Assemblies of God Deaf Camp registration still open

[Miss-Delectable]

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060706/NEWS06/307060022/1004/LIVING

Registration is open for the Louisiana Assemblies of God Deaf Camp.

The camp for children ages 10 to 18 will be held July 31 to Aug. 5 at the Assemblies of God Campground in Woodworth. Tuition is free and transportation is provided.

Daily activities include Bible classes, swimming, pingpong tournaments and a Bible challenge competition. Evening services will feature the Rev. Nathan Fylstra, a deaf evangelist who communicates in sign language.

The registration deadline is Saturday.

For more information, contact the Rev. Dorothy Scott by mail at A/G Deaf Camp, P.O. Box 7388 Alexandria, LA 71306-7388; by phone at (318) 448-8848; by TTY and fax (318) 445-1867; or by e-mail at LaAGDeaf@aol.com.

 

[deafdyke]

I know some hearing parents lurk here......Please, please if you're not religious, do not send your dhh(or hearing) kids to a camp like this. Find a general summer camp. Yes, the summer camp part is fun, but the religious part, especially with some evalingcial types can be extreme.

 

[pek1]

I know some hearing parents lurk here......Please, please if you're not religious, do not send your dhh(or hearing) kids to a camp like this. Find a general summer camp. Yes, the summer camp part is fun, but the religious part, especially with some evalingcial types can be extreme.

 

[dkf747]

I know some hearing parents lurk here......Please, please if you're not religious, do not send your dhh(or hearing) kids to a camp like this. Find a general summer camp. Yes, the summer camp part is fun, but the religious part, especially with some evalingcial types can be extreme.

Let's leave that up to the parents, eh?

 

[deafdyke]

Thank you pek1! I know you know the type I'm talking about....in other words the type of people who send their Baptist kids to Bible College for at least one year, or the type who think BJU is too libral, or the ones who go to Hyles-Anderson. Extreme evalingcalists in other words.
I would normally let the parents decide but, some parents send their kids to religious camps thinking that it's basicly libral arts summer camp with a sprinkling of "Christian" teachings, like Bible verse memorization thrown in for good measure. Many if not most if not all extreme evalingcal christian camps are more ALL ABOUT JESUS, with a sprinkling of summer camp thrown in.
I do know of disabled kids who got sent to a disabled camp run by evalingcal groups, and they d it.

 

[dkf747]

How much do you know about the camp in this post?

What do you mean when you say that you won't let the parents decide what they want to do?

 

[pek1]

Thank you pek1! I know you know the type I'm talking about....in other words the type of people who send their Baptist kids to Bible College for at least one year, or the type who think BJU is too libral, or the ones who go to Hyles-Anderson. Extreme evalingcalists in other words.
I would normally let the parents decide but, some parents send their kids to religious camps thinking that it's basicly libral arts summer camp with a sprinkling of "Christian" teachings, like Bible verse memorization thrown in for good measure. Many if not most if not all extreme evalingcal christian camps are more ALL ABOUT JESUS, with a sprinkling of summer camp thrown in.
I do know of disabled kids who got sent to a disabled camp run by evalingcal groups, and they d it.

deafdyke,

I'm gonna bite on this one, as I'm not sure which side you support. I am aware of the Hyles-Anderson, and am surprised you brought up that Bible college . . . what gives? You may pm me if you want to take that off list, as I'd prefer you to, okay please? No, I'm not mad, but do have some questions. I'm also aware of the Assemblies of God side of it, too . . . closer to a water-logged snow cone if you ask me.

 

[deafdyke]

pek, just to clear up things....I think that religion can be a wonderful force in someone's life. I'm not anti-spirtual or anti religion. However some religious people are almost Asperger's Syndrome about their religion.....you really gotta have balance. Like I've heard of parents sending their kids to Bible colleges, when the kids didn't even have any intention of becoming ministers or missionaries or whatnot. I respect a person's belief in Jesus, but some people are INSANE (as in pathalogically insane) about everything having to be about JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[pek1]

pek, just to clear up things....I think that religion can be a wonderful force in someone's life. I'm not anti-spirtual or anti religion. However some religious people are almost Asperger's Syndrome about their religion.....you really gotta have balance. Like I've heard of parents sending their kids to Bible colleges, when the kids didn't even have any intention of becoming ministers or missionaries or whatnot. I respect a person's belief in Jesus, but some people are INSANE (as in pathalogically insane) about everything having to be about JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Understood and agreed. Can you believe that we can agree on this? No hard feelings.

 

[deafdyke]

pek, I gotta say that you rock! I know you're a fundamentalist, but you approach it in more of the manner that my friends who are Catholics or who are Christians, but not fundies approach it. I wish there were more libral fundamentalist folks out there like you!

 

[pek1]

pek, I gotta say that you rock! I know you're a fundamentalist, but you approach it in more of the manner that my friends who are Catholics or who are Christians, but not fundies approach it. I wish there were more libral fundamentalist folks out there like you!

deafdyke,

You may want to go to the thread titled "If you were president . . ." in current events and read what I have written. Yes, I took my answer to the extreme, which needs to be done sometimes. I have never been "Christian Right" but am more of the "Christian upside down/right and left side up, inside and out" than anything. Also, I tend to push the envelope as to what I would suggest for something to work. Additionally, I tend to be more liberal to those folks that need it and downright far right to others.

Can you imagine people in church carrying guns? It would make the pastor preach what's in the Bible, that's for sure!

I see problems in society and things that both sides "recommend" do not work. So, I take it to the extreme and suggest something more outrageous, which I am not saying is for shock value. At the same time, I am not a racist person and believe in equal rights for all (what are "minorities?") without excuse. Heath would vehemently disagree, which is his problem.

There's so much that can be improved, but I'd wager that if my plan was implemented, there wouldn't be any problems for anyone . . . including gays, women, deaf, other people who are "disabled" in any way, et al.

Don't even ask for a tax cut, either . . . you'll never get one!

By the way, thanks for the complement!

 

[deafdyke]

What do you mean when you say that you won't let the parents decide what they want to do?

Huh? I never said something like that?!?!?!? I just think that parents of kids with disabilites should be VERY cautious about sending them to disabled camps run by evangialialist organizations. Many parents of kids with disabilites think that those types of camps are just typical libral arts camps, with a sprinkling of spirituality thrown in. Instead it's the opposite....it's all about Jesus with a sprinkling of libral arts thrown in. Now that might be fine if you're religious and belong to that particualr deonomination, but if you're not then it's not too fun. I don't know too much about this particualr camp, but I do know of kids who have been sent to disabled camps run by churches, and they HATED it!
pek, that rocks that you're not Christian Right! You really do follow Christ.....

 

[pek1]

Huh? I never said something like that?!?!?!? I just think that parents of kids with disabilites should be VERY cautious about sending them to disabled camps run by evangialialist organizations. Many parents of kids with disabilites think that those types of camps are just typical libral arts camps, with a sprinkling of spirituality thrown in. Instead it's the opposite....it's all about Jesus with a sprinkling of libral arts thrown in. Now that might be fine if you're religious and belong to that particualr deonomination, but if you're not then it's not too fun. I don't know too much about this particualr camp, but I do know of kids who have been sent to disabled camps run by churches, and they HATED it!
pek, that rocks that you're not Christian Right! You really do follow Christ.....

Hope you don't mind, deafdyke, especially if you read what I told you I wrote. Your last sentence brought me to tears and I thank you!

I reread what you had said regarding kids with disabilities and Christian camps and thought about my own experiences. I have a severe hearing loss, but my speech is almost crystal clear, so can I be succinct in asking if you have any idea how many people, not only at camp but at church, too, have "laid hands" on me for healing of my hearing loss? Granted, I have prayed for it myself, but, the older I get, the more I can and do accept myself for what I am, so why can't these people? In short, unless the camp period is specifically for those who others would call "disabled," it is best not to attend there.

 

[deafdyke]

Pete, I can imagine....and this camp being AG is probaly filled with that sort of stuff. I just think that most parents would be better off sending their kid with a disabilty over to a nonreligious camp for kids with disabilties.....or if the parent thinks religion is important, send their kids to a more libral religious camp.
I attended a session of a evalingal christian camp.....and I must say it was awful. It was Jesus 24/7, filled with modren day Phraisees who felt the need to display EVERY single aspect of their lives as being Christian. Hey, I knew the Bible more then they did....I remember one time quoting that verse in Levicticus about how parents can kill their kids if they are disobendiant, and everyone was shocked that was in there!

 

[pek1]

I remember one time quoting that verse in Levicticus about how parents can kill their kids if they are disobendiant, and everyone was shocked that was in there!

Perhaps if these "parents" would pay attention to their pastors sermons AND read their own Bibles for themselves. Sheesh! :roll:

 

[dkf747]

Huh? I never said something like that?!?!?!?

You wrote - "I would normally let the parents decide but,..."

Now I understand what you are saying, but I do not think you are being fair to this particular camp. What do you know about this specific camp? "Since it is an AG camp" is not enough. "Since the AG is evangelical" is not enough.

I say let the parents decide where they will send their kids. They (the parents) are not as stupid as you seem to imply they are.

 

[pek1]

You wrote - "I would normally let the parents decide but,..."

Now I understand what you are saying, but I do not think you are being fair to this particular camp. What do you know about this specific camp? "Since it is an AG camp" is not enough. "Since the AG is evangelical" is not enough.

I say let the parents decide where they will send their kids. They (the parents) are not as stupid as you seem to imply they are.

Hold on, dude! I can pretty much vouch that I have yet to see or hear of any "Christian" organization running a camp for disabled campers and know what they're doing. I have firsthand experience with the A/G's, do you?

 

[deafdyke]

Yes, A/Gs are generally extremely fundie, right Pete? Let me put it this way....they promote speaking in tongues

 

[dkf747]

Hold on, dude! I can pretty much vouch that I have yet to see or hear of any "Christian" organization running a camp for disabled campers and know what they're doing. I have firsthand experience with the A/G's, do you?

Yes, I do. What is your point? The A/G has several camps for the Deaf, and they are not all the same. I disagree that they all don't know what they are doing. If the parent doesn't want that then fine, but they do not operate in secret. They are not trying to fool anyone into believing they are something they are not. So where is the problem? Disagreeing with their theological standpoint is irrelevant.

 

[pek1]

Yes, A/Gs are generally extremely fundie, right Pete? Let me put it this way....they promote speaking in tongues

They're Pentecostal, not fundamentalists. I attend a fundamental Baptist church, they (A/G's) accept almost anything, at least that what it seems to be happening now.