Deaf activists oppose California bill that would develop brochure for parents

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Deaf activists oppose California bill that would develop brochure for parents - McClatchy Network - Kentucky.com

It's strong language to accuse a state assemblyman of pushing a "eugenics" bill that could threaten deaf people.

But in an emotionally charged fight, California deaf activists have invoked the word as they battle a bill that could pass the state Legislature within a week.

Tony Mendoza, a Democrat from Artesia, near Los Angeles, said he has been surprised at how vehement deaf opposition is to his Assembly Bill 2072.

The proposal's intent, he said, is to create a 13-person panel to develop an informational brochure to be given to every deaf newborn's parents.

Right now, Mendoza said, the distribution of information is "very haphazard."

Parents have complained to him, he said, that they were not briefed on various options to try to help their child develop speech during the critical years up to age 5.

The brochure would explain a range of options, Mendoza said, including "cochlear implants," high-tech devices surgically implanted and also worn outside the ear that allow the brain, with training, to hear degrees of sound.

Mendoza said that he realizes that his bill has touched a raw nerve within the deaf culture - a community that rejects deafness as a defect, and embraces American Sign Language as a full language best learned starting at infancy.

"There is no cure for deafness. Accept that, please," said Sheri Farinha, chief executive officer of NorCal Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing.

Farinha and others say that deaf groups were not consulted during the bill's drafting. And they're upset that the 13-member panel includes only two specific spots for deaf people.

Mendoza said that he's reached out to activists, but he feels "they've chosen not to be at the table."

Farinha and activists with the California Association of the Deaf, which also opposes the bill, said they're suspicious that the bill's real aim is to promote implants.

They object to the inclusion of medical specialists on the panel who they suspect will promote the devices heavily.

They point to a private foundation's brochure for parents of newborns that was considered a possible model for California's own pamphlet.

It features implants prominently and includes only three sentences on sign language.

The emphasis on the importance of trying to get children to hear - by implanting devices - the activists say, is for them an echo of a bitter past.

They're reminded, they say, of a time when followers of eugenics - a belief that some races are inferior - advocated against the disabled having children.

Implant manufacturers "exploit grieving parents," Farinha also said, as she spoke through an interpreter.

She thinks implants offer parents "false hope" that their children will hear and speak fluent English and won't need sign language.

She knows frustrated teens, she said, who want to learn sign language late because implants didn't help them communicate as well as they thought.

Licia King, a supporter of Mendoza's bill, has a different story.

The Orangevale parent of 6-year-old deaf twin girls said it was a family friend - not health professionals - who first told her about implants.

She said the twins each had their first implant done at age 1, and last year, after years of training in a special school, they exceeded state academic standards in a regular kindergarten.

"It is a miracle," King said. She said that, so far, the girls are very verbal, and one of them is interested in music.

King said she appreciates the concerns of deaf activists who want to protect sign language, but she believes parents have a right to a choice.

"I would have been one very angry, angry, angry parent,"she said, "had I found this out too late."

Mendoza said he's trying to work on amendments to the bill to reach consensus before it goes to the Senate floor for a vote. The Assembly has approved it.
 
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"There is no cure for deafness. Accept that, please," said Sheri Farinha, chief executive officer of NorCal Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing.

WTF !!!!!!!!! of course there is a cure for deafness. what planet does Farinha live on? her views are stone age. CI works and if a parent ignores the possibility that their child could hear then that is irresponsible. sign language can be learned at any age. the window that allows a CI and speech development is narrow - up to the 4th year or so. i am not a big fan of CI myself but this is making the deaf community look stupid
 
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"There is no cure for deafness. Accept that, please," said Sheri Farinha, chief executive officer of NorCal Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing.

WTF !!!!!!!!! of course there is a cure for deafness. what planet does Farinha live on? her views are stone age. CI works and if a parent ignores the possibility that their child could hear then that is irresponsible. sign language can be learned at any age. the window that allows a CI and speech development is narrow - up to the 4th year or so. i am not a big fan of CI myself but this is making the deaf community look stupid

A CI is not a cure for deafness. It is an aid to help the person hear, but if they remove it for whatever reason, they are still deaf. A cure would mean, something to fix or correct without having aids or devices.

Take the person who has a pacemaker. He is still listed as a heart patient. Not cured.

The person with an artificial limb, is not cured.

Eyeglasses do not cure vision loss, but they do aid.
 
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"There is no cure for deafness. Accept that, please," said Sheri Farinha, chief executive officer of NorCal Services for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing.

WTF !!!!!!!!! of course there is a cure for deafness. what planet does Farinha live on? her views are stone age. CI works and if a parent ignores the possibility that their child could hear then that is irresponsible. sign language can be learned at any age. the window that allows a CI and speech development is narrow - up to the 4th year or so. i am not a big fan of CI myself but this is making the deaf community look stupid

See above posts. I respect your passion, and many of us feel the same way. But as you are finding out, educating ourselves is a never-ending process. I am still learning, myself.
 
it is not about a cure. it is about hearing and being raised as a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF. dependency on sign language should precede aural and oral development. sounds too much like that movie- forget the name- where the deaf parents kinda forced their deaf daughter to turn down a Ci implant which she did so she would not upset her parents even though she very much wanted to hear.
 
I get that - but you did say there wa a cure for deafness. As far as I know and as far as the research I have seen, there still is not a cure for deafness. They are still exploring the possibilities of stem cells, but, I don't think anything positive has come up. I may be wrong, since it won't help me, but I haven't heard of anything further.
 
it is not about a cure. it is about hearing and being raised as a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF. dependency on sign language should precede aural and oral development. sounds too much like that movie- forget the name- where the deaf parents kinda forced their deaf daughter to turn down a Ci implant which she did so she would not upset her parents even though she very much wanted to hear.


Did you say a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF? You have to understand there will never be a perfect hearing. It is not a miracle. Like others said, that CI is just a tool like the hearing aids. It does not make them hear perfect, and yet they are having problems trying to understand hearing people. Yes, we do depend on ASL very much, because it is easier to understand with visual sign language better than lipreading. As for speech it is not always perfect either.

The movie that you are talking about is not her parents forcing their deaf daughter to turn down the CI implant for her son. She had found out that she was once a hearing person before she lose her hearing earlier. At first she was mad at her parents for not telling her that she was hearing. But after she had thought about it. She had come to decision that she would like her son to make the decision if he want to have CI without forcing on him to get CI. He is not a baby, but a big kid. Get it? That is why most of the Deaf activists want to have the child old enough to make the decision to have CI. Not babies or toddlers. Beside the babies or toddlers can not voice to say whether they want to hear or be deaf. This is the decision only on the child, not the parents. The only choice is to use the hearing aid until the child is old enough to make the decision if they want to have CI or not. :cool2:
 
it is not about a cure. it is about hearing and being raised as a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF. dependency on sign language should precede aural and oral development. sounds too much like that movie- forget the name- where the deaf parents kinda forced their deaf daughter to turn down a Ci implant which she did so she would not upset her parents even though she very much wanted to hear.

Or would you rather put deaf children at risks for language delays for the sake of aural and oral development?
 
it is not about a cure. it is about hearing and being raised as a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF. dependency on sign language should precede aural and oral development. sounds too much like that movie- forget the name- where the deaf parents kinda forced their deaf daughter to turn down a Ci implant which she did so she would not upset her parents even though she very much wanted to hear.
May I ask why you have such strong views about this issue? You already said in another thread you were born hearing...?
 
I just LOVE (sarcasm) how any discourse in this area makes it sound like the entire Deaf community is anti CI. There IS anti CI sentiment, but I think it's heading towards anti HA sentiment.
 
I just LOVE (sarcasm) how any discourse in this area makes it sound like the entire Deaf community is anti CI. There IS anti CI sentiment, but I think it's heading towards anti HA sentiment.

Yes DD, I am anti CI and anti HA!! :giggle: Not in this lifetime, but I do see where that is coming into play at times.
 
Did you say a hearing child as opposed to being raised DEAF? You have to understand there will never be a perfect hearing. It is not a miracle. Like others said, that CI is just a tool like the hearing aids. It does not make them hear perfect, and yet they are having problems trying to understand hearing people. Yes, we do depend on ASL very much, because it is easier to understand with visual sign language better than lipreading. As for speech it is not always perfect either.

The movie that you are talking about is not her parents forcing their deaf daughter to turn down the CI implant for her son. She had found out that she was once a hearing person before she lose her hearing earlier. At first she was mad at her parents for not telling her that she was hearing. But after she had thought about it. She had come to decision that she would like her son to make the decision if he want to have CI without forcing on him to get CI. He is not a baby, but a big kid. Get it? That is why most of the Deaf activists want to have the child old enough to make the decision to have CI. Not babies or toddlers. Beside the babies or toddlers can not voice to say whether they want to hear or be deaf. This is the decision only on the child, not the parents. The only choice is to use the hearing aid until the child is old enough to make the decision if they want to have CI or not. :cool2:

I think you guys are talking about different movies. DDU is talking about "Sound and Fury" and Bebonang is talking about "Love is never Silent" (I think)
 
There's no cure for deafness. And being raised as a hearing child in a deaf world is just too hard. I've been there and done that.
 
There's no cure for deafness. And being raised as a hearing child in a deaf world is just too hard. I've been there and done that.

You were hearing before? :confused:
 
You were hearing before? :confused:

Maybe she's saying that she was raised as a hearing person despite her deafness because the majority of people are haring? I think she may have meant that. Sometimes I say things like that (unrelated to this topic) that left people wondering what I meant.
 
AB2072 is being voted on at this moment. I am following it on twitter.
 
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