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The Liberals say they will try to trigger the defeat of Stephen Harper's minority Conservative government at the earliest possible date this fall, delivering a message to the prime minister: "Your time is up."

In a campaign-style address to supporters in Sudbury, Ont., where his caucus is meeting, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff said Tuesday that Harper has failed to meet the four conditions the Liberals set out for him in June to remain in power.

"You’ve failed to protect the most vulnerable, you’ve failed to create jobs, you’ve failed to defend our health care, you’ve failed to restore our public finances," Ignatieff said.

"We cannot support this government any further. After four years of drift, four years of denial, four years of division, four years of discord, Mr. Harper, your time is up."

A Liberal government, Ignatieff pledged, would return "competence and compassion" to the federal government to replace an "incompetent" Harper government that "doesn't care."

"The secret weapon on our side is Stephen Harper's record," he said. "We can do better."

Vote could come Oct. 1, or sooner
Ignatieff also hit out at Harper for not seeing the recession coming and predicting during the last election that the government wouldn't run a deficit, while also failing to stand up for Canada and Canadians abroad.

"You can't count on a government that can't count," he said.

Ignatieff pledged a Liberal government would deliver on its "vision for rebuilding the Canadian economy," including expanding trade with huge, emerging markets in China and India.

The Conservatives, he charged, have sat back and done nothing all summer as Canada's health-care system is dragged through the mud in the United States.

"The Liberals are fiercely proud of our health-care system and, unlike the Conservatives, we are not afraid to defend it," he said.

Parliament resumes Sept. 14, and the Liberals will have their first opportunity to present a no-confidence motion on Oct. 1. Speaking after Ignatieff, Liberal MP Bob Rae said the party will present the motion "at the first available opportunity."

There is a chance a vote could come even sooner. The Conservatives could introduce a ways-and-means motion to implement some aspects of last January's budget, including the popular home renovation tax credit, as soon as Parliament resumes Sept. 14.

With Ignatieff's pledge, it now falls to the Conservatives to reach out to the two other opposition parties to prevent the government from falling.

NDP may offer olive branch to Tories
The NDP, which has voted against the government at every opportunity thus far, is now suggesting it may prop up Harper if he's willing to work with them. New Democrat MP Thomas Mulcair said the last thing Canadians want is another election.

"If Mr. Harper goes about being provocative as he has been in the past, going after key things that Canadians hold dearly like women's rights and the environment, then we'll throw him out of office because he'll have provoked it," Mulcair said.

"If, on the other hand, Stephen Harper comes into Parliament with a willingness to work in the public interest, then we're going to take it on a case-by-case basis. Our caucus will decide."

Mulcair said the Conservatives would have to offer pension protection, enhance employment insurance, protect against exorbitant credit card fees and halt the foreign takeover of Nortel to get NDP support.

"If Mr. Harper likes to pick up some of our themes, then perhaps Canadians could be spared their fourth general election in five years."

The Bloc Québécois, which has also voted against Harper's Tories in the past, has yet to comment on the latest Liberal sabre-rattling.

Harper says Canadians don't want an election
Speaking in Calgary, Harper said he hadn't met a single Canadian over the summer who wanted another election less than a year since the last vote.

"I think Canadians have been pretty clear — they want Parliament to focus on the economy," the prime minister told reporters as Ignatieff was still delivering his speech.

"It's certainly our view and I think the view of the vast majority of Canadians that going through more political games, more political instability, does not serve the country's interests right now. So we are planning to address the economy and that will be our focus."

Transport and Infrastructure Minister John Baird also criticized Ignatieff for wanting to plunge Canada into its fourth election in five years.

"Mr. Ignatieff is just asking for an election for reasons of political opportunism," Baird told reporters. "That's his only motivation. He's thinking of his own interests and not the interests of Canadians and that certainly is not good for Canada."

On Monday, Baird said Canada's economy is too fragile for a snap election and opposition parties would be "irresponsible" to trigger one just as the economy shows signs of rebounding.

Party ready for election: Ignatieff
Ignatieff insisted his party is ready for a fall election because it has broadened its membership, brought in new ideas and revamped its fundraising campaign.

"We are more united than we have been for a generation," he said.

Last November's federal election handed the Liberals, then led by Stéphane Dion, the worst result in terms of popular vote in more than 100 years.

The tumultuous months following the vote saw the Conservatives infuriate opposition parties with a controversial economic update that prompted a failed attempt by Dion and the Liberals to form a coalition with the NDP, with the support of the Bloc, to oust the Tories from power.

In December, Harper persuaded Gov. Gen. Michaëlle Jean to prorogue Parliament to stave off a no-confidence vote and the demise of his minority government.

Dion resigned as Liberal leader shortly afterward, paving the way for Ignatieff to be named his successor and agree to support the Harper government's January budget, which outlined five years of deficits and billions of dollars for stimulus spending to boost the slumping economy.

Liberals push for fall election

I consider myself a person with Liberal views, but I am a supporter of the Conservatives because I can't stand the idiots running the Liberal party. How dare they blame the Cons for dealing with the recession negatively and then call for an election! The election will not be of help to the recession either as they are wasting millions of dollars more of Canadian tax dollars. And they think they will do better than the Conservatives? Please.

Do they think that Canadians' lives revolve around voting these clowns in? Do they respect the fact that people have more important things to do than vote every year because these idiots can't get their acts straight? Canadians do not want to go to the polls. We thought last year's election had a very low turnout. Brace yourselves to see this year's lower turnout!

As for Ignatieff, all I've heard from him is whining about the Conservatives and Harper. Has he discussed what he plans to do differently from the Conservatives? No, I don't think so. He's just as big of a schmuck as the rest of them. Ignatieff will not stand a chance in an election. He's just a rich guy interested in adding another chapter to his memoirs. He would do no better than Harper in office. I think that the Conservatives are the most stable party in Parliament right now. The Liberals, NDP and the Bloc all tried to gang up against the Conservatives and nothing came out of it. When the Liberals joined up with commies and seperatists, they lost all my respect. Until I see a fresh start in the party, I do not plan to support them or their policies.
 
I don't know much about Canadian politics but I do agree that it's ridiculous to blame conservatives for the economic demise - it's a global problem, not an isolated problem.

I don't think it's right for Liberals to demand early election - they KNOW that timing is everything. If the economy is improving by the norm time, they would stand to lose a lot.

Politics are weird.
 
I don't know much about Canadian politics but I do agree that it's ridiculous to blame conservatives for the economic demise - it's a global problem, not an isolated problem.

I don't think it's right for Liberals to demand early election - they KNOW that timing is everything. If the economy is improving by the norm time, they would stand to lose a lot.

Politics are weird.

:gpost: I think you are not giving yourself enough credit... it seems like you know what you are talking about!! :)
 
I voted for the Conservatives, only because I didn't like the NDP's or Liberals' platforms at the time. My feeling still haven't changed regarding this. Honestly, for five years now-- the Conservatives are the only reasonable ones that actually have a game-plan in place without jerking around taxpayers' dollars.

I would have higher respect for the Liberals if they didn't sleep in the same bed as the NDP or the Bloc. Really, the Conservatives is the most stable party we have right now, and if the Liberals want to re-gain respect (and power)-- they need to do some major house cleaning and purge the corrupted politicians from their party. Ignatieff is one of them.

If the Liberals want to get back in power, I want to see their long-term goals. No more short-term promises. No more buckling for power. At least the Conservatives have a long-term plan in place.

Calling for another election is bull.
 
The conservatives will win, the Liberals are just plainly dumb enough to think they may get lucky this time.
 
The Canadian economy is just coming out of recession. Our conservative government has done a job well in keeping our economy from getting in worse shape. They have been tougher on crime. Our defense has been improved significantly by being heavily modernized. I am real happy the way the Harper government is performing.

Harper will have my vote again.
 
I voted for the Conservatives, only because I didn't like the NDP's or Liberals' platforms at the time. My feeling still haven't changed regarding this. Honestly, for five years now-- the Conservatives are the only reasonable ones that actually have a game-plan in place without jerking around taxpayers' dollars.

I would have higher respect for the Liberals if they didn't sleep in the same bed as the NDP or the Bloc. Really, the Conservatives is the most stable party we have right now, and if the Liberals want to re-gain respect (and power)-- they need to do some major house cleaning and purge the corrupted politicians from their party. Ignatieff is one of them.

If the Liberals want to get back in power, I want to see their long-term goals. No more short-term promises. No more buckling for power. At least the Conservatives have a long-term plan in place.

Calling for another election is bull.

:gpost: :gpost: :gpost:! (I am using this emoticon a lot lately... can you tell I'm passionate about this topic? :lol:)

That is exactly what I was thinking!
 
The Canadian economy is just coming out of recession. Our conservative government has done a job well in keeping our economy from getting in worse shape. They have been tougher on crime. Our defense has been improved significantly by being heavily modernized. I am real happy the way the Harper government is performing.

Harper will have my vote again.

Another :gpost:! :)
 
Liberals push for fall election

I consider myself a person with Liberal views, but I am a supporter of the Conservatives because I can't stand the idiots running the Liberal party. How dare they blame the Cons for dealing with the recession negatively and then call for an election! The election will not be of help to the recession either as they are wasting millions of dollars more of Canadian tax dollars. And they think they will do better than the Conservatives? Please.

Do they think that Canadians' lives revolve around voting these clowns in? Do they respect the fact that people have more important things to do than vote every year because these idiots can't get their acts straight? Canadians do not want to go to the polls. We thought last year's election had a very low turnout. Brace yourselves to see this year's lower turnout!

As for Ignatieff, all I've heard from him is whining about the Conservatives and Harper. Has he discussed what he plans to do differently from the Conservatives? No, I don't think so. He's just as big of a schmuck as the rest of them. Ignatieff will not stand a chance in an election. He's just a rich guy interested in adding another chapter to his memoirs. He would do no better than Harper in office. I think that the Conservatives are the most stable party in Parliament right now. The Liberals, NDP and the Bloc all tried to gang up against the Conservatives and nothing came out of it. When the Liberals joined up with commies and seperatists, they lost all my respect. Until I see a fresh start in the party, I do not plan to support them or their policies.

Iggy is nothing but an American wannabe. Know what he missed most about Canada? Algonquin Park! WTF! There are many things which are more important, cherish-able and memorable than that big park!

Also, Iggy said he would raised GST last year! I bet that the tories will run a campaign ad at this time to warn the voters.

KNow where Iggy had been in last 35 years? In America!
 
I think it was time for the Canadians to elect a majority conservative government. I have been growing tired of back to back minority governments.
 
Iggy can go to hell for all I care.
 
Not surprised, I have little know about government system in Canada, seems very different from US.

Royale, what's difference on between US and Canada government? Just wonders.
 
Not surprised, I have little know about government system in Canada, seems very different from US.

Royale, what's difference on between US and Canada government? Just wonders.

There are too many differences in Canadian and American politics to list under one post.
 
There are too many differences in Canadian and American politics to list under one post.

So I gathered from my research on Canadian politics which is incomplete. I understand that it is a Consititutional Monarchy with a strong democratic tradition and that you guys have a Parliament. The voters in Canada only vote for their local MP. The party leader is chosen as a candidate for PM.. I'm a little confused here as this seems a bit redundant. I assume this is for PM of Canada or is this wrong? Correct me if I'm wrong. The PM is normally chosen by the party with the largest number of seats in the house of Commons. The PM is appointed by the Governor General. I haven't even gotten started on this.

Well one thing for sure, you guys don't have to put up with all the mudslinging and the bitterness of conservatives and the liberals during the election cycle that we have to put up in the States. Can I move up here and join you guys? :lol:
 
Not surprised, I have little know about government system in Canada, seems very different from US.

Royale, what's difference on between US and Canada government? Just wonders.

We use parliamentary democracy which is similar to UK while your country is using a federal republic system.
 
So I gathered from my research on Canadian politics which is incomplete. I understand that it is a Consititutional Monarchy with a strong democratic tradition and that you guys have a Parliament. The voters in Canada only vote for their local MP. The party leader is chosen as a candidate for PM.. I'm a little confused here as this seems a bit redundant. I assume this is for PM of Canada or is this wrong? Correct me if I'm wrong. The PM is normally chosen by the party with the largest number of seats in the house of Commons. The PM is appointed by the Governor General. I haven't even gotten started on this.

Well one thing for sure, you guys don't have to put up with all the mudslinging and the bitterness of conservatives and the liberals during the election cycle that we have to put up in the States. Can I move up here and join you guys? :lol:

The national party leader is selected by delegates at the national party convention or national executive committee before the election takes part. The party with capturing most seats or MPs in federal election, forms or retains a government and their leader becomes Prime Minister. Another party with finishing in second place in the election become the official Opposition.

The number of seats, not votes matter the most.
 
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