Deaf school in WV looking for renovation needs

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Apparently, that school is a historical spot in WV. It seems like not every historical buildings will get help from state to renovate. I recall that Wrigley Field in Chicago got help to renovate their building. It seems like this WV school will not be getting any help.

It's hard decision. Spend money to renovate? Just start from scratch or send deaf/HOH kids to their local schools?

WV MetroNews – School for deaf and blind receives scrutiny

There’s usually not much news about the West Virginia School for the Deaf and Blind. The institution that provides an education for deaf and blind children sits quietly in Romney on a sprawling campus with 16 major buildings on 79 acres.
But the long-standing school—it was established in 1870—is making headlines these days. And, as usual, it’s about the money.
A number of the historic buildings at the school are in bad shape. Certain areas are cordoned off with yellow construction tape. By some estimates, it would take at least $60 million dollars, or nearly five times the schools’ annual budget, to make all the necessary repairs.
Earlier this month, school Superintendent Lynn Boyer asked the state Board of Education, which oversees the school, for several million dollars to get the repairs started.
The board, rather than just handing over the money, started asking questions.
Is it worth spending $60 million on the old buildings? Would it be more economical to build a new facility that’s more centrally located? Are there better ways to educate the 120 deaf and blind students in their own communities?
That triggered a dust-up. The Hampshire Review newspaper posted an online story this week under a “Breaking News” headline. The mere possibility that the school, which is one of the largest employers in Hampshire County, might move sent shockwaves through the community.
The fears are somewhat premature.
“There’s no race to close the place,” a Tomblin administration official told me. “It would be a big loss to Romney.”
However, the responsibility falls to Superintendent Boyer to come back to the State Board at its next meeting and justify spending millions of dollars to refurbish the place. And this comes at a time when state government is looking for ways to save money, not spend more.
It’s worth noting, however, that the responsibility for providing for the school, and having it in Romney, is in the state code. Chapter 18, Article 8, Section 10 spells out the state’s responsibility for compulsory education of the deaf and blind, and even specifies that parents “shall be required to send such minor to the West Virginia schools for the deaf and blind at Romney (emphasis added).
It’s fair and responsible for the School Board to pose the questions, rather than simply writing the big check of taxpayer dollars. Sixty million dollars is real money, especially at a time when the Tomblin administration is trying to hold the line on spending.
Additionally, it’s reasonable to question whether the aging Romney campus is the best location to provide the necessary instruction and life skills to the students.
However, you can imagine the protests if the School Board decided to close the school or move it elsewhere. One protest at the State Capitol during the Legislative session by deaf and blind children accompanied by the teachers and employees of the school would be enough to stop that in its tracks.
 
Renovate. I know from an alum that part of the problem with WVSDB is that it's out in the boonies, so it's hard to attract talented Deaf teachers. But relocating the school would be extremely expensive. Also, West Virginia doesn't educate its hearing and sighted children very well so how can it educate it's dhh and blind/low vision kids? I think that Deaf (and Blind) schools are a great resource and are sorely underutilized. There should ALWAYS be a center based school available, especially in rural states. Besides, the overwhelming majority of kids at specialized schools are ex-mainstreamers.
 
$500,000 per student in renovations? Shut it down.
 
I can see why the state wouldn't want to help. Spend $500K for 120 students doesn't seem practical. Then again, what is it going to cost to send those 120 students to public schools? Think about accomodations that they'll need. They would cost a lot, but not sure if it'll be $500K.

That is cool that school is in a rural setting. Good for people who would enjoy the lifestyle. Not many people know about school so their use is limited. I'm sure if there were a lot more than 120 students, the state would help. It seems like state is losing money having the school run.
 
I can see why the state wouldn't want to help. Spend $500K for 120 students doesn't seem practical. Then again, what is it going to cost to send those 120 students to public schools? Think about accomodations that they'll need. They would cost a lot, but not sure if it'll be $500K.

That is cool that school is in a rural setting. Good for people who would enjoy the lifestyle. Not many people know about school so their use is limited. I'm sure if there were a lot more than 120 students, the state would help. It seems like state is losing money having the school run.

$500k is just to renovate. It doesn't account for operating the school. They could send each of them their own in home teacher for $40k
 
$500k is just to renovate. It doesn't account for operating the school. They could send each of them their own in home teacher for $40k

Txgolfer, FYI most students at schools for the Deaf are mainstream transfers. Also, there's always a significant amount of students with multiple issues who aren't well served in the mainstream. Also the problem is that the mainstream may not be much better. Do you think a blind or dhh kid would get an education in an Appalachian town where even sighted and hearing kids get a horrible education? The reason why specialized schools still have lasted, even 40 years after mainstreaming became the norm is b/c the mainstream can be a really crappy place.
 
"Too bad, so sad. Not my problem. You should have invested better."
 
Txgolfer, FYI most students at schools for the Deaf are mainstream transfers. Also, there's always a significant amount of students with multiple issues who aren't well served in the mainstream. Also the problem is that the mainstream may not be much better. Do you think a blind or dhh kid would get an education in an Appalachian town where even sighted and hearing kids get a horrible education? The reason why specialized schools still have lasted, even 40 years after mainstreaming became the norm is b/c the mainstream can be a really crappy place.

Then fix the mainstream schools. That way everybody wins.
 
$500k is just to renovate. It doesn't account for operating the school. They could send each of them their own in home teacher for $40k

Home school them? NO!

It's hard to put a dollar amount on the socialization factor that we get from growing up in a Deaf community with Deaf friends, teachers, librarians, heck... we even have a Deaf nurse here at TSD. I'm in the "it's worth it" corner. Being mainstreamed myself, entering the Deaf world was the most significant SINGLE personal growth that I had while growing up. My "emotional" issues went away almost overnight. Bullying... gone. Communication... FINALLY THERE! The ability to remove the ostracizing behaviors was priceless for me. It changed my life.

$500,000 is a hell of a lot of money. Renovate? Move? Whatever they decide, they must not make the state school for the Deaf defunct. Period. Besides, placing a $500,000 price tag on a single year of students isn't really portraying it's true value. Let's say the 60m renovations last a good 30 years which makes for 3600 total students. That's $16,666 per student. Long term, that's good value.
 
Home school them? NO!

It's hard to put a dollar amount on the socialization factor that we get from growing up in a Deaf community with Deaf friends, teachers, librarians, heck... we even have a Deaf nurse here at TSD. I'm in the "it's worth it" corner. Being mainstreamed myself, entering the Deaf world was the most significant SINGLE personal growth that I had while growing up. My "emotional" issues went away almost overnight. Bullying... gone. Communication... FINALLY THERE! The ability to remove the ostracizing behaviors was priceless for me. It changed my life.

$500,000 is a hell of a lot of money. Renovate? Move? Whatever they decide, they must not make the state school for the Deaf defunct. Period. Besides, placing a $500,000 price tag on a single year of students isn't really portraying it's true value. Let's say the 60m renovations last a good 30 years which makes for 3600 total students. That's $16,666 per student. That's good value.

He didnt say home school them. He meant teachers at their home schools (their neighborhood schools).
 
Home school them? NO!

It's hard to put a dollar amount on the socialization factor that we get from growing up in a Deaf community with Deaf friends, teachers, librarians, heck... we even have a Deaf nurse here at TSD. I'm in the "it's worth it" corner. Being mainstreamed myself, entering the Deaf world was the most significant SINGLE personal growth that I had while growing up. My "emotional" issues went away almost overnight. Bullying... gone. Communication... FINALLY THERE! The ability to remove the ostracizing behaviors was priceless for me. It changed my life.

$500,000 is a hell of a lot of money. Renovate? Move? Whatever they decide, they must not make the state school for the Deaf defunct. Period. Besides, placing a $500,000 price tag on a single year of students isn't really portraying it's true value. Let's say the 60m renovations last a good 30 years which makes for 3600 total students. That's $16,666 per student. Long term, that's good value.

That is a great story. But I disagree with you on renovations being a worthy expense for taxpayers. They would be better off building new structures.
 
West VA could ask federal for funding like our state deaf school did with major renovation, or state can issue a bond.

I support to keep this deaf school opens and the major renovation can be expensive for sure, so I believe that educate the deaf students are important than money.
 
I believe that educate the deaf students are important than money.

It might be difficult to convince contractors of that. :)

Actually, my first thought when I saw the title of the thread was to loan them some equipment and perhaps volunteer some hours. But $60 million??? Not worth it.
 
Renovate. I know from an alum that part of the problem with WVSDB is that it's out in the boonies, so it's hard to attract talented Deaf teachers. But relocating the school would be extremely expensive. Also, West Virginia doesn't educate its hearing and sighted children very well so how can it educate it's dhh and blind/low vision kids? I think that Deaf (and Blind) schools are a great resource and are sorely underutilized. There should ALWAYS be a center based school available, especially in rural states. Besides, the overwhelming majority of kids at specialized schools are ex-mainstreamers.

Yup, I agree with you.

I'm curious about cost of build the new deaf school - they need cafeteria, library, classroom, basketball gym, swimming pool, computer lab, media center, agribusiness, student union, dorm, auditorium, football field, playground and administration office.
 
Not sure what that has to do with renovations.

Means more deaf children would go to a deaf school instead of being mainstreamed and then to find out that they need the support from a fully deaf program....

more students, more justification to spend the $$$.

More students are mainstreamed due the medical point of view.
 
Means more deaf children would go to a deaf school instead of being mainstreamed and then to find out that they need the support from a fully deaf program....

more students, more justification to spend the $$$.

More students are mainstreamed due the medical point of view.

I'm not sure that should be a taxpayer concern.
 
I'm not sure that should be a taxpayer concern.

Medicaid pay CI and any treatment related to deafness - of course, it come from taxpayer funds.

What next - Obamacare.
 
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