Canada to Levy 15 Pct Duty on Some U.S. Goods

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OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada said on Thursday it would impose a 15 percent surtax on U.S. imports of live swine, cigarettes and some fish in retaliation for Washington's failure to repeal a controversial anti-dumping law.

Canada said the new tax will bring in revenue of about C$14 million ($11.6 million) a year from its primary trading partner. It announced plans just hours after the European Union announced similar sanctions against the United States. The new Canadian duty will be imposed from May 1.

"Retaliation is not our preferred option, but it is a necessary action. International trade rules must be respected," Canada's Trade Minister Jim Peterson said in a statement.

In August, the World Trade Organization gave the go-ahead for Canada, the EU and others to apply trade sanctions after Washington failed to conform with a WTO ruling that it repeal a subsidy program for U.S. companies known as the Byrd Amendment.

The controversial program distributes funds raised by anti-dumping duties on imports to the U.S. companies that initially requested government anti-dumping protection.

Source: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=domesticNews&storyID=8050902

and as for EU: EU Will Seek to Impose Sanctions on U.S.(old news)
 
Hmmm. an outright trade war. And we buy more of Canada's goods than they do of ours. And our economy sux right now but it dwarfs theirs. We are their biggest trading partner. Hmmm.... doesn't sound like a good move on their part, but what do I know. Dry up their projected revenue windfall from the tax and then some. Sure won't get the softwood and cattle issue settled anytime soon. I'm trying to think of some Canadian products I use. Not canola, that is rape seed oil and it is bad for you. Wheat? Yeah, the price of bread will go up. But so will the demand here for U.S. wheat so it will be more profitable to the farmers. I hate to see us loose all those auto exports, cause that will hurt out auto industry. Canada will have to make do with their own domestic made cars. Nope, I guess it will be Japanese and European imports. But they couldn't buy the Nissans we make here. Hmmm... sounds like a bad deal all the way around. Heck, maybe a few years of isolationism would be good for our economy. Stop the flood of dollars going abroad for a while. Rebuild some of our industries.
 
Codger said:
Hmmm. an outright trade war. And we buy more of Canada's goods than they do of ours. And our economy sux right now but it dwarfs theirs. We are their biggest trading partner. Hmmm.... doesn't sound like a good move on their part, but what do I know. Dry up their projected revenue windfall from the tax and then some. Sure won't get the softwood and cattle issue settled anytime soon. I'm trying to think of some Canadian products I use. Not canola, that is rape seed oil and it is bad for you. Wheat? Yeah, the price of bread will go up. But so will the demand here for U.S. wheat so it will be more profitable to the farmers. I hate to see us loose all those auto exports, cause that will hurt out auto industry. Canada will have to make do with their own domestic made cars. Nope, I guess it will be Japanese and European imports. But they couldn't buy the Nissans we make here. Hmmm... sounds like a bad deal all the way around. Heck, maybe a few years of isolationism would be good for our economy. Stop the flood of dollars going abroad for a while. Rebuild some of our industries.
What about their maple syrup?!? :P Theirs are delicious! But again, Vermont's maple syrup is excellent. We recieved the 'farmed' salmons from Canada (I believe so.. but please correct my comment if I am wrong). I am sure there is some more that we usually depend on Canada but I don't have enough knowledge about economical relationship between Canada and America.

Your comment:
Heck, maybe a few years of isolationism would be good for our economy.
Well, I believe that is excellent idea. Suspend Free Trade policy for a while to boost our economy and jobs. Maybe it will work... maybe it will not work.
 
Hahahaha! Yep, good old Snopes! Well, they also had this to say about that:

Rapeseed oil has been used for cooking for centuries in Europe, India, China, and Japan. As modern science is finding out, its previous use wasn't necessarily a guarantee of safety. Cooking at high temperatures with unrefined rapeseed oil now appears to be related to an increased risk of lung cancer because at high temperatures cooking oil gives off chemicals capable of causing mutations in cells. Unrefined rapeseed oil is particularly notable for this, but other oils also have this association. Those intent upon doing large amounts of wok cooking with any sort of cooking oil should therefore lower their frying temperature from the 240°C to 280°C called for in Chinese cooking to 180°C.

Rapeseed oil naturally contains a high percentage (30-60%) of erucic acid, a substance associated with heart lesions in laboratory animals. For this reason rapeseed oil was not used for consumption in the United States prior to 1974, although it was used in other countries. (Americans chose to use it as a lubricant to maintain Allied naval and merchant ships during World War II.)

In 1974, rapeseed varieties with a low erucic content were introduced. Scientists had found a way to replace almost all of rapeseed's erucic acid with oleic acid, a type of monounsaturated fatty acid. (This change was accomplished through the cross-breeding of plants, not by the techniques commonly referred to as "genetic engineering.") By 1978, all Canadian rapeseed produced for food use contained less than 2% erucic acid. The Canadian seed oil industry rechristened the product "canola oil" (Canadian oil) in 1978 in an attempt to distance the product from negative associations with the word "rape." Canola was introduced to American consumers in 1986. By 1990, erucic acid levels in canola oil ranged from 0.5% to 1.0%, in compliance with U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) standards.

I still don't use it, I don't care if the Minister of oil christens it bunnyoil. :giggle:
 
Banjo said:
Not canola, that is rape seed oil and it is bad for you.

You've been snoped.

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/canola.htm
Sorry for offtopic, everyone. Well, Canola oil is very controversial issue. Many health experts/doctors/scientists indicated that canola oil is indeed bad for humans while other experts indicated it isn't.

I solved my own problem by not adding it to my diet.
 
Magatsu said:
Sorry for offtopic, everyone. Well, Canola oil is very controversial issue. Many health experts/doctors/scientists indicated that canola oil is indeed bad for humans while other experts indicated it isn't.

I solved my own problem by not adding it to my diet.

It's only bad if you don't use it properly. But I really don't use it that much to begin with. :-/
 
Yes, the maple syrup would be a loss to a lot of folks, as would a lot of Canadian agricultural products. My friends in Canada can't send it to me anyway, and I can't send them my home grown herbs (culinary, not smoking).
Trade wars are never a good thing. But I remember the words of the Japanese Admiral as he launched the attack on Pearl Harbor too.

Imperial Admiral Yamamoto--who conceived, designed and promoted the Pearl Harbor attack--cautioned against a war with the United States. Having twice held naval attache positions within the Japanese Embassy in Washington, he knew well the industrial strength, material wealth and temperament of the United States.

Overruled by his superiors, he dedicated his efforts as commander in chief of the Imperial Combined Fleet to a successful attack. Upon completion of the attack he is quoted as saying, "We have awakened a sleeping giant and have instilled in him a terrible resolve."

From the EU link above:
"The EU understands that Canada will be announcing retaliatory measures against certain products from the United States and expects that other co-complainants will soon join it in applying retaliation," the EU head office said.


The other complainants are Brazil, Chile, India, Japan, South Korea and Mexico.

This could get REAL interesting! We cet to close the Southern border and bring all those auto manufacturing jobs back North! And several million less people on the welfare rolls.

South Korea starts paying for the troops and defense ships we are protecting them with! Anyone want to buy a KIA car?

India? Japan? We get some of our electronics manfacturing back.

Chile and Brazil? We loose some agriculture imports, but they do too. And the Brazilians make some fine handguns sold here cheaply. Bye bye Rossi, Taurus.
 
Ok, America may be in economic trouble... or not.

Japan, Mexico Prepare to Follow EU, Canada Sanctions on U.S.

April 1 (Bloomberg) -- Japan and Mexico are preparing to follow the European Union and Canada in imposing extra import duties on U.S. goods after Congress failed to repeal a law that has handed companies such as Timken Co. more than $1 billion in tariffs paid by their competitors.

The Byrd Amendment, first ruled illegal by the World Trade Organization in September 2002, was introduced in 2000 to compensate U.S. industries hurt by foreign goods ``dumped'' at below-market prices. It prompted complaints by a record number of countries at the 10-year-old WTO.

Unless Congress repeals the law, the case may become the most damaging ever at the WTO when the U.S. begins distributing tariffs collected on Canadian lumber, worth $4 billion a year. Japan, the economy most affected by the Byrd Amendment, has the right to impose customs duties worth 125 billion yen ($116 million), the biggest sanctions awarded to Japan in a dispute.

``We have not yet decided when our retaliation measures will be invoked,'' said Kunihiko Kawazu, first counselor at Japan's mission to the WTO in Geneva. ``We have already been authorized to do so at any time, but we will make a judgment taking into account how the discussion in Congress goes on repealing the Byrd Amendment.''

The EU and Canada said yesterday they will impose an extra 15 percent duty on a combined $40 million worth of U.S. imports, including some types of American stationery, clothing, live swine, cigarettes and oysters, beginning May 1.

Choosing Targets

Mexico is deciding which U.S. products will be targeted, said Fernando de Mateo, the country's ambassador to the WTO.

``We're analyzing with what we're going to retaliate,'' he said. ``The problem is not revenge; the problem is you cannot have your cake and eat it. This amendment provides an incentive for producers to say `my neighbor is hurting me.'''

Mexican President Vicente Fox will decide when to apply the sanctions, de Mateo said, adding that he was uncertain about the timing of any decision.

``Japan will move slowly, but ultimately it will move,'' said Lewis Leibowitz, a trade attorney with Hogan & Hartson LLP in Washington and legal counsel to Consuming Industries Trade Action Coalition, an organization lobbying for the Byrd Amendment's repeal that counts Caterpillar Inc., Procter & Gamble Co., Emerson Electric Co. and Nissan North America Inc. among its members.

``Retaliation alone is not going to do this,'' he said. ``If the softwood lumber duties start to get distributed, then retaliation would be huge, but while that's a good reason to repeal, the better reason is that it's a bad law.''

`Dislocations'

The law hurts the U.S. economy by creating ``dislocations'' and it acts as an incentive both to file cases at the WTO and to keep sanctions in place, Leibowitz said. U.S. President George W. Bush called for a repeal of the Byrd Amendment in his budget proposal to Congress on Feb. 7, saying that ending the law could save the U.S. Treasury $1.6 billion in the next fiscal year.

``Retaliation heightens the visibility of the law in Congress,'' says Steve Alexander, CITAC's executive director. ``Imposing retaliation gives credibility to the idea that the law is having a negative impact on the U.S. economy.''

The WTO gave the EU, Canada, Brazil, Japan, India, South Korea and Mexico the right to retaliate against the U.S. law on Nov. 27. Chile won the right to strike back on Dec. 17.

Double Punishment

In their complaints, the governments said the law enables the U.S. to punish exporters twice -- first by imposing a duty and then by giving the money collected to the exporter's rivals. After the U.S. missed an end-2003 deadline for compliance, the WTO authorized governments to impose retaliatory duties on U.S. goods equal to 72 percent of the total paid by their companies.

The European tariffs, worth about $28 million, add to trans- Atlantic trade tensions as the EU and U.S. battle over aid for aircraft makers Airbus SAS and Boeing Co., the EU challenges tax breaks for U.S. exporters worth $4 billion a year and the U.S. fights European resistance to new gene-engineered crops.

U.S. makers of steel, ball bearings, honey and candles are the main beneficiaries of the Byrd Amendment. Total payouts to the U.S. companies would rise as high as $1.6 billion this fiscal year unless the law is repealed, the EU has said.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000082&sid=af9bicBXejsk&refer=canada
 
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America is already in trouble. Decades of worldwide largess is one reason. Almost all of the countries cited in those sanction threats have directly benifited from U.S. aid in economic, agricultural, and industrial development. A lot of them all the way back to the end of WWII. CHeap foreign products flooding our markets sound like a good deal to the consumer, but it erodes our ecomomy big time. I agree that the Byrd Ammendment has served it's purpose and should be repealed. But I do not like seeing our jobs pour overseas at the same time illegal immegration goes unchecked and our country turns to a service economy. America became a world leader by making things. Inventing things. Things that other countries wanted. We have given them the nets, and buy the fish from them now. We are running out of tuppence for foriegn fish! (Metaphor there!)
 
It will be one of few times that I completely agree with you, Codger.

I get this feeling that sanction on US is actually good idea for all of Americans. Many of them needs the jobs badly. Real bad.

Edit: Speaking of illegal immigration. It is unfortunate that Bush disagrees about illegal immigration issue. It got many moderate conservatives angry. Here's link: http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050324-122200-6209r.htm

As we already know that illegal immigration invites the potential opportunity for terrorists to sneak and strike us inside our borders. So why did he not do something about that? It is pretty clear that it is not even about racism... anyway, here's more information about moderate conservatives and illegal immigration issues at: http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=294
 
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To be candid, neither side of the aisle had shown the least bit of concern. Not in many years. Is it because they curry the votes? I read somewhere where some politician was trying to loosen the voting laws so that illegals could vote. Is that true?
 
Yep. Seem that we got the same information. I heard that both parties avoid to do something about illegal immigration because of potential voters.

That is indeed sad and stupid at same time. It is national security risk.
 
Another update

Trade war: US vs the rest of the world

BEIJING - China and the United States have brought out separate reports blaming each other for raising maximum trade barriers, once again bringing their increasing differences over trade-related issues into sharp focus.

Apart from China, at which its ire is primarily targeted, the US report names dozens of other countries for blocking trade, even as the European Union and Canada have joined hands to slap an extra 15% tariff on a range of US goods in retaliation to the Bush administration's use of anti-dumping duties.

Meanwhile, the 182-page annual foreign market access report released by China's Ministry of Commerce on Thursday claimed that Chinese companies faced more trade and investment barriers in the US than in any other part of the world in the past year. While it devoted 22 pages to the obstacles faced in the US, the European Union received 18 and Japan 14. It is the third report of its kind to be issued by the ministry's Bureau of Fair Trade for Imports and Exports, summing up Chinese firms' trade and investment difficulties in the nation's 22 major trading partners.

Trade remedies, technical standards, quarantine, quality inspection, intellectual property rights, customs procedural requirements, environmental protection and labor standards were among the measures used against Chinese exports and investment, according to the report. While the first edition of the report highlighted 250 trade and investment problems, this edition pointed to 450.

A total of 16 economies initiated 57 anti-dumping and safeguard investigations against Chinese goods last year. These cases involved goods worth US$1.26 billion, the highest in the world. The report alleges that US legislation contains several discriminatory provisions against Chinese products. The US filed six anti-dumping investigations and 12 product-specific investigations involving Chinese exports last year.

The 672-page report released by the office of the US Trade Representative (USTR), on the other hand, reported a "significant increase in bilateral trade friction" and listed the "epidemic" of Chinese fake goods as one of the superpower's most serious headaches. "Epidemic levels of counterfeiting and piracy in China cause serious economic harm to US businesses in virtually every sector of the economy," said the report, which dwelt mostly on China - 58 pages. Detailing the areas where the Chinese have allegedly not lived up to the market-opening promises they made to enter the World Trade Organization (WTO), China, the US report said, was failing to enforce its laws against the rampant theft of American movies, software and other intellectual property.

The "National Trade Estimate Report on Foreign Trade Barriers", which has been prepared annually for 20 years, said the US would pull down these obstacles to its exports. "Eliminating trade barriers so that American workers, farmers and businesses can have increased access overseas for our goods and services is one of USTR's core missions. Consultations, negotiations and litigation are among the tools at our disposal, and we are using them aggressively to make sure that Americans are treated fairly," said acting Trade Representative Peter Allgeier.

The countries and trading areas named in the US barriers report are: Angola, the Arab League, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bolivia, Brazil, Bulgaria, Cameroon, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Costa Rica, Ivory Coast, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, Egypt, El Salvador, the European Union, Ghana, Guatemala, Honduras, Hong Kong, India, Indonesia, Israel, Japan, Kazakhstan, Kenya, South Korea, Kuwait, Malaysia, Mexico, Morocco, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, the Philippines, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, the Southern African Customs Union, Sri Lanka, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, Ukraine, the United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan, Venezuela and Vietnam.

The US, which registered a record trade deficit of $617 billion last year, ran up a deficit of $162 billion with China, the largest deficit ever with any country. US manufacturers complain that China's most subversive trade practice is its "undervalued" currency that lends Chinese companies a tremendous competitive advantage and promotes exports at the cost of other economies. But the barriers report made no mention of the yuan; trade officials maintained that currency matters were handled by the Treasury Department, not the trade office.

In February itself, Chinese mills doubled textile and apparel shipments to the US. Nearly $1 billion of jeans, sheets, fabric and other textile goods found their way to American shores from China, compared with $424 million a year ago, according to Global Trade Information Services Inc, a Columbia, South Carolina, firm that compiles data from Chinese customs officials. The 125% increase in February follows a 75% rise in January. The February figure is significant as it came about despite plant shutdowns for the big Chinese New Year holiday.

The surge in Chinese exports is mounting domestic pressure on the Bush administration to respond. Soon after the release of the USTR report, House Democrats urged President George W Bush to act against China, along with other countries accused of unfair trade practices. They said the office of the USTR in the four years since Bush took office has brought just a dozen cases to the WTO, compared with more than 10 a year during Bill Clinton's presidency.

Apart from China, the US report slams India and Japan for "excessively protecting" their telecom markets. "We are deeply concerned by the tepid commitment some of our trade partners have shown to competition in the telecommunications sector," said Allgeier. "This is especially true in countries such as China, India and Japan, where national operators are already competing on a global level, but remain protected at home by relatively closed markets ... USTR expects more vigorous oversight by the Indian regulatory body and the government."

Trans-Atlantic war
The US trade barriers report also lambasts the US's biggest trading partner, the EU, for "obstacles" put up by it. America's pet peeve is the state subsidy allegedly extended to European aircraft maker Airbus that has supposedly helped it to overtake US giant Boeing. EU restrictions on US beef, poultry and genetically modified food have also come under attack, so have non-trade barriers such as different safety and customs standards in different EU member states.

But far from being cowed by the scathing criticism, the EU - along with Canada - has announced that they will impose trade sanctions on several American goods in retaliation to a tax system that compensates American manufacturers "hurt" by foreign goods sold "below cost". From May 1, the EU and Canada will raise import duties by 15% on US products ranging from pocket diaries, women's trousers, frozen sweet corn, cigarettes, pigs and oysters.

The retaliation comes in response to the Byrd amendment that allows the US government to pass on the proceeds from import duties to the companies that request these duties as anti-dumping protection. In four such distributions since 2000, the US government has handed $1 billion to American companies. In November, the WTO ruled that the Byrd amendment was unfair and listed seven countries, including Canada, China and Japan, which could impose sanctions in retaliation. This row comes close on the heels of the collapse of negotiations between Europe and the US over subsidies to Airbus and Boeing.

Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/GD02Dj02.html
 
And the freakin' horse they rode in on!

Increasing Imports of Chinese Glass Products Takes its Toll on North America

China’s increased manufacturing capabilities are having an increasing effect on the North American glass industry. In fact, according to statistics provided by the U.S. Department of Commerce, total glass imports exceeded exports for the first time last year. North American producers face the most competition from Chinese value-added products, such as laminated glass, mirror and furniture glass. And, according to Drew Mayberry, president of Lenoir Mirror in North Wilkesboro, N.C., the Chinese imports are affecting the industry both directly and indirectly.
http://www.usglassmagazine.com/backissues/0410/newsnow.html

Imports threaten apple growers

Western New York apple growers are worrying about a threat they say could damage their business to its very core.

First, in the 1990s, came the importing of cheap apple juice concentrate from China. That virtually destroyed one of the three market segments that they depend upon -- apples for apple juice.

The latest concern, though, could be even worse, says James Bittner, managing partner of Singer Farms in Newfane: The prospect of the U.S. government allowing unregulated imports of Chinese apples.

"China has 300 insects and diseases of apples that we have never seen here," says Bittner, who has 500 acres of fruit trees, including 200 acres of apples. "They want the fresh apple business in the U.S. and we're afraid that if they are allowed to send their apples here, unregulated, some of those insects or diseases could come with them."
http://buffalo.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2004/05/03/story1.html

The world's largest retailer, Wal-Mart Stores Inc, says its inventory of stock produced in China is expected to hit US$18 billion this year, keeping the annual growth rate of over 20 per cent consistent over two years.

"If Wal-Mart were an individual economy, it would rank as China's eighth-biggest trading partner, ahead of Russia, Australia and Canada," Xu said.

More than 5,000 Chinese enterprises have established steady supply alliances with Wal-Mart.

So far, more than 70 per cent of the commodities sold in Wal-Mart are made in China.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-11/29/content_395728.htm
 
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