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I make no excuses for a parent who doesn't learn ASL, especially if their child uses it.

No, I am not asking you to make excuses. That is not your responsibility. I was asking if it was easier than being an oral-only family, then it doesnt make sense because I have heard all the excuses that parents and family members make about ASL...that it is too hard.

Hope that makes sense.
 
It is closing a door. By not implanting my child, I would have absolutly been choosing to not give her access to hearing spoken language. I would be disallowing her that opportunity.

I and many others will have to agree to disagree with you.

You are entitled to your views.
 
No, I am not asking you to make excuses. That is not your responsibility. I was asking if it was easier than being an oral-only family, then it doesnt make sense because I have heard all the excuses that parents and family members make about ASL...that it is too hard.

Hope that makes sense.

People tends to think short-term... not long-term, so "ASL is too hard" when they're thinking short-term.
 
No, I am not asking you to make excuses. That is not your responsibility. I was asking if it was easier than being an oral-only family, then it doesnt make sense because I have heard all the excuses that parents and family members make about ASL...that it is too hard.

Hope that makes sense.

They are full of it. If you are doing oral language right, it is way more work than taking a few classes and going to Deaf community activities! And once you learn it, you just have to switch the language of all your interactions.

People who say ASL is harder are doing nothing, not auditory oral.
 
The CI has been in use since the early 80's and there has been no effect shown.

Again, this is from the FDA. I believe each person should decide if these risks is worth it for themselves


What are the Risks of Cochlear Implants?
General Anesthesia Risks
General anesthesia is drug-induced sleep. The drugs, such as anesthetic gases and injected drugs, may affect people differently. For most people, the risk of general anesthesia is very low. However, for some people with certain medical conditions, it is more risky.
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Risks from the Surgical Implant Procedure
Injury to the facial nerve --this nerve goes through the middle ear to give movement to the muscles of the face. It lies close to where the surgeon needs to place the implant, and thus it can be injured during the surgery. An injury can cause a temporary or permanent weakening or full paralysis on the same side of the face as the implant.
Meningitis --this is an infection of the lining of the surface of the brain. People who have abnormally formed inner ear structures appear to be at greater risk of this rare, but serious complication. For more information on the risk of meningitis in cochlear recipients, see the nearby Useful Links.
Cerebrospinal fluid leakage --the brain is surrounded by fluid that may leak from a hole created in the inner ear or elsewhere from a hole in the covering of the brain as a result of the surgical procedure.
Perilymph fluid leak --the inner ear or cochlea contains fluid. This fluid can leak through the hole that was created to place the implant.
Infection of the skin wound.
Blood or fluid collection at the site of surgery.
Attacks of dizziness or vertigo.
Tinnitus, which is a ringing or buzzing sound in the ear.
Taste disturbances --the nerve that gives taste sensation to the tongue also goes through the middle ear and might be injured during the surgery.
Numbness around the ear.
Reparative granuloma --this is the result of localized inflammation that can occur if the body rejects the implant.
There may be other unforeseen complications that could occur with long term implantation that we cannot now predict.
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Other Risks Associated with the Use of Cochlear Implants
People with a cochlear implant:
May hear sounds differently. Sound impressions from an implant differ from normal hearing, according to people who could hear before they became deaf. At first, users describe the sound as "mechanical", "technical", or "synthetic". This perception changes over time, and most users do not notice this artificial sound quality after a few weeks of cochlear implant use.
May lose residual hearing. The implant may destroy any remaining hearing in the implanted ear.
May have unknown and uncertain effects. The cochlear implant stimulates the nerves directly with electrical currents. Although this stimulation appears to be safe, the long term effect of these electrical currents on the nerves is unknown.
May not hear as well as others who have had successful outcomes with their implants.
May not be able to understand language well. There is no test a person can take before surgery that will predict how well he or she will understand language after surgery.
May have to have it removed temporarily or permanently if an infection develops after the implant surgery. However, this is a rare complication.
May have their implant fail. In this situation, a person with an implant would need to have additional surgery to resolve this problem and would be exposed to the risks of surgery again.
May not be able to upgrade their implant when new external components become available. Implanted parts are usually compatible with improved external parts. That way, as advances in technology develop, one can upgrade his or her implant by changing only its external parts. In some cases, though, this won't work and the implant will need changing.
May not be able to have some medical examinations and treatments. These treatments include:
MRI imaging
. MRI is becoming a more routine diagnostic method for early detection of medical problems. Even being close to an MRI imaging unit will be dangerous because it may dislodge the implant or demagnetize its internal magnet. FDA has approved some implants, however, for some types of MRI studies done under controlled conditions.
neurostimulation.
electrical surgery.
electroconvulsive therapy.
ionic radiation therapy.
Will depend on batteries for hearing. For some devices new or recharged batteries are needed every day.
May damage their implant. Contact sports, automobile accidents, slips and falls, or other impacts near the ear can damage the implant. This may mean needing a new implant and more surgery. It is unknown whether a new implant would work as well as the old one.
May find them expensive. Replacing damaged or lost parts may be expensive.
Will have to use it for the rest of life. During a person's lifetime, the manufacturer of the cochlear implant could go out of business. Whether a person will be able to get replacement parts or other customer service in the future is uncertain.
May have lifestyle changes because their implant will interact with the electronic environment. An implant may
set off theft detection systems
set off metal detectors or other security systems
be affected by cellular phone users or other radio transmitters
have to be turned off during take offs and landings in aircraft
interact in unpredictable ways with other computer systems
Will have to be careful of static electricity. Static electricity may temporarily or permanently damage a cochlear implant. It may be good practice to remove the processor and headset before contact with static generating materials such as children's plastic play equipment, TV screens, computer monitors, or synthetic fabric. For more details regarding how to deal with static electricity, contact the manufacturer or implant center.
Have less ability to hear both soft sounds and loud sounds without changing the sensitivity of the implant. The sensitivity of normal hearing is adjusted continuously by the brain, but the design of cochlear implants requires that a person manually change sensitivity setting of the device as the sound environment changes.
May develop irritation where the external part rubs on the skin and have to remove it for a while.
Can't let the external parts get wet. Damage from water may be expensive to repair and the person may be without hearing until the implant is repaired. Thus, the person will need to remove the external parts of the device when bathing, showering, swimming, or participating in water sports.
May hear strange sounds caused by its interaction with magnetic fields, like those near airport passenger screening machines.

-Useful Links
FDA Public Health Notification: Importance of Vaccination in Cochlear Implant Recipients
WebMD: Anesthesia - Risks and Complications


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I have said it before. When we were simply an ASL family life was so much easier! Now I have to learn about technology, stratigies, worry about if stuff is working, evaluate her auditory sills vs. language....etc, etc, etc. Things were simplier pre-spoken language.

Ok. :)
 
Yes, there is an increased risk of meningitis, but that is because some deaf people have cochleas that are atypical. Also, earlier models can not get MRI's but the new internals, from all brands, can.
 
It is closing a door. By not implanting my child, I would have absolutly been choosing to not give her access to hearing spoken language. I would be disallowing her that opportunity.

And that is worth risking death? Facial paralysis? Meningitis? Pain? Vertigo?

I can tell you right now having experienced both Deafness and Vertigo that I would much rather not be able to hear than not be able to lift my head without throwing up.
 
And that is worth risking death? Facial paralysis? Meningitis? Pain? Vertigo?

I can tell you right now having experienced both Deafness and Vertigo that I would much rather not be able to hear than not be able to lift my head without throwing up.

No one has ever died during a CI operation, ever. My daughter's surgeon has never had a single facial nerve issue, ever. My daughter has had her meningitis vaccine, and her inner ear is normal, so she has no greater risk than average. She had a tiny bit of pain, but after lunch and a nap, she was back to normal.
 
Then don't implant your child. You absolutly have that right. But you do NOT have the right to prevent me from giving my daughter the opportunity to hear and learn spoken language. That door was completely closed to her with hearing aids. Now she has the chance to have a better relationship with her extended family, neighbors, etc because she can communicate with them. Why should your opinion hold her communication, access and options back?

My extended family (Even the down syndrome cousin) signs. my neighbors signed. The general public here in town is populated with people that knows sign.

I dont feel held back.
 
No one has ever died during a CI operation, ever. My daughter's surgeon has never had a single facial nerve issue, ever. My daughter has had her meningitis vaccine, and her inner ear is normal, so she has no greater risk than average. She had a tiny bit of pain, but after lunch and a nap, she was back to normal.

How do you know?

Due to Hippa - they arent going to tell you that.
 
My extended family (Even the down syndrome cousin) signs. my neighbors signed. The general public here in town is populated with people that knows sign.

I dont feel held back.

And that is great, but there are people who complain here, every single day, that they are left out because 99% of the people in their lives don't sign.
 
No one has ever died during a CI operation, ever. My daughter's surgeon has never had a single facial nerve issue, ever. My daughter has had her meningitis vaccine, and her inner ear is normal, so she has no greater risk than average. She had a tiny bit of pain, but after lunch and a nap, she was back to normal.


Still a risk. The fact that it worked out well does not negate the fact that a risk was taken. That's like saying drinking and driving is safe because you have always made it home safe.

Are you sure about the bold part???? I merely assert that the FDA considers it a risk. Do you have facts to back up your declaration????

Mortality rates for general anesthesia seem to indicate that there would be at least a few. The risks are even greater with infants
 
And that is great, but there are people who complain here, every single day, that they are left out because 99% of the people in their lives don't sign.

well - 99% of us with CI/HA experience same thing. having CI or learning how to talk won't help much anyway. it's a one-way street, not two. CI/HA or not, we get the same thing - "never mind"
 
well - 99% of us with CI/HA experience same thing. having CI or learning how to talk won't help much anyway. it's a one-way street, not two. CI/HA or not, we get the same thing - "never mind"

That's why we need both. Different tools in different situations.
 
Still a risk. The fact that it worked out well does not negate the fact that a risk was taken. That's like saying drinking and driving is safe because you have always made it home safe.

Are you sure about the bold part???? I merely assert that the FDA considers it a risk. Do you have facts to back up your declaration????

Mortality rates for general anesthesia seem to indicate that there would be at least a few. The risks are even greater with infants

And no, the risks are not higher for a healthy baby. The studies show that they are not at any greater risk of complications due to young age.
 
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