Deaf school in WV looking for renovation needs

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TXgolfer said:
I don't know how many there are. There is one in North Texas that is absolutely disturbing. I won't name it. They have been in the news a lot though. Personally, I would mainstream and tutor mine and then send them to Deaf camps and activities for social stuff. But, like I said, as long as the school is successful in educating AND somewhat similar in cost, I am cool with it as a voter.
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There's only one state Deaf School in Texas FYI. Do you mean a Dhh program? Those can be awful....and indeed you have to remember that the overwhelming majority of the students at Deaf Schools or even programs for the deaf are transfers from the mainstream. I really think they need to emphasize specialized early childhood education for dhh (and blind/low vision and other low incidence but still academic) students..
 
deafdyke said:
There's only one state Deaf School in Texas FYI. Do you mean a Dhh program? Those can be awful....and indeed you have to remember that the overwhelming majority of the students at Deaf Schools or even programs for the deaf are transfers from the mainstream. I really think they need to emphasize specialized early childhood education for dhh (and blind/low vision and other low incidence but still academic) students..
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I'm just guessing but I feel pretty good that he's referring to Jean Massieu Academy. It's an awful, POS program up in Arlington... and it's an extensive K-12 Deaf program which includes CODAs (which was our attraction as we have a hearing son). We walked away so disappointed.

http://www.jeanmassieu.com/

If he's referring to another... my apologies and my POS statement stands.
 
deafdyke said:
There's only one state Deaf School in Texas FYI. Do you mean a Dhh program? Those can be awful....and indeed you have to remember that the overwhelming majority of the students at Deaf Schools or even programs for the deaf are transfers from the mainstream. I really think they need to emphasize specialized early childhood education for dhh (and blind/low vision and other low incidence but still academic) students..
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Who said "state?"
 
deafdyke said:
There's only one state Deaf School in Texas FYI. Do you mean a Dhh program? Those can be awful....and indeed you have to remember that the overwhelming majority of the students at Deaf Schools or even programs for the deaf are transfers from the mainstream. I really think they need to emphasize specialized early childhood education for dhh (and blind/low vision and other low incidence but still academic) students..
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The mainstream school was big failure for me so that why I was transferred to deaf school.
 
TXgolfer said:
Ah, that is where we disagree. I believe students are more likely to be successful long term through a mainstream school. I think a specialized school actually limits networking opportunities. The world is a mainstream world for the most part. Especially in the job market. I think kids are more likely to suffer a "culture shock" moving from specialized schools to everyday life. That is just my opinion. That doesn't mean close the schools....just improve them.
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Um, most if not all kids who attend Deaf Schools aren't in this Deaf only bubble........And trust me, it's a lot harder to develop networking oppertunties through a mainstream school for low incidence kids. ....there's a LOT of prejudice out there, and it is near on impossible to find disability friendly employers. Instead a typical experience is that a dhh kid applies for a job, and then a dumbassed middle manager takes one look at your hearing aids or hears your voice, and suddenly there's not a job available....
Besides, if your theory was correct, there wouldn't be a huge unemployment rate among people with disabilities....Most kids are indeed mainstreamed/suffer through inclusion. Hasn't made a dent.
 
Foxrac said:
The mainstream school was big failure for me so that why I was transferred to deaf school.
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It's why we "end up" in that setting. I hate what that means... which is exactly as deafdyke said... last resort. We missed out for sure. I'm so glad my son isn't.
 
NitroHonda said:
I'm just guessing but I feel pretty good that he's referring to Jean Massieu Academy. It's an awful, POS program up in Arlington... and it's an extensive K-12 Deaf program which includes CODAs (which was our attraction as we have a hearing son). We walked away so disappointed.

Jean Massieu Academy | Signing, Soaring, Succeeding

If he's referring to another... my apologies and my POS statement stands.
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Really? What's wrong with it? Besides, I thought it wasn't a deaf school per se.....it just had a 20% dhh population......I know not all Deaf Schools are good, but there are still a lot of really good programs and schools....AND I mean the fact that there are Deaf charter school programs still being founded (and not just those AG BAD "speech schools", that are just oral preschools) proves that the mainstream isn't all that.....and they're being founded ALL over the place.........Minnisota (Metro Deaf School) Arizona (Sequioa School for the Deaf and HOH) Colarado (Rocky Mountain Deaf School)
 
deafdyke said:
Really? What's wrong with it? Besides, I thought it wasn't a deaf school per se.....it just had a 20% dhh population......I know not all Deaf Schools are good, but there are still a lot of really good programs and schools....AND I mean the fact that there are Deaf charter school programs still being founded (and not just those AG BAD "speech schools", that are just oral preschools) proves that the mainstream isn't all that.....and they're being founded ALL over the place.........Minnisota (Metro Deaf School) Arizona (Sequioa School for the Deaf and HOH) Colarado (Rocky Mountain Deaf School)
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I heard about Utah School for the Deaf is mostly oral deaf students. :(
 
NitroHonda said:
It's why we "end up" in that setting. I hate what that means... which is exactly as deafdyke said... last resort. We missed out for sure. I'm so glad my son isn't.
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I know............I really think that they need to rewrite sped law so that they recognize that low incidence kids aren't getting the specialized services and education they need. They need to use the specialized schools to deliever those services. ...Heck according to special ed theory blind and low vision kids are supposedly pretty easy to educate via an inclusion model. Guess what? There is a Blind Children's Center that set up a kindergarten, first and second grade b/c
Blind Childrens Center
Many parents of Center students who have left the Center have told us that although they were promised specialized services for their children, they have not received them
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It's not just a dhh thing...its a low incidence thing........
 
deafdyke said:
Um, most if not all kids who attend Deaf Schools aren't in this Deaf only bubble........And trust me, it's a lot harder to develop networking oppertunties through a mainstream school for low incidence kids. ....there's a LOT of prejudice out there, and it is near on impossible to find disability friendly employers. Instead a typical experience is that a dhh kid applies for a job, and then a dumbassed middle manager takes one look at your hearing aids or hears your voice, and suddenly there's not a job available....
Besides, if your theory was correct, there wouldn't be a huge unemployment rate among people with disabilities....Most kids are indeed mainstreamed/suffer through inclusion. Hasn't made a dent.
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We disagree.
 
Foxrac said:
I heard about Utah School for the Deaf is mostly oral deaf students. :(
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Actually Utah School really isn't a traditional School for the Deaf, and hasn't been for quite a few years. It's a very tiny res school and Jean Massiau in SLC, with a couple of oral deaf classrooms. They count any dhh student as a deaf school student, but they are BIG heavy on inclusion and oral only....very sad.
 
TXgolfer said:
We disagree.
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Txgolfer, have you actually experienced trying to find a job while being dhh, after experiencing an inclusive setting? I doubt it. I have, and trust me it is HARD. Whereas the friends I have with Deaf School/community connections have been able to find jobs EASILY!
 
deafdyke said:
Txgolfer, have you actually experienced trying to find a job while being dhh, after experiencing an inclusive setting? I doubt it. I have, and trust me it is HARD. Whereas the friends I have with Deaf School/community connections have been able to find jobs EASILY!
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I ran a business being deaf, I had to sell and make presentations being deaf. I had to convince insurance co, home owners, home depot, lowes, property mangers and the like that I could do their work. It was like having 2-3 job interviews every day. So yeah, I know a little bit about it.
 
TXgolfer said:
I ran a business being deaf, I had to sell and make presentations being deaf. I had to convince insurance co, home owners, home depot, lowes, property mangers and the like that I could do their work. It was like having 2-3 job interviews every day. So yeah, I know a little bit about it.
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Yes, but you're late deafened. You had the advantage of growing up in a hearing world, and getting all those advantages. You didn't grow up deaf ...that's a completely different kettle of fish you know. Heck even going dhh as a teen or postlingally is different from going dhh as an adult.
 
deafdyke said:
Yes, but you're late deafened. You had the advantage of growing up in a hearing world, and getting all those advantages. You didn't grow up deaf ...that's a completely different kettle of fish you know. Heck even going dhh as a teen or postlingally is different from going dhh as an adult.
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Actually that is a pretty bad assumption. Being LD, not being able to hear in that setting was new to me. It wasn't something I had years to adjust to. Also after having a labyrnthectomy I had to convince people that I had enough balance to be on a roof 26 feet in the air and be on ladders 15-20ft in the air. I had more to overcome, not less. I received tons of rejection. I know all about it. I worked through it.
 
TXgolfer said:
Actually that is a pretty bad assumption. Being LD, not being able to hear in that setting was new to me. It wasn't something I had years to adjust to. Also after having a labyrnthectomy I had to convince people that I had enough balance to be on a roof 26 feet in the air and be on ladders 15-20ft in the air. I had more to overcome, not less. I received tons of rejection. I know all about it. I worked through it.
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That's not bad assumption because growing as deaf from born is very different from late deafened, that's really strongly different.

I'm taking your opinion about educate the deaf children as grain of salt.
 
Foxrac said:
That's not bad assumption because growing as deaf from born is very different from late deafened, that's really strongly different.

I'm taking your opinion about educate the deaf children as grain of salt.
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Ok :)
 
TXgolfer said:
I ran a business being deaf, I had to sell and make presentations being deaf. I had to convince insurance co, home owners, home depot, lowes, property mangers and the like that I could do their work. It was like having 2-3 job interviews every day. So yeah, I know a little bit about it.
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I'm a small business owner myself with actual employees. I'm a hardhat guy. I work with insurance companies, property managers, and big box stores daily (no home owners as I'm 100% commercial). I don't really have much trouble dealing with them whatsoever. As a result, I'm not sure what you're getting at. My biggest issue is actually getting the client in the first place when they make that first call. Once we establish our network... we're good... definitely a green light for me to sell and make presentations.

May I ask why you are no longer in business? Any chance that your deafness had to do with it?
 
TXgolfer said:
Actually that is a pretty bad assumption. Being LD, not being able to hear in that setting was new to me. It wasn't something I had years to adjust to. Also after having a labyrnthectomy I had to convince people that I had enough balance to be on a roof 26 feet in the air and be on ladders 15-20ft in the air. I had more to overcome, not less. I received tons of rejection. I know all about it. I worked through it.
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Not to discredit your struggle as it was very real...

This has what to do with language acquisition? Being capable of doing a job is not the REAL issue at hand... it's being able to say that you can.
 
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