schools in similar situations were doing. The school that provided information first was Whatcom Community College, he said.

Whatcom spent $26,989 for transcribing services while CWU paid $46,222 during spring quarter 2007. University administrators figured sending two people to a 50-minute class was one reason for the overruns.

Bain said the comparison was unfair.

“It’s not (comparing) apples to apples,” she said. Students don’t live on a community college campus and don’t need the services of a transcriber at night the way students who live on a university campus do. Whatcom had support personnel to help with the program who weren’t counted in their figures, she said.

Champagne said he thought it was a fair comparison. Both institutions used the same TypeWell system and had a similar number of deaf and hard of hearing students.

During the time the transcribers didn’t work, CWU used note takers and sign language interpreters to translate instructors’ lectures, said Tullos.

CWU is also trying out a CART system, which uses software and a microphone to translate instructor’s words that then appear on a student’s laptop computer. The CART system wouldn’t require transcribers, she said. But Tullos said CART is not a perfect solution. It hasn’t been able to translate completely and doesn’t pick up anybody’s words other than the instructor’s, whereas transcribers can.

Tullos said she has a better understanding of what transcribers do, which is more than attend class and transcribe. They also prepare notes for the student and occasionally accompany a student to an evening event to transcribe.

“I learned a lot,” she said. “It’s a specialized skill.”

Bain took another job and didn’t return to CWU. She said transcribers were unfairly criticized when they quit, because they gave only 24 hours notice.

“It was portrayed in the media as though the transcribers just walked out,” she said. She said the transcribers tried to resolve the conflict but felt the CWU administration was uncooperative until they quit. “We didn’t want to do this,” she said.
 
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