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Jiro said:
you poor bastard....
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I also had psychedelic experiences when they were using the gas on me as a child. I'd feel an odd sensation throughout my body and then begin to hallucinate with odd music that resembled house music in my head, though it had yet to be invented.

I refused to let them use the gas on me for the CI surgery.. at least not while I was awake. They put me out using the IV.
 
BleedingPurist said:
However, you are free to continue to try to declare a surgery that is done on an out-patient basis with the patient going home after a few hours on the same day as major.
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Sorry for a bit off-topic, but I'm still fascinated by the fact that in the U.S. CI surgery is an out-patient surgery while in my country people after CI surgery stay at least 4-7 days in the hospital..
Maybe I can ask our CI surgeon about that (if my second CI will be approved, otherwise I won't see him) :D
 
CSign said:
For clarification purposes: Are you saying one is right, and one is wrong? Or are you saying they are both right, depending on the individual?
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For re-clarification purposes: I said there is a perfectly valid clause for people to be against Cochlear Implantation for infants, just as people may be against circumcision.

There is nothing more to be read out of what is being said in that post.

I am not looking forward to seeing arguments from any pro-infant implantation in this thread again and I don't expect anti-infant implantation arguments to surface when they don't appear. Please respect the opinions of the other position on infant implantation and we can all move on.

This goes just so the record is set straight, the majority of people here are not against adult CI implantation.
 
I actually disagree with the analogy between circumcision and CIs. In one scenario you are removing a body part unnecessarily. In the other, you are adding a sense....nothing is being removed. It would work if the child was born with a malformed penis lacking a foreskin and a surgical procedure was done to add foreskin.
 
BleedingPurist said:
I actually disagree with the analogy between circumcision and CIs. In one scenario you are removing a body part unnecessarily. In the other, you are adding a sense....nothing is being removed. It would work if the child was born with a malformed penis lacking a foreskin and a surgical procedure was done to add foreskin.
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Analogy correct. Both procedures alter the body.
 
I have a friend who recently had CI surgery... she had to stay overnight, but that was because she got 2 CIs in 1 surgery (she had her old CI replaced, and decided to go bilateral at the same time). She's had a rough time recovering (lots of dizziness), and recently had only the left CI turned on. She's still struggling with dizziness and a lot of tinnitus, and isn't at all impressed with the CI sounds yet so far (but hopefully that will improve for her). I feel bad for her.

Myself, I had no dizziness or anything. I did get sick a few hours after surgery, but after that I was fine. I did get sick again for a couple of days the next week, but I think I rushed it in getting up and going so that was partly my own fault. Had very minor pain, and preferred to take ibuprofen over vicoden to help with the pain. I would probably more than likely go bilateral for myself and go through this again, whenever it gets to the point where the hearing aid is no longer of any benefit to my right ear.


Zajko, different countries will have their own methods of dealing with CI surgery. Here in the US it is generally done as an outpatient procedure (unless the patient hasn't recovered just enough to go home and end up staying overnight). But I don't think one should need to stay in the hospital for a few days after the surgery, not unless they were having serious problems that requires medical attention. At least 1 night is understandable. But again, each country will have their own guidelines.
 
BleedingPurist said:
I actually disagree with the analogy between circumcision and CIs. In one scenario you are removing a body part unnecessarily. In the other, you are adding a sense....nothing is being removed. It would work if the child was born with a malformed penis lacking a foreskin and a surgical procedure was done to add foreskin.
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Try to look at it from a decisive / modular position, not from the semantics of the operation involved.

-Both are considered 'invasive surgeries'.
-Both operations, I am sure 99.9999% of all infants will be screaming in pain against having their skin, or skull in CI's operation case, cut off if they were not on anesthesia.
-Both are often decisions made by parents onto their child, whether informed or uninformed.
-Both surgeries, the children are perfectly capable of making when they are older.
 
Bottesini said:
Get the surgery, then tell us all about how it feels.

I know several people who had it. They didn't think it was minor, and it took quite a while for recovery.
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I am getting it. I will let ya know. Doctor could be wrong... :dunno:
 
naisho;2071853 -[B said:
Both[/B] surgeries, the children are perfectly capable of making when they are older.
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Not the same. A child can decide to remove their foreskin later with the outcome being the same. A child that failed to develop an auditory brain cannot choose to get an implant later and receive the same benefit.

My hearing loss was worse than many of the prelinguals I had met over time who used hearing aids, but my ability to use what I had left was much greater giving the illusion (and actually the functional reality) of having better hearing than those who would test higher on an audiogram.

You can argue that hearing is unnecessary for a child, but you can't argue against science when it comes the reasons why a child should be provided with the best hearing possible as early as possible if they are to develop it.
 
TXgolfer said:
Just one....been planning on it.... Hopefully this winter. Too much going on till then.
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Good luck!:wave: I know another late deafened adult that I'm friends with and she got hers last year and loves it!
 
Frisky Feline said:
yeah. some of them had to stay at the hospital for the overnight. some of them puked, some of them puked begged for a pain killer. so its still a major surgery.
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Really? Honestly, no it's not. It's no more "major" then having your ligament repaired or other minor outpatient procedure. Also people puke because of the anesthesia; not the surgery itself. This may occur with ANY procedure and can be alleviated with medication. As for staying over night, that is also not always because of the severity of the procedure, but, insurance requirements. A big difference.

As I said above, as far as surgery goes, it's minor. Most of the time, people go home the same day.
 
AlleyCat said:
I do believe you because you had the surgery, so thank you for sharing. I like your truthfulness. I don't like it when people who didn't experience something (whether it's a surgery or ANYTHING else) pretend to know how something is.

And yes, everyone has different reactions. We all read here about Angle's unfortunate reaction that took her weeks to get over, unfortunately. :( I just would never go so ridiculously far to compare this to something like tonsil surgery, sorry.

Not everybody here has a hidden agenda.
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Have you had a tonsilectomy or CI surgery? I've not had CI surgery, but, I have had a tonsilectomy. I was 11. I also have had over 30 other surgeries, so I think I can compare it. It's not rocket science, dear.
 
Can anyone name a major surgery that can be done on an outpatient basis? (not CI)
 
Oceanbreeze said:
Really? Honestly, no it's not. It's no more "major" then having your ligament repaired or other minor outpatient procedure. Also people puke because of the anesthesia; not the surgery itself. This may occur with ANY procedure and can be alleviated with medication. As for staying over night, that is also not always because of the severity of the procedure, but, insurance requirements. A big difference.

As I said above, as far as surgery goes, it's minor. Most of the time, people go home the same day.
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You didn't read what bleedingp and i had discussion about that already. It is my own witness that it is a major surgery to me. :aw:
 
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