Disabling Cars Over the Internet.....

Dixie said:
I think this a good idea, you will be allowed to drive your vehicle when we receive your payment in full and the check has cleared. I'm pretty sure they have to give you a 15 day grace-period before disabling the vehicle, they probably send a monthly statement in the mail, or at least a mail notification of a late payment, if not received by XX-date, the vehicle will be disabled until payment is received. Perfectly good concept really.
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Interesting concept. That should prevent too many dangerous repo jobs. I've seen a TV show about how difficult being a repo guy/gal when taking away boats, cars, anything that hasn't been paid in months.
 
sequoias said:
Interesting concept. That should prevent too many dangerous repo jobs. I've seen a TV show about how difficult being a repo guy/gal when taking away boats, cars, anything that hasn't been paid in months.
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Tell me about it. I am having to repo some farm equipment I gave a loan for this month. Also having to foreclose on a home I built.....that is easier though. I do that at the courthouse and the sheriff runs them off.
 
Babyblue said:
No different from repoing a car.

Still left stranded, due to not paying the payments.

Don't pay the light bill you get left in the dark. Same concept.
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That including poor people who are oxygen dependent and the oxygen tank is generated by electricity??

A woman here in the US (trying to find that story, hate it when news media websites allows stories to expire) died in her sleep within minutes after some guys with an order to shut off her electric as a result of being behind payments. They ignored the sign posted on front and back doors stating she is oxygen dependent and shutting off her electricity would result in death.

She is a poor elderly with SS as her only source of income.

Family members told the electric company that she is oxygen dependent and asked that this information be on her electric account to avoid potential problems.

Last I read, a lawsuit is in the works.

Here's another story that happened to another victim in NZ
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003728829_billdeath31.html

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
That including poor people who are oxygen dependent and the oxygen tank is generated by electricity??

A woman here in the US (trying to find that story, hate it when news media websites allows stories to expire) died in her sleep within minutes after some guys with an order to shut off her electric as a result of being behind payments. They ignored the sign posted on front and back doors stating she is oxygen dependent and shutting off her electricity would result in death.

She is a poor elderly with SS as her only source of income.

Family members told the electric company that she is oxygen dependent and asked that this information be on her electric account to avoid potential problems.

Last I read, a lawsuit is in the works.
Yiz
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Her family will lose the lawsuit. A company is not required by law to show compassion That her family knew about the situation puts them in poor light. They should have sought assistance or other accommodations
 
Repoing a car is not the same thing as a person breathing oxygen from a tank. You will do just fine without a car...just find other way like taking the bus or ask a friend/family for a ride until it's paid for.
 
I am not saying it is the right thing.....Based on the details given it's horrible. It would also be horrible for our country if the family won the lawsuit because it would be another case where a jury acted outside the law.
 
Like the case in NZ that I had linked, who lost her life after he OFFERED to show the men who was about to cut off her electricity to come inside and see for themselves that her oxygen tank is hooked to electricity. I have no doubt he has medical documentation to back up the patient's claims.

They ignored him and shut it off. That to me is reckless homicide. You cannot say that the law is more important than a woman's life.

More especially the company went apeshit over a freakin' $122 bill! So $122.00 is more important than the patient whose life is far more valuable than $122.00.

Electricity is regenerable, human life is not regeneratable.
 
TXgolfer said:
I am not saying it is the right thing.....Based on the details given it's horrible. It would also be horrible for our country if the family won the lawsuit because it would be another case where a jury acted outside the law.
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When a law disregards human life, it's not a law at all.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
Like the case in NZ that I had linked, who lost her life after he OFFERED to show the men who was about to cut off her electricity to come inside and see for themselves that her oxygen tank is hooked to electricity. I have no doubt he has medical documentation to back up the patient's claims.

They ignored him and shut it off. That to me is reckless homicide. You cannot say that the law is more important than a woman's life.

More especially the company went apeshit over a freakin' $122 bill! So $122.00 is more important than the patient whose life is far more valuable than $122.00.

Electricity is regenerable, human life is not regeneratable.
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Not the companies problem. I am sure they here many stories every day....Law may be different in NZ though.:dunno:

Story sounds kind of bogus though. You would think there would be a back up plan in case of electrical outage.....Those happen all the time.
 
Ah, it's a state owned company....might make a difference. I still blame the family. They had notices. The question is what kind of family member allows that to happen? How did they not move her or pay the bill in 7 weeks time?
 
TXgolfer said:
Ah, it's a state owned company....might make a difference. I still blame the family. They had notices. The question is what kind of family member allows that to happen? How did they not move her or pay the bill in 7 weeks time?
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If they interfered, they will be jailed. Not all families can afford some things. It's likely they're all poor and have nowhere else to go.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
That including poor people who are oxygen dependent and the oxygen tank is generated by electricity??

A woman here in the US (trying to find that story, hate it when news media websites allows stories to expire) died in her sleep within minutes after some guys with an order to shut off her electric as a result of being behind payments. They ignored the sign posted on front and back doors stating she is oxygen dependent and shutting off her electricity would result in death.

She is a poor elderly with SS as her only source of income.

Family members told the electric company that she is oxygen dependent and asked that this information be on her electric account to avoid potential problems.

Last I read, a lawsuit is in the works.

Here's another story that happened to another victim in NZ
Nation & World | New Zealand woman on oxygen pump dies after power to home is cut off | Seattle Times Newspaper

Yiz
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It's sad that the woman died. Loss of life is bad.

I don't think the electricity company would shut it off without sending a warning or two to the person or people who live there. Her family would be in the wrong since they did nothing. They assumed that the electricity company would make sure that the poor lady would have electricity.

Big thing on my mind is this....What if there was an electricity outage?

Did they prepare for that? Obviously not, as you can see she died because there was no back up plan in place.
 
yizuman said:
If they interfered, they will be jailed. Not all families can afford some things. It's likely they're all poor and have nowhere else to go.

Yiz
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Well it's still on the family if it happens here. Not sure about NZ. Here they could go to a church, hospital,city office,county office,state office tons of places for help. No excuses. My electric company offers aid in this situation. They had 7 weeks to figure it out. And again...what if there was a power outage?
 
TXgolfer said:
Well it's still on the family if it happens here. Not sure about NZ. Here they could go to a church, hospital,city office,county office,state office tons of places for help. No excuses. My electric company offers aid in this situation. They had 7 weeks to figure it out. And again...what if there was a power outage?
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Depends on the quality of power lines all the way down to the company itself.

Mine is storm sensitive, due to in part that the power lines has been replaced by cheaper lines, low quality kinds. It don't take much of a storm for the lights to go out. Converter boxes is cheaply made and they blow out too easily, causing hours of power loss before someone can come out there and replace it.

I used to work for a plastic molding company that made those converter boxes and I see how cheaply made these designs are and can see why they easily blow out.

Mainly because high end boxes is expensive to replace when they blow out, but they don't blow out too easily. It can sit there for many years before it does finally go out. So in my opinion, I'll take expensive ones that will last longer than cheaply made ones. Quality beats quantity in any day.

Yiz
 
yizuman said:
Like the case in NZ that I had linked, who lost her life after he OFFERED to show the men who was about to cut off her electricity to come inside and see for themselves that her oxygen tank is hooked to electricity. I have no doubt he has medical documentation to back up the patient's claims.

They ignored him and shut it off. That to me is reckless homicide. You cannot say that the law is more important than a woman's life.

More especially the company went apeshit over a freakin' $122 bill! So $122.00 is more important than the patient whose life is far more valuable than $122.00.

Electricity is regenerable, human life is not regeneratable.
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I got to thinking about this....if it was MY own mother who was on a pump and a tech is there to shut the electricity off, I would have dialed 911 and had the paramedics there to help her.

If i knew about the bill...I would have paid it, who cares if I needed the money. It's my mother's life. I'd pay it.
 
TX Golfer does make a valid point and so does Yiz.

The family of the woman were probably not the brightest bulbs in the county and probably did not completely think the situation all the way through BEFORE a situation arose. They never had a plan B when plan A failed.

They had seven weeks to figure it out. That should have been ample time to seek out assistance and possibly move her into a nursing home or even into one of their own homes. Knowing she was on extremely limited income they should have made arrangements YEARS ago. They should have said OK when mom's expenses exceed 70% of her income we will need to either move her in with one of us or one of us needs to move in with her and help her with her expenses or even a state run nursing home.

Given that she is heavily oxygen dependent I am surprised she had not been moved to an assisted living facility yet, or at least had home health there with her daily.

Sadly the family did not prepare and their mother had to pay the price for that lack of preparedness.

You cannot replace human life while electricity can be reused and regenerated. Don't depend on someone else to solve your problems, you have to save yourself. This is exactly what the family did. They waited around like children for someone to come along and solve the problem for them instead of taking the initiative to solve themselves and do so ahead of time.
 
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