Congress looks at doing away with the $1 bill

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WASHINGTON (AP) — American consumers have shown about as much appetite for the $1 coin as kids do their spinach. They may not know what's best for them either. Congressional auditors say doing away with dollar bills entirely and replacing them with dollar coins could save taxpayers some $4.4 billion over the next 30 years.

Vending machine operators have long championed the use of $1 coins because they don't jam the machines, cutting down on repair costs and lost sales. But most people don't seem to like carrying them. In the past five years, the U.S. Mint has produced 2.4 billion Presidential $1 coins. Most are stored by the Federal Reserve, and production was suspended about a year ago.

The latest projection from the Government Accountability Office on the potential savings from switching to dollar coins entirely comes as lawmakers begin exploring new ways for the government to save money by changing the money itself.

The Mint is preparing a report for Congress showing how changes in the metal content of coins could save money.

The last time the government made major metallurgical changes in U.S. coins was nearly 50 years ago when Congress directed the Mint to remove silver from dimes and quarters and to reduce its content in half dollar coins. Now, Congress is looking at new changes in response to rising prices for copper and nickel.

At a House subcommittee hearing Thursday, the focus was on two approaches:

—Moving to less expensive combinations of metals like steel, aluminum and zinc.

—Gradually taking dollar bills out the economy and replacing them with coins.

The GAO's Lorelei St. James told the House Financial Services panel it would take several years for the benefits of switching from paper bills to dollar coins to catch up with the cost of making the change. Equipment would have to be bought or overhauled and more coins would have to be produced upfront to replace bills as they are taken out of circulation.

But over the years, the savings would begin to accrue, she said, largely because a $1 coin could stay in circulation for 30 years while paper bills have to be replaced every four or five years on average.

"We continue to believe that replacing the note with a coin is likely to provide a financial benefit to the government," said St. James, who added that such a change would work only if the note was completely eliminated and the public educated about the benefits of the switch.

Even the $1 coin's most ardent supporters recognize that they haven't been popular. Philip Diehl, former director of the Mint, said there was a huge demand for the Sacagawea dollar coin when production began in 2001, but as time wore on, people stayed with what they knew best.

"We've never bitten the bullet to remove the $1 bill as every other Western economy has done," Diehl said. "If you did, it would have the same success the Canadians have had."

Beverly Lepine, chief operating officer of the Royal Canadian Mint, said her country loves its "Loonie," the nickname for the $1 coin that includes an image of a loon on the back. The switch went over so well that the country also went to a $2 coin called the "Toonie."

Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., affirmed that Canadians have embraced their dollar coins. "I don't know anyone who would go back to the $1 and $2 bills," he said.

That sentiment was not shared by some of his fellow subcommittee members when it comes to the U.S. version.

Rep. Lacy Clay, D-Mo., said men don't like carrying a bunch of coins around in their pocket or in their suits. And Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., said the $1 coins have proved too hard to distinguish from quarters.

"If the people don't want it and they don't want to use it," she said, "why in the world are we even talking about changing it?"

"It's really a matter of just getting used to it," said Diehl, the former Mint director.

Several lawmakers were more intrigued with the idea of using different metal combinations in producing coins.

Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio, said a penny costs more than 2 cents to make and a nickel costs more than 11 cents to make. Moving to multiplated steel for coins would save the government nearly $200 million a year, he said.

The Mint's report, which is due in mid-December, will detail the results of nearly 18 months of work exploring a variety of new metal compositions and evaluating test coins for attributes as hardness, resistance to wear, availability of raw materials and costs.

Richard Peterson, the Mint's acting director, declined to give lawmakers a summary of what will be in the report, but he said "several promising alternatives" were found.

Congress looks at doing away with the $1 bill - Yahoo! News
 
As mentioned in the article, we (Canada) did away with the dollar bill years ago (we have a one dollar coin and two dollar coin) and are now in the process of doing away with the penny. It took a little getting used to and it adds some weight to your pocket or purse but, overall, I think it was a good move.
 
Not going to happen in mass production. Limited yeah, and paper dollar will always be there.
 
Not going to happen in mass production. Limited yeah, and paper dollar will always be there.

That's what we all thought when the conversion was first talked about ... I'm sure Europe and Japan thought the same thing. ;-)
 
I would welcome more money being coins rather than paper.
Although I rarely deal with money these days -- I can go a couple weeks before I have to touch my real money because everything can be paid for with card.
 
We have coins in circulation that have lasted 30-40 years. One dollar bills rarely last a year before they have to be replaced. They're talking about replacing the currency most heavily used with something more durable. Seems like a smart idea.

I think they should make the coin a little bigger and more easily identifiable. It looks, in size, too much like a quarter coin. It's smaller than a Half-Dollar! It doesn't need to be as big as a Half-Dollar, but should be bigger than a quarter, I think.
 
I would welcome more money being coins rather than paper.
Although I rarely deal with money these days -- I can go a couple weeks before I have to touch my real money because everything can be paid for with card.

I don't handle money much anymore either. I use credit cards and pay off the balance each billing period. I use cash in places where there's not likely to be card readers.

Although... given the rash of news about compromised card readers, i have thought about going back to cash for a while. But I should probably just get a second card, and switch between them if one gets compromised.
 
Canada did that about ten years ago, now they quit doing it.

Really, the problem with coins is that it gets heavier and it can damage pocket where paper bills fits nicely in wallet and don't do pocket damages.

Im pretty much cashless anyway. I can even cash paper checks right in my living room without going out at all.

That's what we all thought when the conversion was first talked about ... I'm sure Europe and Japan thought the same thing. ;-)
 
It seems like they could solve lots of problems by making the coins smaller or thinner or in some other way lighter. That way we could still carry them without weighing ourselves down too much, but still have something that would last longer than paper. I know I want to keep carrying something worth a dollar (in decent quantities) for giving tips and things like that, but I wear out easily and that little bit of weight makes a difference.
 
It seems like they could solve lots of problems by making the coins smaller or thinner or in some other way lighter. That way we could still carry them without weighing ourselves down too much, but still have something that would last longer than paper. I know I want to keep carrying something worth a dollar (in decent quantities) for giving tips and things like that, but I wear out easily and that little bit of weight makes a difference.

They should be able to use new alloys that are lighter. They're doing that to the one cent coin. It's lighter than it used to be. Same size though.
 
Haven't change subject... mint more dollar coins. I didn't realize until recently that they stopped doing them. I have several canada dollar coins downstairs.

Maybe a result of an increasingly cashless society, and realizing the coins last so long, they don't need to keep making them for now.
 
Nope, blind people will not be happy. I remember back then a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin, it last only couple years. Blind people couldn't tell the difference, and even normal people, and even some machines almost couldn't tell difference between Susan dollar coin and quarters.

It seems like they could solve lots of problems by making the coins smaller or thinner or in some other way lighter. That way we could still carry them without weighing ourselves down too much, but still have something that would last longer than paper. I know I want to keep carrying something worth a dollar (in decent quantities) for giving tips and things like that, but I wear out easily and that little bit of weight makes a difference.
 
In Canada there have been virtually no dollar bills in circulation for many years now. The change over from bill to coin began in 1987. Presently they are minting and circulating a lighter $1 and $2 coin and are also changing the remaining paper money over to polymer bills.
 
Nope, blind people will not be happy. I remember back then a Susan B. Anthony dollar coin, it last only couple years. Blind people couldn't tell the difference, and even normal people, and even some machines almost couldn't tell difference between Susan dollar coin and quarters.

It's not hard to design coins to be blind-friendly.
 
There are a minimum of 3 hidden stories to be read in plain sight in this article. I'm going to wait and see if anyone gets them by tomorrow night.
 
Not going to happen in mass production. Limited yeah, and paper dollar will always be there.

not really. wouldn't be surprised if $1 bill is gone and replaced by $1 coin.
 
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