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President Barack Obama: “Our collective failure to meet this challenge – year after year, decade after decade – has led us to the breaking point.”
Common Sense Question: If we are at the “breaking point,” then why doesn’t your government-run insurance plan start until 2013?

President Barack Obama: “There are now 30 million American citizens who cannot get coverage.”
Common Sense Question: On August 20, you said 46 million Americans were uninsured. What happened to 16 million Americans?

President Barack Obama: “And every day, 14,000 Americans lose their coverage.”
Common Sense Question: Does that mean 15 million Americans will lose their health care before your government plan starts in 2013?

President Barack Obama: “We spend one and a half times more per person on health care than any other country, but we aren’t any healthier for it.”
Common Sense Question: Then why do people travel from around the world to receive health care in the United States?

President Barack Obama: “Put simply, our health care problem is our deficit problem. Nothing else even comes close.”
Common Sense Question: Didn’t the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office say that the health care plan you have endorsed will add $239 billion to our annual deficits over the next ten years?

President Barack Obama: “Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.”
Common Sense Question: If we can pay for “most” of health care reform by controlling waste and inefficiency, then why does a $900 billion health care plan include $820 billion in tax increases?

President Barack Obama: “…no federal dollars will be used to fund abortion.”
Common Sense Question: Do you object to House Democrats defeating an amendment in the House Energy and Commerce Committee markup that would have explicitly prohibited federal funding of abortion under a government-run health care plan?

President Barack Obama: “I will not sign a plan that adds one dime to our deficits – either now or in the future.”
Common Sense Question: Do you oppose the House Democrat health care plan, H.R. 3200, which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office said will add $239 billion to our annual deficits over the next ten years and “would probably generate substantial increases in federal budget deficits” thereafter? If so, which Democrat plan are you going to support?

President Barack Obama: “Reducing the waste and inefficiency in Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan…the plan I’m proposing will cost around $900 billion over the next 10 years…”
Common Sense Question: If there is so much “waste and inefficiency” in Medicare and Medicaid – two government-run health care plans – then won’t further government involvement in health care lead to further “waste and inefficiency”?

President Barack Obama: “And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead. If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen.”
Common Sense Question: Will you agree to meet with House Republican leaders to discuss health care reform, as they requested almost four months ago?
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There are more at: Common-Sense Questions That Follow the President’s Speech - GOP.gov


Seems like he likes to fib alot...a hyperbole here...a hyperbole there...fib fib..
 
As a candidate, President Obama "declared that everyone deserves access to reproductive health care that includes abortion, and vowed that this 'right' would be at the heart of his health care reform plan if elected president."



John Boehner on Thursday, September 10th, 2009 in a statement from the Minority Leader's office

Boehner says abortion access was always a key goal for Obama health plan



"We find Boehner's claim to be TRUE"

PolitiFact | Boehner says abortion access was always a key goal for Obama health plan
 
If you look at Obama's history he has ALWAYS favored abortion,even partial abortion when the baby survives the procedure but get killed off anyways.

Huck: Obama 'most pro-abortion' pres. - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

You can bet this HR 3200 bill will have loopholes and such to favor abortionists and the continued funding. Just as he favors giving illegal aliens health care coverage under the same bill but will do a jig and dance once illegal aliens are made legal immigrants almost overnight.
 
$908,603,538,825 is the estimated cost on war. May I ask where we get that money?
 
Payment on interest is around $260 billion dollars annually but that will keep going up every year.

That's the ill-fated logic here. You do not use credit cards to help solve a serious debt problem. But Obama thinks it's appropriate to quadruple the spending amount to help address the debt problem.

He needs remedial math intervention.....quickly!
 
netrox said:
$908,603,538,825 is the estimated cost on war. May I ask where we get that money?
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7 years it amounted to almost a trillion dollars.

In 6 months Obama already has a running deficit of about $2 trillion dollars already. At that rate then by then end of 7 years the running deficit (not adding in the current total cumulative deficit) would be $28 trillion dollars....enough for 28 wars.

Again, where will the money come from to pay for alll the expanding govt programs and bigger govt when we only get about $2.3 trillion dollars in tax revenues to start with?

You do not expand and add more stuff when money is dwindling and interest owed keeps climbing. You don't have to be an accountant to see a problem with that.
 
kokonut said:
7 years it amounted to almost a trillion dollars.

In 6 months Obama already has a running deficit of about $2 trillion dollars already. At that rate then by then end of 7 years the running deficit (not adding in the current total cumulative deficit) would be $28 trillion dollars....enough for 28 wars.

Again, where will the money come from to pay for alll the expanding govt programs and bigger govt when we only get about $2.3 trillion dollars in tax revenues to start with?

You do not expand and add more stuff when money is dwindling and interest owed keeps climbing. You don't have to be an accountant to see a problem with that.
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The problem here is not so much what he is doing, but the government thinks they can keep the whole system intact while adding onto it.

In order to add something, you have to slash something else. Fairly simple-- and this have been done before in order to make room for healthcare without running a deficit.
 
That's about $140 billion dollars a year for our war which is about 7% of our tax revenues each year....off hand. Not much.

In terms of GDP, it was between 12 to 14 trillion dollars (over the 7 years since 2008 is 14.3 trillion) which means the war each year account for about 1% of the GDP.
 
kokonut said:
That's about $140 billion dollars a year for our war which is about 7% of our tax revenues each year....off hand. Not much.

In terms of GDP, it was between 12 to 14 trillion dollars (over the 7 years since 2008 is 14.3 trillion) which means the war each year account for about 1% of the GDP.
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So other than pulling out of Iraq, how you propose the States start paying for its debts?
 
souggy said:
So other than pulling out of Iraq, how you propose the States start paying for its debts?
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They are not just pulling them out of Iraq. Many are being transferred to Afghanistan.


:hmm:
 
Babyblue said:
They are not just pulling them out of Iraq. Many are being transferred to Afghanistan.


:hmm:
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What a bloody blunder! We weren't wrong to go in, but we can't stay there any longer-- however we made the mess of creating an extremely unstable government, so we owe it to them to fix it! On the other hand, it's not fair to the taxpayers to stay there any longer.

I am so mixed on the issue on Afghanistan.
 
Well.. so is my brother. He is in the service.. In Iraq.

When he goes back.. Guess where he is going..???
 
Babyblue said:
Well.. so is my brother. He is in the service.. In Iraq.

When he goes back.. Guess where he is going..???
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I have families who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, one did three tours already. One got killed in Kuwait. One is currently in Afghanistan.

And you point is....??
 
kokonut said:
I have families who have served in Iraq and Afghanistan, one did three tours already. One got killed in Kuwait. One is currently in Afghanistan.

And you point is....??
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killed in kuwait? how? automobile accident?
 
souggy said:
She is saying that her brother got mixed feelings about the whole war in Afghanistan.
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very understandable. 2 things that everybody (both civilians and soldiers) don't like - prolonged war and IEDs
 
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