Advancement in biotechnology

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Unfortunately there is no "Medicine" or "biotechnology" category in AD even though there are many deaf/hh people with multiple disabilities such as deafness and cerebral palsy, deafness with vision impairment issues, and so on, including deaf and having some sort of medical condition or ailment like deafness and arthritic conditions where the hands, for example, are affected seriously that can affect a person's quality of life. So, I'll start it off by linking to an article on the latest news of Salk researchers on the discussion of them using biotechnology to help improve vision and someday soon cure blindness, and on advancements in technology to help improve vision, and an article on stem cells on the treatment of arthritis and cartilage damage.

On blindness:
Salk Researcher Seeks a Cure for Blindness | KPBS.org

On stem cells and arthritis and damaged cartilage:
Technology Review: Cartilage Grafts for Damaged Knees
 
A suggestion, you can discuss this issue in the health , food section.

With technology advancing , who knows what will happen next. Perhaps, you can keep us updated :)
 
Those are interesting articles.

A science forum has been asked for several times. Maybe we will have one soon.
 
What topic in particular are you interested in biotechnology? Yes, its broad. Are you interested in finding a cure for something?
 
What topic in particular are you interested in biotechnology? Yes, its broad. Are you interested in finding a cure for something?

Something like that will help eradicate/reduce hearing loss or even vision loss as well in the field of biotechnology whether it's stem cells or some other possible means.
 
Something like that will help eradicate/reduce hearing loss or even vision loss as well in the field of biotechnology whether it's stem cells or some other possible means.

just saying that stem cell cannot eradicate or cure it because this is a genetic defect. In order to fix that genetic defect - that would be genetic engineering.... which is probably in another century or 2. We're not even close to decoding the whole human DNA.
 
just saying that stem cell cannot eradicate or cure it because this is a genetic defect. In order to fix that genetic defect - that would be genetic engineering.... which is probably in another century or 2. We're not even close to decoding the whole human DNA.

Er, never say never.

Deafness Research UK : News : Towards a genetic treatment for hearing loss

Agree that we have hearing loss caused by genetic defect(s). We have hearing loss that is not caused by a genetic defect but from loud noises, ototoxic drugs, premature development while in the womb (i.e. preemies, rubella babies) and so on. Mine is nerve deafness or sensorineural hearing loss caused when my mother was exposed to Rubella or German measles while she was pregnant with me. The majority of hearing loss is sensorineural or nerve deafness among the population and so with the right and proper stem cells treatment or some other biotech treatment it'll probably be the first target population to get a chance for their hearing loss to improve or restored completely. Only time will tell.

We will not know what the culture, law and biotechnology will be like in 100 years from now but certainly you could bet that hearing loss would be easily treatable by then. Who knows if there will be mandatory laws that babies born with hearing loss must be required to be treated and restored 40, 80 or 120 years from now. *shrugs*

Never say never because looking back 100 years ago you can see where medicine and biotechnology was like then. I can't even imagine what it'll be like in 100 years from now.
 
Some minor misunderstandings I can attempt to clarify on.. It's in my area of interest. Beware of the long post, but anyway I summarized it as the complete information anyone would want in this area of science. It's good to see another fellow board member who is into this area of science, in my time here I have found that there are actually VERY few members that are/will speak their mind on it.


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GENETIC ENGINEERING HANDOUT:
The human DNA has already had various drafts decoded by many scientists. I think I heard the first of all drafts came out in 2000-2001, and since then many other researchers have came out with their own results and findings to share. They were all using various subjects. One of them I recall used a Japanese puffer fish to substitute for about 1/3rd of the human DNA, because they had that much in similarities.

Genetic engineering has been available for some time now, but mostly it's been kept the lid on due to public protests and disproval of the methods incorporated.
There's the problem presented of birth defects that causes deafness - Everyone is supposed to be born hearing but through that small chance of genetic mutation and other deficiencies we get deafness, for those born d/Deaf, so.. how can we alternate this, as in "eradicate deafness"?
Two main alternatives that comes to my mind:

A. Simply choose the "donor" or carrier that would have a high probability of not procuring deafness in the offspring. IE, you get an egg donor or sperm donor from someone who has no history of hereditary deafness, and there is a high chance the offspring will not receive it. This is already available now. In gay marriages, you will see sometimes that between both partners they may choose a sibling in either of their families to be used as the donor for the other to impregnate. There's no sexual activity done at all.

B. Gene splicing of the DNA sequences that are responsible for the brain nerves or physical structure of the ear; as in taking that sperm/egg cell and alternating it to "engineer" the perfect human is not available at this time. However that is what scientists are doing with laboratory experiments, they are trying to research this area.



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DEAFNESS: POST-EMBRYOTIC:
Recall that deafness is caused by two major categories.. If you're deaf or hard of hearing, I'm sure you've heard of either before. Sensorineural (damage of the brain nerves), and Conductive (some kind of damage/obstruction in the ear canal).

Conductive has been and usually will be treatable, it is known to many people as temporary deafness. Unless there is some kind of injury to the ear, then that will be permanent. Many hearing have suffered from a conductive problem in the ear one way or another, took some pills prescribed by the physician or had a checkup, and it is fixed. It comes and goes.

Restoration in the neurophysiology of the brain that causes sensorineural deafness at this time is kind of known to be implausible for the general public, and that's what stem cell research is all about as we know about it through this term. It is still in research.


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CLIFF NOTES FOR THE LAZY:
There's two ways to define curing a person of a "genetic defect".

Somatic gene therapy - this is what stem cell research is all about. Somatic therapy refers to having to deal with a single individual through "repair" methods. It doesn't have to be just deafness, somatic therapy can cover other areas such as blindness, and many other general human anomalies.

Germline gene therapy - this is what was being spoken earlier as modifying eggs and sperm. If either of these are modified, then the subject falls under the category of germline therapy. This is also AKA "Gamete Gene Therapy" as well, the two are the same thing.

So knowing all this now, what's left to do with all this?
The to-be-coming worldwide debate:
Somatic therapy for illness has been generally accepted as OK, but for the other, Germline therapy is highly controversial.. according to a few of my professors, they believe that this will be the main debate issue over Earth for the years of anywhere around 2015 to 2040, it's already begun but right now its in the infancy stage. This is why the technology isn't advancing as quickly (publicly), we are having "ethical" problems with it. When the term becomes more generalized and mainstreamed, then that's when the debate will start. The children born of the 70's, 80's, 90's will most likely be the majority that determines the rest of the nation.

Further researching and experimentation:
There's never enough scientists, plus the experiments that they need to test on. Usually the modern age testing is done on laboratory animals like I've said previously, not just limited to mice, but they may base their experimenting other animals such as fish, rabbits, primates, and so on. This is why biomedical research has hit a giant bump in the road when people rally against animal testing, saying that it is unethical to animals. Without them, there is no plausible way we can advance on humans without some base to start on, unless everyone is ok with people having side effects as a result of testing.
How do we test hearing loss on a plant?
Whoever gets this question right gets a lucky prize.
 
Something like that will help eradicate/reduce hearing loss or even vision loss as well in the field of biotechnology whether it's stem cells or some other possible means.

No medical treatment will ever be capable of eliminating deafness or blindness entirely.
 
that's what the man said about going to moon

Hair cell regeneration has been around for years yet there is no evidence to support the fact that it will come to fruition anytime soon. They've been continually claiming this treatment will be available in 5-10 years. Every 5-10 years, they keep making the same prediction with no results.
 
Hair cell regeneration has been around for years yet there is no evidence to support the fact that it will come to fruition anytime soon. They've been continually claiming this treatment will be available in 5-10 years. Every 5-10 years, they keep making the same prediction with no results.

no..... try within next century or 2 for advanced genetic engineering. It works on rats and some animals but not yet ready for human.
 
One caveat saying the impossible will never come.....

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. patent office, 1899
 
Hair cell regeneration has been around for years yet there is no evidence to support the fact that it will come to fruition anytime soon. They've been continually claiming this treatment will be available in 5-10 years. Every 5-10 years, they keep making the same prediction with no results.

Clarify "for years..." Is this to mean decades and decades or what? Study on hair cell regeneration is little more than a couple of decades old. (see - Stimulating hair cell regeneration: On a wing and a prayer - Nature Medicine). It has been only recently in the last several years that this area of study has rapidly picked up.
- Virginia Merril Bloedel Hearing Research Center - Inner Ear Hair Cell Regeneration
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And, being an avid science researcher on the subject for several years I have not seen them making claims every 5 to 10 years that a treatment be available 5 to 10 years down the road. The only time I seen that was over the last few years that a treatment *may* be possible in 10 to 15 years from now. Recently, several recent investigations now provide evidence that hair cell regeneration in mammals is attainable such as purposely causing guinea pigs to lose their hearings through ototoxic drugs and apply gene therapy to replace hair cells damaged by the drugs in guinea pigs.

Here's an excellent piece that came out last month that describes a bit of history, questions on hearing loss and the restoration of it, and the current research.

Several stem cell types have been delivered into the mammaliancochlea for the replacement of auditory neurons, including bonemarrow stem cells, neural stem cells, inner ear stem cells, and embryonic stem cells. Investigators have found evidence that these cell types can integrate into the target site (although they don't always do this), express neuronal markers, and grow neuronal processes. Some reports show that these cells can survive for up to 13 weeks (Coleman et al., 2007). Although such findings illustrate thepromise of this therapy, many questions remain unanswered and further investigation in animal models will be necessary before this technique can be used in humans.
Hair Cell Regeneration: How It Works and What It Means for Audiologists

You have to develop models of how hearing and hair cells can work at the micro and nanoscale to understand the various mechanisms and possibities of how hair cells regeneration can take place. Which is why mouse, guinea pigs, etc are being used to test their hair cell regeneration model. First it started off with studying birds because researchers discovered they have the capability to restore naturally their own any hearing loss and then it progressed to mammalian animals. Soon, humans will be the next guinea pig, so to speak, in due time. You have to spend a lot of time to learn and develop a model at a such a fine scale that explains the processes and this takes a while.

Here's a good list of articles on hair cell regeneration over time since 2000 with links.
hair cell regeration

Using stem cells -- master cells that produce all the body's tissues and organs -- to generate these cell types in the laboratory could change that dramatically.

Rivolta's research parallels more advanced work on the eye by another group of British-based scientists, who plan to use stem cells to treat age-related macular degeneration, a common cause of blindness, in clinical tests starting in 2010 or 2011.

Doctors hope one day to use stem cells to treat a wide range of diseases such as Parkinson's, diabetes and cancer. But localized approaches in the eye or ear may be a promising first step, since fewer cells are involved.
April 2009 - Stem cells may help deaf people hear - Cloning and stem cells- msnbc.com


Never say never in the field of biotechnology. Over the last two decades they have compiled a huge database of information as well as techniques on how to deliver and help turn on ear hair cells to begin the regeneration process. It is simply a matter of time until this becomes successful.
 
Here's an excellent piece that came out last month that describes a bit of history, questions on hearing loss and the restoration of it, and the current research.

Hair Cell Regeneration: How It Works and What It Means for Audiologists said:
Hair Cell Regeneration: How It Works and What It Means for Audiologists
Although such findings illustrate thepromise of this therapy, many questions remain unanswered and further investigation in animal models will be necessary before this technique can be used in humans.

Yes, kokonut, this is precisely what I have questions for on the rest of the users and discussions and opinions here on AD when it comes to animal testing regarding advancements in biomedical technology.

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/64130-should-we-use-experimental-drugs-prisoners.html

In this topic, you will see lots of varying opinions on not just animal, but various forms of human testing.

The way I see it, without animal testing at a small extent from somewhere, there's no possible way it can be done safely on humans unless the research team gets within that 0.00000001% lucky chance to know the right DNA sequence to replace for hearing loss. Its just impossible. Misson(s) Impossible 1, + 2, + 3, + 4 all combined even looks easier than this.

Though, perhaps an individual could argue that not everyone wants to be cured of deafness as well. You surely are aware of that minority too, am I not mistaken?
 
Sorry but I totally disagree. All these "Medical advances" have been around so long. It's all "medical advances" and I don't believe a word of it.

So far all things are tested on animals first then on humans and it doesnt always work on humans. Sometimes people get killed when it comes to human trials.

Actually animal testing actually delays research. Their are better ways if we would stop torturing animals in laboritories since it is just plain wrong.
 
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