A Great Story About A Little Boy

[Maria]

RedFox,

It's all about L O V E. I want to press and spell that out for you. It's L O V E ! It's all about LOVE. And, how LOVE could save a person's life. Love is very unique and is beyond than any man's mind could muster.

If, God knew about everythin' BEFORE he created anythin', then it's all about HIM. It's HIS story, not yours or mine or anyone else's. He tests all of us to see, if we obey or chose to reject Him. Same idea, He would give you a child and see, if you could teach your child to follow your steps or chose to reject you by breakin' the laws and end up in jail or bein' killed. Try to look at a child and use your imagination to see, if you can realllly UNDERSTAND God for the same reason. You would want your child to be all about you - daddy is his/her world... daughter/son is daddy's world. It's all about LOVE to look after. God looks after us for the same reason, too. But, He is also wantin' us to have a genuine ( intimate ) relationship with Him.

Now, speakin' of bad/sins/hell -- It's life what people make it. Not God's. He gave them their life and they make it what they WANT it to be on their own -- good or bad, their choice. If, they want to chose to be a robber, so be it. If, they want to chose to be a rapist, so be it and all that. That will send them to hell for an eternity if, they don't repent and follow what's right. God didn't teach them to be a robber or rapist. Of course, He knows that they will do it, but God don't stop them unless they call for God and ask for help through prayer and confess their sins through repent. It's not that hard to do.

I want to ask you some questions : Why would Lucifer disobey God in the first place through his evil pride ( greedy, envy at the same time ) ? Why can't he just shut up and let God be God ... and, then we will not suffer like this ( pains, sick, unhappy and everythin' ) ?

Lucifer was actin' like " Me, me, me, me ! It's all about ME ! :" Guess what ? He forgot that God created him, not him that created God to own that Throne, heaven and everythin'. Lucifer was just merely an angel, but beautiful one. And, now Lucifer's name changed and his name is Satan. That name ain't that pretty, because he is ugly in his own darkness. What ugly looks like ? I have no clue, but he wasn't that beautiful anymore like he was. How sad eh ...

 

[RedFox]

RedFox,

It's all about L O V E. I want to press and spell that out for you. It's L O V E ! It's all about LOVE. And, how LOVE could save a person's life. Love is very unique and is beyond than any man's mind could muster.

So Christianity is about love? It's not unique in that respect.

If, God knew about everythin' BEFORE he created anythin', then it's all about HIM. It's HIS story, not yours or mine or anyone else's. He tests all of us to see, if we obey or chose to reject Him.

Why would an omniscientist god need to test his subjects to see if they would obey or reject him? If he knows everything, he'd not need to put them through the pain.

Same idea, He would give you a child and see, if you could teach your child to follow your steps or chose to reject you by breakin' the laws and end up in jail or bein' killed. Try to look at a child and use your imagination to see, if you can realllly UNDERSTAND God for the same reason. You would want your child to be all about you - daddy is his/her world... daughter/son is daddy's world. It's all about LOVE to look after. God looks after us for the same reason, too. But, He is also wantin' us to have a genuine ( intimate ) relationship with Him.

So we should act in the same way a child should for its parents for the god? That presupposes the existence of a god and an absolute moral code set by the god. And parents who treat their children like that by being all-encompressing of what the children sees of the world would appear to others as not wanting their children to grow up and become independent people. This could range from being overprotective to treating the children as extenisons of oneself. A genuine intimate relationship happens when both parties are on equal footing, not with one being all-encompressing on the other one.

The problem with this is that children grow up into adults who can think and act as independently as their parents. They may even end up taking care of their parents when they become old. With the description of the god above, it seems like the relationship does not develop in this way because it is expected that the people always act trusting towards the god, seeing the god as an infallible guide. Some people may not act like this, but it's the ideal expection that has problems because people do grow up. Behaving like children towards god and believing everything that Christianity says is allowing oneself to be controlled by Christianity. It discourages investigations into if Christianity really is true because it causes a bias towards it being absolutely true with the weight of parental authority. That makes one see different opinions as wrong and dangerous without thinking about them expect in terms of how Christianity sees them, as dangerous and wrong, without regard for their merits.

Now, speakin' of bad/sins/hell -- It's life what people make it. Not God's. He gave them their life and they make it what they WANT it to be on their own -- good or bad, their choice. If, they want to chose to be a robber, so be it. If, they want to chose to be a rapist, so be it and all that. That will send them to hell for an eternity if, they don't repent and follow what's right. God didn't teach them to be a robber or rapist. Of course, He knows that they will do it, but God don't stop them unless they call for God and ask for help through prayer and confess their sins through repent. It's not that hard to do.

Since the god knows that people would break his rules, then why did he make the world in that way when others could be harmed by the bad people? Since god knows everything, he'd know if someone would end up asking for help and repenting or not. Since some don't do that, the god would have to know that they'd end up in hell. So why did the god make those people in the first place? Letting them do bad things that would end up having them tortured forever is not very loving. It's actually illegal to let someone do bad things without telling the police. The police would see you as helping the bad person by not reporting it.

I also see the god as a projection people make on reality. It's the ultimate version of people projecting their human qualities onto natural things like fire, lightning and death. They want a ultimate parent because they don't like being alone and without help, especially after their own parents die or after realizing that they won't always be alive. Thinking that good people like one's parents, if they were good, go to heaven is a natural extension because people don't like feelings of loss. The idea of bad people going to hell is also natural in this sort of system because people might not like life being unfair and like thinking that it'll all be taken care of after people die by the parent figure they've projected onto reality.

I want to ask you some questions : Why would Lucifer disobey God in the first place through his evil pride ( greedy, envy at the same time ) ? Why can't he just shut up and let God be God ... and, then we will not suffer like this ( pains, sick, unhappy and everythin' ) ?

Lucifer was actin' like " Me, me, me, me ! It's all about ME ! :" Guess what ? He forgot that God created him, not him that created God to own that Throne, heaven and everythin'. Lucifer was just merely an angel, but beautiful one. And, now Lucifer's name changed and his name is Satan. That name ain't that pretty, because he is ugly in his own darkness. What ugly looks like ? I have no clue, but he wasn't that beautiful anymore like he was. How sad eh ...

This is only a problem if the god and Satan existed. It also assumes that Satan is resposible for all suffering and evil. What about natural things like hurricanes and earthquakes? Study of those things show that they are part of how the Earth functions and show no signs of being caused by Satan. The Earth would actually not be able to function properly without earthquakes because that would mean no plate tectonics. Plate tectonics is important for the balance of carbon in the air, oceans and crust by removing calcium carbonate at subduction zones and releasing it at volcanoes and hot springs. It is also important for mountain building. Without mountain building, erosion would flatten the land enough to have all of it end up under a global ocean. The mountain building counters the erosion, so we still have land.

So, to have the proper balance of carbon between air, water and rock and land to live on, we need plate tectonics on Earth, which has volcanos and earthquakes. If Satan was the cause of those things, then he'd actually be doing a good thing for Earth. Since there's no evidence that there has to be a Satan for those processes to happen, it's simpler to think that there's no Satan doing those. After study of many other things, it can be seen that it's more simple if the god and Satan are myths.