Canada's health care collapsing...not sustainable says doctors

Liebling:-))) said:
No, I can´t afford it.
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oh? curious - now that you're covered by German's nationalized healthcare... you have to wait for months and months (or sometimes years) to see a doctor/specialist, right?

and another question - the amount you pay for German's nationalized healthcare.... is it nearly same amount as the cost of private insurance?
 
Jiro said:
oh? curious - now that you're covered by German's nationalized healthcare...
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German healthcare system is mandatory in Germany.

Germany´s universal health care system was first introduced by Otto von Bismarck in 1883.

you have to wait for months and months (or sometimes years) to see a doctor/specialist, right?
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No, I can go to see specialist to make an appointment for next day or 2 days. I can go to see doctor immediately without make an appointment... and waiting time is up to 30 minutes. I don´t have any experience as put me in waiting list in Germany like what I did once in UK.




and another question - the amount you pay for German's nationalized healthcare.... is it nearly same amount as the cost of private insurance?
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No, I choose any healthcare company, I like to and pay the amount to follow % of my monthly gross wage.

We do have private insurance here in Germany which is different as I pay social insurances to follow % of my gross wage.

Private insurance is likely household insurance... Example: You want to have gold dental crown, teeth dental implant or any laser... something "luxury..." where the cost of healthcare system is not cover. It´s up to the people if they want something luxury like gold crown.... dental implant, etc. It´s good for the people who can afford to pay extra health insurance for luxury.

A person who earn over €4,000 gross wage per month then they can look for private insurance if he/she don´t want public healthcare system but if they decided for private healthcare then they still have to follow % of their monthly gross wage. Most prefer to insure public healthcare system over private healthcare system.


I would never afford to pay private healthcare if I live in the USA. It´s very expensive.
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Liebling:-))) said:
German healthcare system is mandatory in Germany.

Germany´s universal health care system was first introduced by Otto von Bismarck in 1883.

No, I can go to see specialist to make an appointment for next day or 2 days. I can go to see doctor immediately without make an appointment... and waiting time is up to 30 minutes. I don´t have any experience as put me in waiting list in Germany like what I did once in UK.

No, I choose any healthcare company, I like to and pay the amount to follow % of my monthly gross wage.

We do have private insurance here in Germany which is different as I pay social insurances to follow % of my gross wage.

Private insurance is likely household insurance... Example: You want to have gold dental crown, teeth dental implant or any laser... something "luxury..." where the cost of healthcare system is not cover. It´s up to the people if they want something luxury like gold crown.... dental implant, etc. It´s good for the people who can afford to pay extra health insurance for luxury.

A person who earn over €4,000 gross wage per month then they can look for private insurance if he/she don´t want public healthcare system but if they decided for private healthcare then they still have to follow % of their monthly gross wage. Most prefer to insure public healthcare system over private healthcare system.

I would never afford to pay private healthcare if I live in the USA. It´s very expensive.
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:ty: for answering my questions. about your last statement - I find it puzzling to why would you say that. You can not even afford a private insurance in your own country. I don't even make €4,000 gross wage per month (about $5,700 a month) and yet I have a private insurance.

1. it is a misconception that majority of Americans cannot afford health insurance
2. it is a misconception that majority of Americans are not insured
3. it is a misconception that if every Americans are insured - it does not mean their health insurances will pay for most procedures - just like German's nationalized healthcare
4. it is a fact that only 15% of Americans are not insured (but that does not mean they cannot afford it. one of the reasons is because they CHOOSE not to have private insurance)

I do not want everybody to be insured by law (as proposed by Obama) because it's not a guarantee that health insurance will pay for most procedures and it is not cost-effective. I only want medical cost to be AFFORDABLE. That's the big difference. If medical cost is affordable, then people do not need to get health insurance until later.

A healthy young person does not necessarily need health insurance but a healthy young person should never worry about outrageously high medical cost for a broken bone or serious injury. It should be affordable for a healthy young person to get a routine check-up.

You have to understand that medical cost is very high right now because many Americans are sue-sue-sue-sue-sue-happy people. Doctors have to pay huge cost for their malpractice insurance. If we put a cap on punitive damage, then the cost of malpractice insurance will go down... then the cost of medical care will go down... then millions more of uninsured people can finally get affordable health care.
 
Jiro said:
oh? curious - now that you're covered by German's nationalized healthcare... you have to wait for months and months (or sometimes years) to see a doctor/specialist, right?

and another question - the amount you pay for German's nationalized healthcare.... is it nearly same amount as the cost of private insurance?
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Many thanks to ur post. I love it.
Good post. I appreciate it
 
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